Josh Kennedy vs Patrick Ryder

[KING-JAMES]

This came up in another thread. 2 high picks in the 2005 draft. Josh Kennedy pick 4 and Patrick Ryder pick 7. Both Key Position players.

Who would you take

 

[goal sneak]

I would probably take Ryder but Kennedy is going to be a gun too.

Good poll

 

[CrazyQ]

ATM? Ryder fairly easily.

Kennedy is a terrible kick and seems very slow.

Good mark though.

 

[Silvagnis]

Why aren't Beau Dowler and Mitch Clarke included in this thread?

We haven't loss to Essendon with Kennedy in the side so the choice is obvious.

 

[Souup]

Paddy Ryder

Has more potential and has already shown more then Kennedy

 

[CrazyQ]

Why aren't Beau Dowler and Mitch Clarke included in this thread?

We haven't loss to Essendon with Kennedy in the side so the choice is obvious.

Beau's coming back from a severe car crash injury.

Clarke is injured also.

 

[jodo27]

Paddy has more upside than Josh Kennedy. More versatile, quicker and has a huge leap. Kennedy does have good hands and may turn into a more than useful player.

 

[KING-JAMES]

Why aren't Beau Dowler and Mitch Clarke included in this thread?

We haven't loss to Essendon with Kennedy in the side so the choice is obvious.

Why should they be? They are not involved in the question....

 

[legitimatic]

I knew this was started by an Essendon supporter, it's just so one-sided, Paddy by a mile.

 

[KING-JAMES]

I knew this was started by an Essendon
supporter, it's just so one-sided, Paddy by a mile.

Haha a carlton supporter gave me the idea, after calling Kennedy better.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Beau Dowler doing full training by last years end was a pretty good effort considering his car crash
have to go with ryder,

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I knew this was started by an Essendon supporter, it's just so one-sided, Paddy by a mile.

Still a legitimate poll though, one sided or not. 2 similar aged KP players

 

[KING-JAMES]

Beau Dowler doing full training by last years end was a pretty good effort considering his car crash
have to go with ryder,

Yeh, i didnt think it would be fair to put in Dowler or Clarke as they have been on the sidelines. And i wanted to see the results from just Ryder and Kennedy. If i put in Dowler, Clarke then i would miss out on Neutral votes as the supporters of there teams would be voting them

 

[Silvagnis]

Haha a carlton supporter gave me the idea, after calling Kennedy better.

So you need a Bigfooty poll to show you have a better player?

Tools such Djibril Cisse is getting stuck into him on the Carlton board as well and stating he wants Pendlebury. You need Ryder to play third tall defender/relief ruckman and we need Kennedy to play CHF/relief ruckman in the forwardline.

Both clubs should be happy with what they have.

Kennedy is the victim of a forwardline based around Fevola and they hardly ever kick the ball to him when he's one out.

It's always three against one like the Geelong game or a thrashing in bad conditions like the WCE-Blues and Pies-Power games where no forwards had an impact.

Apples and oranges.

 

[Topdock65]

Both going to very good players, Believe Kennedy will take longer as Ryder has found his niche now....

Kennedy in the end though in my view will be better...

Both highly regarded in the West ...

 

[The Grover]

At this stage Ryder, they are playing different positions though.

I don't know that Ryder could do much better than Kennedy if he was playing with Carlton in that position.

Its just not working for JK at the moment, he'll get there.

 

[KING-JAMES]

So you need a Bigfooty poll to show you have a better player?

Tools such Djibril Cisse is getting stuck into him on the Carlton board as well and stating he wants Pendlebury. You need Ryder to play third tall defender/relief ruckman and we need Kennedy to play CHF/relief ruckman in the forwardline.

Both clubs should be happy with what they have.

Kennedy is the victim of a forwardline based around Fevola and they hardly ever kick the ball to him when he's one out.

It's always three against one like the Geelong game or a thrashing in bad conditions like the WCE-Blues and Pies-Power games where no forwards had an impact.

Apples and oranges.

No i dont exactly rely on bigfooty polls to base my opinion, i just wanted to see what others thought

 

[mbosca]

This is a bit unfair to Patrick Ryder to be against Kennedy. Kennedy struggles to take marks and has a habit of getting around 3 possies. Next the poll will be Jordan Russel v Angus Monfries

 

[Silvagnis]

At this stage Ryder, they are playing different positions though.

I don't know that Ryder could do much better than Kennedy if he was playing with Carlton in that position.

Its just not working for JK at the moment, he'll get there.

Correct.

Ryder needs to improve his decision making and Kennedy is harder at the contest but slower off the mark. It's easier playing in defence with the ball coming straight at you than at CHF with another three talls in the one forwardline.

Brilliant set up Denis!

 

[Silvagnis]

This is a bit unfair to Patrick Ryder to be against Kennedy. Kennedy struggles to take marks and has a habit of getting around 3 possies. Next the poll will be Jordan Russel v Angus Monfries

JK is a terrible mark - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGV7aNswGvI.

Did Monfries even play against Carlton?

I remember Russell spoiling Hird in the last second.

 

[mbosca]

funny stat. Ryder averages the same amount of goals as Kennedy playing at CHB.

 

[notorious_big]

This is a bit unfair to Patrick Ryder to be against Kennedy. Kennedy struggles to take marks and has a habit of getting around 3 possies. Next the poll will be Jordan Russel v Angus Monfries

Yeah thats true, Russel would smash him. Pat Ryder is a shit footy player and will average 5 "VERY EXCITING" possies a game like his friends the lovetts. Kennedy has barely played a game and its too early to judge/ u have no clue/ any friends?

 

[Merv]

Yeah thats true, Russel would smash him. Pat Ryder is a shit footy player and will average 5 "VERY EXCITING" possies a game like his friends the lovetts. Kennedy has barely played a game and its too early to judge/ u have no clue/ any friends?

Get a clue yourself clown.

Kennedy has played about the same amount of games, yet is no where near Ryder in talent atm.

 

[Silvagnis]

funny stat. Ryder averages the same amount of goals as Kennedy playing at CHB.

Funnier stat, Kennedy is on the ground for 59 minutes if he's lucky and then he's ignored because we constantly kick it to the best forward in the competition.

Ryder isn't a better talent than Kennedy despite his form so try again.

Kennedy isn't soft.

 

[blitzer]

Funnier stat, Kennedy is on the ground for 59 minutes if he's lucky and then he's ignored because we constantly kick it to the best forward in the competition.

Ryder isn't a better talent than Kennedy despite his form so try again.

Kennedy isn't soft.

Ryder wouldn't have spent anywhere near 59 minutes up forward per game, maybe like 1/5th of that on average over all his matches this season perhaps so your point is completely invalid (like pretty much everything you say about essendon). Ryder is so far ahead of Kennedy at the moment that this comparison is just insulting to Ryder, he's in a completely different league. Kennedy is barely above vfl level right now so basically carlton are just gonna pray that somehow in the long term he ends up better, though it won't happen.