Josh Simpson

[Reginald Perrin]

Christ almighty, what does anyone know of being a man when you're 20?

Not much maybe, but at 20 I was married with a son and all the financial obligations that come with that. I felt I was manning up until I was thrown out of a pub for not having ID.

 

[scon]

I worked with Kiwi once who'd survived being in a car which had been hit by a train.
His yarn was "You're not a man 'til you've been hit by the Hokitika train and lived to talk about it!"
Definitions and the requisite rites of passage vary a bit too much to get prescriptive.

 

[Mockcockpit]

Hadn't you blokes ever heard of frangers?

 

[slicedndiced]

Seriously, I honestly thought that we had moved on from the initial, "Josh just needs to harden up" opinion.

Apparently not.

fair reflection of society though.

We have a long way to go.

 

[mightymouse75]

No lollypops for me thanks, sorry about your wife.
Man what an opportunity, has got a chance to make set him and his kids up for the future doing what he loves doing.
Waste it and he wont be getting many more opportunities.
Just ask Walters.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

If anybody read an earlier post of mine, I've just re-read it and spotted what you might say is a fundamental mistake which I have now corrected.

What the politics are between Nyungah and Wadjella Yamatji I couldn't tell you...

Man oh man.

 

[slicedndiced]

No lollypops for me thanks, sorry about your wife.
Man what an opportunity, has got a chance to make set him and his kids up for the future doing what he loves doing.
Waste it and he wont be getting many more opportunities.
Just ask Walters.

With all due respect, you reaaaaaally don't understand.

You are only capable of looking at this through white, capitalist society eyes.

That gives you a warped perspective and zero genuine understanding.

If anybody read an earlier post of mine, I've just re-read it and spotted what you might say is a fundamental mistake which I have now corrected.


Man oh man.

LOL, missed that!!

Nyoongah's and Yamatji's aren't too friendly, but better than their relationships with Wongi's.

 

[Nickos66]

No lollypops for me thanks, sorry about your wife.
Man what an opportunity, has got a chance to make set him and his kids up for the future doing what he loves doing.
Waste it and he wont be getting many more opportunities.
Just ask Walters.

It's much easier to see someone else's opportunity from third person perspective. Not so much their plight.. There really isn't an apt analogy for what he'd be going through, he'd have cultural obligations, he'd have people mooching off of him that are close to him, he'd have guilt trips laid upon him from every angle. And that's just from his family.. And he'd have his first westernised official professional employment (of all associated concepts are completely foreign to him) with elite expectations of adherence.
I'd wager it'd be pretty hard to 'man up' and do what's best when you're unsure of what "best" is - being pulled in all directions as he is.

I still can't really fathom how people can proclaim to have the simple answers for him - in a lot of cases under 10 words, when there simply aren't any simple answers.

 

[scon]

There's movement on the stations:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-05/chinese-business-buying-into-pastoral-stations/5503086

 

[slicedndiced]

There's movement on the stations:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-05/chinese-business-buying-into-pastoral-stations/5503086

Yeah, just watched that on Lateline.

The Watson family on Mt Anderson are quality people, and Wayne Bergmann will be a future National indigenous leader.

 

[Clems Knee]

Bushie, I'm pretty ignorant about the Yamatji people and their record playing Aussie Rules. Are the only players on current AFL lists Simpson and Ryder? Are there any past players who could mentor Simpson? Or doesn't it work like that? Is it only Yalgoo people who know him well who can exert an influence?
Thanks for this thread. I've learnt more from you and Reg and others than I thought I would.

 

[scon]

Yeah watched same.Good to hear especially about Bergmann, I was unsure about him after the Woodside Kimberley Council negotiations.

 

[slicedndiced]

Bushie, I'm pretty ignorant about the Yamatji people and their record playing Aussie Rules. Are the only players on current AFL lists Simpson and Ryder? Are there any past players who could mentor Simpson? Or doesn't it work like that? Is it only Yalgoo people who know him well who can exert an influence?
Thanks for this thread. I've learnt more from you and Reg and others than I thought I would.

Thanks mate, but plenty of others have given great input to this.

I'll have to think about that, but I'm pretty sure that you're right about current players, however I've got a friggen tooth abscess at present and the brain aint working too well..

This gets really complicated with traditional people because you have to consider skin groups, marriages and a whole myriad of other issues. It doesn't necessarily have to be a Yalgoo person at all as Yamatji country is massive, it is more of a connection thing with him.

However, there are other people who can transcend that, due to certain things that I can't talk about, who can talk with and mentor him.

Just quietly a few of us are trying to organise this, with the clubs ok.

 

[slicedndiced]

Yeah watched same.Good to hear especially about Bergmann, I was unsure about him after the Woodside Kimberley Council negotiations.

He played hard ball in a difficult situation. He's also a consumate politician with high ambition and knew that he was on the big stage.

Very, very smart cookie imo.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Bushie, I'm pretty ignorant about the Yamatji people and their record playing Aussie Rules. Are the only players on current AFL lists Simpson and Ryder? Are there any past players who could mentor Simpson? Or doesn't it work like that? Is it only Yalgoo people who know him well who can exert an influence?
Thanks for this thread. I've learnt more from you and Reg and others than I thought I would.

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/indigenous-map/

 

[slicedndiced]

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/indigenous-map/

Great get mate. I was unaware of that.

Murray Newman eh?

Can I be forgiven for forgetting him?

 

[Nickos66]

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/indigenous-map/

I've seen this before - a few years ago, pretty impressive I thought.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Great get mate. I was unaware of that.

Can I be forgiven for forgetting him?

Who? I wasn't really going to mention him in this thread.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

I've seen this before - a few years ago, pretty impressive I thought.

Expansion to include past players would be great.

 

[scon]

He played hard ball in a difficult situation. He's also a consumate politician with high ambition and knew that he was on the big stage.

Very, very smart cookie imo.

'Politician....ambition' that's enough to have my eyes start squinting but with all of these type of enterprises hard-arsed sharp negotiators are the order of the day.
I often used to think how long the Japanese partied for after completing negotiations with Charlie and Dicky Court.
Party is probably still going.

 

[slicedndiced]

'Politician....ambition' that's enough to have my eyes start squinting but with all of these type of enterprises hard-arsed sharp negotiators are the order of the day.
I often used to think how long the Japanese partied for after completing negotiations with Charlie and Dicky Court.
Party is probably still going.

Indeed.

Imagine if Charlie put aside 1% of those deals and ongoing royalties for future indigenous programs of integration, employment, health and education?

We wouldn't be in this f***en mess today.

Imagine if he didn't sell the whole state down the drain instead of staring them down?

Charlie Court. Don't start me.

Yet he is lauded as a champion of the people.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Indeed.

Imagine if Charlie put aside 1% of those deals and ongoing royalties for future indigenous programs of integration, employment, health and education?

We wouldn't be in this f***en mess today.

Imagine if he didn't sell the whole state down the drain instead of staring them down?

Charlie Court. Don't start me.

Yet he is lauded as a champion of the people.

Newly married and financially fragile, I lived in a unit on Stirling highway and had to walk to the Nedlands laundromat regularly because we couldn't afford a washing machine (yeah, I know, boo hoo). On the way there, I passed Charlie's place and always appreciated the fact that he had built a full height wall around his house just so he wasn't rubbing his money in my face. Such a thoughtful fellow.

 

[Keys]

I worked for the accounting firm Charlie set up when i left school.

Come at me

 

[PurpleGreenRed]

A lot of this thread is supposition...

What springs to my mind is the not-so politically correct phrase of "Don't judge a man till you've walked a mile in his moccasins."

I feel not many on this board know for sure what this bloke is going through (although I'm sure some more than others). I just hope he gets through it. Ideally in purple.

Can say I've learned a bit though

 

[Moo]

Don't judge anyone until you have walked a mile in their shoes..... that way you can judge them while you're a mile away with their shoes!