Josh Kennedy Immobility.

[marcmurphy3]

Everyone's been talking about how immobile he is and I was just wondering if this could be a real problem for him? He didn't look to bad from my point of view but I've only seen him play for Carlton on TV and he hasn't got much of the ball. I live in Brisbane so I can't really go and watch him. Those of you who can go to see him play every week would obviously have a deeper insite than me.

 

[Jeremias]

A bit immobile, but I'm confident that that aspect of his game will improve.

We have a real gun CHF on our hands, really excited to see him out on the park round 1 next year and for many years to come.

 

[Effes]

He isn't an athlete like Riewoldt but has good endurance and will be able to present all day, provide a link for players coming out of defence.

Could also play him deep in the forward line and bomb it long with him running in from the side and crashing the pack or taking the mark.

 

[Johnny_3]

Now i've seen him play on TV and from my point of view he doesnt get enough of the ball. I don't understand why the wraps on him are so big, if he is fairly "immobile" and he isn't a big boy like riewolt, brown or hawkins why are the wraps on the boy so big. His skills just must be out of this world.

 

[Effes]

Our players don't seem to 'rate' him yet so don't kick it to him even if he is in a very good position compared to Fev

Fev gets it kicked to him even when it's one on three

Josh has been on his own plenty of times only to see the ball sail over his head.

 

[Silvagnis]

If he turns out to be half as good as Anthony Rocca only with better endurance and straightens us up when we go forward I'll be happy with that. Give the kid a chance to have a full pre-season or two and to grow into his body before you judge him.

Deluca's fairly mobile if that's want you want to see in a player.

 

[XXX KINGS]

Now i've seen him play on TV and from my point of view he doesnt get enough of the ball. I don't understand why the wraps on him are so big, if he is fairly "immobile" and he isn't a big boy like riewolt, brown or hawkins why are the wraps on the boy so big. His skills just must be out of this world.

It's his marking ability, the guy just manages to catch anything! In pack situations he is especially a freak. Hopefully he can get a full pre-season this year.

 

[Bluebear]

Everyone's been talking about how immobile he is and I was just wondering if this could be a real problem for him? He didn't look to bad from my point of view but I've only seen him play for Carlton on TV and he hasn't got much of the ball. I live in Brisbane so I can't really go and watch him. Those of you who can go to see him play every week would obviously have a deeper insite than me.

For a guy that stands 195cm I think he is quite mobile (bit like Sticks - not a leopard, but not a dinosaur either). He seems to get out in front of his man readily on leads (just tends to be ignored by a Fev mad midfield), and gets his hands to the ball loads in packs.

I have seen most of his senior games this year and a few in the Ants, and by far the most pleasing thing about him is that he seems to instinctively run to ALL the right spots for a CHF. If we are stuck down back he leads up to the wing. If we are coming through he pushes into the fwd 50.
There are two main reasons he hasn't got much of the pill this year:
1. His team mates ignore a lot of his leads, kicking to Fev in a 1 on 3.
2. He is an 18 y.o. frame trying to hold marks and body position against much older/stronger opponents.

Barring injury, this kid will bulk up a bit and (dare I say it) be a sticks type CHF.

Seems a bit hesitant with his field kicking at times, but kicks at goal pretty well.
Hope this helps.

 

[Johnny_3]

For a guy that stands 195cm I think he is quite mobile (bit like Sticks - not a leopard, but not a dinosaur either). He seems to get out in front of his man readily on leads (just tends to be ignored by a Fev mad midfield), and gets his hands to the ball loads in packs.

I have seen most of his senior games this year and a few in the Ants, and by far the most pleasing thing about him is that he seems to instinctively run to ALL the right spots for a CHF. If we are stuck down back he leads up to the wing. If we are coming through he pushes into the fwd 50.
There are two main reasons he hasn't got much of the pill this year:
1. His team mates ignore a lot of his leads, kicking to Fev in a 1 on 3.
2. He is an 18 y.o. frame trying to hold marks and body position against much older/stronger opponents.

Barring injury, this kid will bulk up a bit and (dare I say it) be a sticks type CHF.

Seems a bit hesitant with his field kicking at times, but kicks at goal pretty well.
Hope this helps.

yeah doesnt look like player that can kick them on the run and he is a bit lankyy so i guess with a full pre season his smarts will take him all the way.. taking carlton with him

 

[parrot]

Josh really does have a natural instinct for CHf, as has already been mentioned. in terms of his mobility - i'm a bit undecided. At times he looks quite athletic, like a bigger version of Waite. At other times he seems slow to react. He is however pretty huge already and seems to be still growing. Would not be surprised if he hits the 200cm mark. Remember seeing a dominant marking exhibition in a Bullants game. This guy really knows how to take a big grag and exert a presence. Injuries have restricted him a bit this year.

 

[avid blue supporter]

Josh really does have a natural instinct for CHf, as has already been mentioned. in terms of his mobility - i'm a bit undecided. At times he looks quite athletic, like a bigger version of Waite. At other times he seems slow to react. He is however pretty huge already and seems to be still growing. Would not be surprised if he hits the 200cm mark. Remember seeming a dominant marking exhibition in a Bullants game. This guy really knows how to take a big grag and exert a presence. Injuries have restricted him a bit this year.

Everybody relax, the Kid is an absolute gun and was taking everyone bar Paul Bower ( guess who he is lining up with now) apart in the U18 comp. He was a genuine top 5 pick. In 2 years when he has bulked up to around 98 - 100kg and we have a gun midfield, watch him take over a match and also give the opposing team nightmares on trying to matchup on him and Fev.

He can really play the game. loves a goal and will be a great long term player for us

 

[HBF]

^^^ Gee I hope so. From the little I have seen of him this year, he certainly does look like he'll have a pretty good future at the CFC.

 

[as0l0]

you're all out of your mind. when you look at JK you need to see the man he will become. right now he is missing about 20kg's of muscle and when he gets it he will be a MASSIVE unit. Add that to his already freakish skill of marking the ball when he shouldn't and we will have a mark grabbing, goal kicking, monster / enforcer in our forward line.

 

[WTTF]

Kennedy also underwent the same shoulder operation as Murphy at the conclusion of last season...........so he never really had a pre-season either.

Kennedy will be just fine at CHF for years to come..........no need to worry about him.

 

[bluesinsider]

Kennedy also underwent the same shoulder operation as Murphy at the conclusion of last season...........so he never really had a pre-season either.

Kennedy will be just fine at CHF for years to come..........no need to worry about him.

I agree, i dont think he is immobile at all. In fact watching him last season for east fremantle he is incredibly mobile for a bloke who is so big at a young age.
Kennedy started playing footy as a 5 year old in country league around Northhampton WA. He has been playing against grown men from the age of 14.
It will take him sometime to get into the temp of AFL level, but he has natural instincts, superb skills, esp overhead marking and this will see him become a long term AFL player.
And I believe it's up to him whether he turns into a star of the game or not. He has everything needed for it.

 

[Gibbsrightboot]

Give the kid a break.....he has only played a handful of games and there are some people on here saying he is not up to it. What do you expect the kid to do in his first year average 3 goals a game and take 10 marks. It is not going to happen............

KP players take easily up to 2-3 years to mature before you start seeing results........That is the porblem with alot of Carlton Supporters we expect so much from a youg kid ie (walker when he first started and look at him now) The problem could be that we are compairing Kennedy to Murphy. Murphy is a freak and has made the change from 18's to AFL look very easy.
Paitence is a virtue........I believe that he ahs a big future at the club.

 

[TheBlueblood]

hasnt looked to bad in the movement stakes to me.. although to be honest some of the kicking to him has made him look bad on occasion..

Has a pretty handy leap also. gonna be really dangerous in a cple of years

 

[bibi01]

Our players don't seem to 'rate' him yet so don't kick it to him even if he is in a very good position compared to Fev

Fev gets it kicked to him even when it's one on three

Josh has been on his own plenty of times only to see the ball sail over his head.

off the JK topic here but
interesting point there that our players don't 'rate' him and only look for fev

i am sure the game plan is not to kick to fev on every ocassion, but to kick to the best option

this is an example of where players need to take more responsibiliy for the teams performance
if players don't carry out instructions they along with the coaching staff all end up looking silly and stuggle to win games.

 

[Bluebear]

off the JK topic here but
interesting point there that our players don't 'rate' him and only look for fev

i am sure the game plan is not to kick to fev on every ocassion, but to kick to the best option

this is an example of where players need to take more responsibiliy for the teams performance
if players don't carry out instructions they along with the coaching staff all end up looking silly and stuggle to win games.

It was interesting to see when Red went forward against the Pies, he instantly commanded respect and to be kicked to.
With JK bulking up a bit over the summer, he could become a real asset as soon as next year. He just needs to learn how to work with Fev and Waite/Fish/Red?-Kouta.
Also interesting to note in the flogging bythe cats that most of the time they had 2 back on Fev, and 2 back on JK. They obviously rate him. My Question is this - if Fev has got 2-3 on him, where the F#$k is our loose man (or two) and why don;t they push into a dangerous possie.

If Fev drags two away with hm and we start kicking to the one on one with JK, Waite, Fish,e then pretty soon the spare man won't know who to run with.
I Can't wait. But our boys need to learn how to work together (watch the Saints and see how not to crowd your teamate).

 

[SurreyBlue]

Stick the kid in the forward pocket next year and let him develop.
Fevola, Whitnall, Fisher & Waite can do the bulk forward. Hopefully the development of O'hAilpin, Bower and Hartlett will allow Red more time forward next year and thus make us more positive.

I would envisage something like:
Betts Fevola Kennedy
Houlihan Whitnall Fisher/Waite (one wing - one half forward with rotation).

 

[bibi01]

It was interesting to see when Red went forward against the Pies, he instantly commanded respect and to be kicked to.
With JK bulking up a bit over the summer, he could become a real asset as soon as next year. He just needs to learn how to work with Fev and Waite/Fish/Red?-Kouta.
Also interesting to note in the flogging bythe cats that most of the time they had 2 back on Fev, and 2 back on JK. They obviously rate him. My Question is this - if Fev has got 2-3 on him, where the F#$k is our loose man (or two) and why don;t they push into a dangerous possie.

If Fev drags two away with hm and we start kicking to the one on one with JK, Waite, Fish,e then pretty soon the spare man won't know who to run with.
I Can't wait. But our boys need to learn how to work together (watch the Saints and see how not to crowd your teamate).

when fev has 2-3 back on him our other fwd's are not working hard enough to get into the right positions
also we don't kick enough goald from our midfielders which IMO is due to players not being able to run hard enough for four 1/4's

 

[Bluebear]

when fev has 2-3 back on him our other fwd's are not working hard enough to get into the right positions
also we don't kick enough goald from our midfielders which IMO is due to players not being able to run hard enough for four 1/4's

Why would they, when on the occasions they do the ball is bombed into Fev anyway?

 

[bibi01]

Why would they, when on the occasions they do the ball is bombed into Fev anyway?

its the fwd's job to work hard and to get into the right position

thier role is to keep presenting and provide options, regardless if they get the ball or not.
if you keep doing the right things, then sooner or later you will be recognised and rewarded.

just on a side note- waite and fisher kick like they have crooked legs, this may be a contributing factor as to why we go to fev on more ocassion than not (although fev can let you down at times when he tries to stab the ball through the goals)

 

[Go_Blueboyzzz]

To me kennedy is a player who does not possess the beautiful style and action of running as a Nick Reiwldt, though simply his ability to work continually and present, will get him his 10 marks a game, when he is at his heights in years to come. It has been qouted by many carlton players he is one of the fittest at the club, mind you without doing a pre season...These kinds of players are your finals and premiershoio players... guys like JK stand up in big games when the going gets tough, and takes the big marks at the right times. You can see through his endevour he will be one who will love the "jumper".......I CANT WAITTTTTTT to see him in years to come....GO BLUEBOYZZZ

 

[dirk pitt]

Josh really does have a natural instinct for CHf, as has already been mentioned. in terms of his mobility - i'm a bit undecided. At times he looks quite athletic, like a bigger version of Waite. At other times he seems slow to react. He is however pretty huge already and seems to be still growing. Would not be surprised if he hits the 200cm mark. Remember seeing a dominant marking exhibition in a Bullants game. This guy really knows how to take a big grag and exert a presence. Injuries have restricted him a bit this year.

A couple of posters connected with the club have posted on other sites in recent weeks that Josh is now 198cm. If he keeps growing he could well end up a ruckman instead of a CHF, as that is where he played a lot of his junior footy.

For a kid who had a massively interrupted pre-season I was happy with how he started this season. Runs to the right places, takes big marks, needs to work on his goal kicking a little bit but other than that he did well for a first year tall. Will only get better.