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I see Josh Krueger is on the crows injury list again and his return from injury has been labeled indefinate. Unfortunately I think time is running out for Krueger and he will never wear the crows colours
 
Crowman32 said:
I see Josh Krueger is on the crows injury list again and his return from injury has been labeled indefinate. Unfortunately I think time is running out for Krueger and he will never wear the crows colours

Sounds like a fair assesment. It is unfortunate though.
 
My memory is hazy, perhaps Stiffy or one of our Glenelg followers will know, but did Freddy have a history of chronic injury before he was drafted?
 
The good news however Josh Kruger now has the most threads on the Crows board devoted to him ever.

Put Kruger and Schuback on the long term injury list, upgrade Griffen and Andrews than play a team including Clarke, Hudson, Biglands, Meesen, Maric, Griffen and Andrews!
 

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Crowman32 said:
I see Josh Krueger is on the crows injury list again and his return from injury has been labeled indefinate. Unfortunately I think time is running out for Krueger and he will never wear the crows colours
If Freddy can't consistently get on the park for Glenelg & we see some of our fringe "backbone" players (eg. Skippy, Shirley, Doughty, etc) continue to perform OK, he will struggle to stay on the list. Also, the rumour was that he has ********ed off the Crows hierachy & that he has been written off by the Crows any way.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
If Freddy can't consistently get on the park for Glenelg & we see some of our fringe "backbone" players (eg. Skippy, Shirley, Doughty, etc) continue to perform OK, he will struggle to stay on the list. Also, the rumour was that he has ********ed off the Crows hierachy & that he has been written off by the Crows any way.

Has he been training with the crows????
 
He was sitting behind Lleyton Hewitt at the Showdown with some other Crows players.
 
Crowman32 said:
I see Josh Krueger is on the crows injury list again and his return from injury has been labeled indefinate. Unfortunately I think time is running out for Krueger and he will never wear the crows colours

I think we are going to be in need of talls at the end of year. M Stevens and Clarke should retire and S Stevens, Smithy should be delisted. Bock and Krugs
are iff at best.

FFS we have shocking luck recruiting quality talls.
 
I've been to a couple of Glenelg games this year & was very excited at the prospect of watching Freddy play but to be honest he is very very Ordinary!

He is a liability and should be delisted at the years end IMO.
 
jo172 said:
The good news however Josh Kruger now has the most threads on the Crows board devoted to him ever.

Put Kruger and Schuback on the long term injury list, upgrade Griffen and Andrews than play a team including Clarke, Hudson, Biglands, Meesen, Maric, Griffen and Andrews!


Why didnt you include Smith on that list :eek: . Just as relevant.
 
Markthirtytwo said:
Why didnt you include Smith on that list :eek: . Just as relevant.

Ummm, the binding factor is that all of the aforementioned players were part of our plethora of ruckmen. I'm not quite sure what Smith is but i dont think it's a ruckman!!
 
a tall, strong marking forward is a MUST... we need a bloke who can take pack marks, you arent going to win every crumb and the midfielders would be much more confident kicking to a huge lad in the square who can take the big grab

another quality ruckman who tries hard all day is also needed, in the mould of Huddo, his second efforts are great and he can take big marks, something Clarke and Biglands cant do (must admit Biglands has picked up a bit, that effort to dive and knock the ball back into a swan foot to win the free which skippy checksided was fantastic)
 
dyertribe said:
My memory is hazy, perhaps Stiffy or one of our Glenelg followers will know, but did Freddy have a history of chronic injury before he was drafted?
Freddy's history is a very interesting one.

He played footy with the bays throughout his junior career. However, his family went through a tragedy where his brother passed away. At the time Kruegers quit footy for a while. A year later he started playing again but only with the amateurs (Flagstaff Hill if I recall corectly). He played the year out with them, just playing with his mates and having fun. The following year he was back on Glenelg's list and he managed to play 8 senior games. He did have a "history" with injuries that year but they were soft tissue injuries. Basically he got all this niggly soft tissue injury because his fitness base wasn't quite up to it. He still showed some promise in the games he played. His attack on the ball and marking power were his major attributes.

In all honesty I don't think Krueger's previous injury history has much to do with his current situation. Most of his current injuries are compact injuries. By all reports he was flying during the pre-season until he took a hanger and landed badly on his back. He has never been the same since. IMHO, his back is basically screwed and his style of play won't allow him to have a football career. He is a crash and bang type player but his dodgy back won't allow him to play footy. I think he is in a very similar situation Bowen Lockwood was in a few years ago :(
 

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RoosterLad said:
a tall, strong marking forward is a MUST... we need a bloke who can take pack marks, you arent going to win every crumb and the midfielders would be much more confident kicking to a huge lad in the square who can take the big grab

another quality ruckman who tries hard all day is also needed, in the mould of Huddo, his second efforts are great and he can take big marks, something Clarke and Biglands cant do (must admit Biglands has picked up a bit, that effort to dive and knock the ball back into a swan foot to win the free which skippy checksided was fantastic)
Agree with your point regarding key forward. You can never have too many of those and if you have a chance to pick up a quality one then you always pick them over midfielders.

I do disagree with the ruckman. While I would like us to pick on up down the track, I don't think we should pick one up this year unless of course he is a steal with our pick. Assuming Clarke retires, we still have Hudson, Biglands, Meesen and Maric which is 4 ruckman. I woudl rookie list one to develop but not go out really looking for one.

I think midfielders are a must this year and you are always in the market for quality talls.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
Agree with your point regarding key forward. You can never have too many of those and if you have a chance to pick up a quality one then you always pick them over midfielders.

I do disagree with the ruckman. While I would like us to pick on up down the track, I don't think we should pick one up this year unless of course he is a steal with our pick. Assuming Clarke retires, we still have Hudson, Biglands, Meesen and Maric which is 4 ruckman. I woudl rookie list one to develop but not go out really looking for one.

I think midfielders are a must this year and you are always in the market for quality talls.
I agree Stiffy. Our ruck stocks, even with Clarke's retirement are fine. If Andrews is delisted, then I would consider rookie listing another though. Key position players - particularly forwards, along with midfielders should be our priority.
 
Josh has not had his last chance yet.
And Re; rookie rucks, I don’t think the club will chase another ruckman in this years draft('s}. Unless biglands is traded.
I also don’t think Kruger would ever cut it at Rucking a full AFL game, He was earmarked as a strong leading forward (pinch hitter ruck) when we recruited him, and it was really only through desperation that we started to look at him as a 1st option ruck.

DT, yes he had/has a long history of back and associated problems (hammys etc). But those growing problems should have gone away by now.
 
jc67 said:
Josh has not had his last chance yet.
And Re; rookie rucks, I don’t think the club will chase another ruckman in this years draft('s}. Unless biglands is traded.
I also don’t think Kruger would ever cut it at Rucking a full AFL game, He was earmarked as a strong leading forward (pinch hitter ruck) when we recruited him, and it was really only through desperation that we started to look at him as a 1st option ruck.

DT, yes he had/has a long history of back and associated problems (hammys etc). But those growing problems should have gone away by now.
HIs back problem have nothing to do with growing. He took a hanger of Hentschel and landed on his back in one of the training session. He suffered a badly fructured disk that hasn't really healed properly.

I am afraid his back will hold him back and as a result of his dodgy back he looks the shadow of a player he was prior to the injury.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
HIs back problem have nothing to do with growing. He took a hanger of Hentschel and landed on his back in one of the training session. He suffered a badly fructured disk that hasn't really healed properly.

I am afraid his back will hold him back and as a result of his dodgy back he looks the shadow of a player he was prior to the injury.

he had back (growing issues) injuries prior to his back injury.
But he is not out of chances just yet.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
HIs back problem have nothing to do with growing. He took a hanger of Hentschel and landed on his back in one of the training session. He suffered a badly fructured disk that hasn't really healed properly.

I am afraid his back will hold him back and as a result of his dodgy back he looks the shadow of a player he was prior to the injury.

I don't want to be negative, but there's a huge chance that Krueger is permanently stuffed from that back injury. It's 2 years in a row now with back injury, which as you previously said, puts him in the Bowen Lockwood category.

Backs just don't usually get better.

I feel for him, but I also fear for him. He'll probably be ultimately delisted without ever having a chance to show what he can really do. :(
 

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i think there would be others before kruger to go, although its true that some prior to the year that were almost certainties for the axe like skipworth, shirely or begley have a very good opportunity to change their fate. At this stage Massie is a certainty with ladhams not far behind. Ladhams may be the only one who can save himself in the second half of the yr.
 
outback jack said:
i think there would be others before kruger to go, although its true that some prior to the year that were almost certainties for the axe like skipworth, shirely or begley have a very good opportunity to change their fate. At this stage Massie is a certainty with ladhams not far behind. Ladhams may be the only one who can save himself in the second half of the yr.

I think you could add Smith and Schuback to that certainty list at this stage, jack. There will be others as the season evolves.

Ladhams is unique in that he has shown he has the ability and a fair bit of it. Somewhere along the way he lost his dedication.

I agree with you that he could save himself in the 2nd half of the year IF he discovers that passion to perform.
 
macca23 said:
I think you could add Smith and Schuback to that certainty list at this stage, jack. There will be others as the season evolves.

Ladhams is unique in that he has shown he has the ability and a fair bit of it. Somewhere along the way he lost his dedication.

I agree with you that he could save himself in the 2nd half of the year IF he discovers that passion to perform.

Unless there is a miracle, S Stevens, Smith, Ladhams and Massie are certainities to be delisted. You could throw a blanket over Bode, Begley, Bock, Skippy, Krugs and Shuie for the final few spots.

BTW When Smith was elevated from the rookie list would he have been given a 2 year contract?
 
Scott Stevens is far from being a certainty to be delisted at the end of the year. I think there would be at least half a dozen players that would be cut before him, especially considering that this year's draft is apparently good for midfielders but not so good for KPPs.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
Scott Stevens is far from being a certainty to be delisted at the end of the year. I think there would be at least half a dozen players that would be cut before him, especially considering that this year's draft is apparently good for midfielders but not so good for KPPs.
Agree.. he's shown some good form in the Sanfl and we should keep him for more depth.
 
jc67 and stifler, thanks for the info regarding his history with injuries.

Further reinforces Dave's view we could have got him with a much later pick, or even via the preseason draft.
 

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