Judd behind schedule

[parrot]

'Happy Hawk',You seem to have an unhealthy amount of time on our board.What do you want?

A little attention seeking I suspect. There's been a few Hawthorn supporters around here recently having little "..no one cares about what I say..." personal crises. lol. Hawthorn supporters and their Club just aren't relevant, and nothings going to change that reality. They're good for a laugh though. Didn't know Hawks supporters even existed on BF until a few weeks ago. If only more of them turned up to their games, they wouldn't have to part-relocate to Tassie or merge with the Dees. Too bad.

 

[SS_Fury]

...............and they only have themselves to blame

 

[Bee]

Who actually expected Judd to be fit for the first game anyhow?
I've always believed that he probably would not make his Blue debut until at least three or four weeks into the season.
A bit confused as to how he can be behind when there was never a time frame given for his return.

 

[parrot]

On the topic of this thread, if he is or isn't on schedule it doesn't really matter. 2008 is a development year, and we'll only be having a serious impact on the top-8 in 2009. I suspect this thread will have a Pied Piper effect for the bitter talent envious anti-Carlton usuals no doubt. lol.

 

[Scruff83]

All we can really do is wait n see. I don't think anyone really knows for sure at this stage. Since the end of last year the club has been saying he's ahead of schedule, i read somewhere yesterday that he'd be considered for the third week of the nab cup and now he's saying it could be round 1 or it could be round 12.

 

[Willow_2000]

Its sort of better that hes behind schedule looking at it long term. You would rather him and the coaching staff take their time to work him back into the game rather than behind ahead of schedule and sort of rushing him back.

 

[The Real Deal]

I was merely going by what Judd himself said around the time we signed him up- he said he'd be on full duties after Christmas. I guess I was just looking forward to seeing him run out for the Blues in Round 1 but if it doesn't happen then so be it. We can't really rely one player anyway...

 

[fogdog]

LOL that looks like it was written by a 5yr old Bummerblitz is a website frequented by 10 - 15 yr old pimply faced effeminate bummers supporters .

Why turn it into a personal attack? I was merely posting news and facts and yet your insecurities turned into something personal. Believe it or not, not all supporters of other teams are trolls just because they post on another teams board. Just thought Carlton supporters would be the most interested in the news. Them and West Coast that is..

There is now another article on this:

Judd can teach, but can he play?
02 February 2008 Herald Sun
Damian Barrett

CHRIS Judd and losing.

The name just doesn't go with the word. But it soon may.

Judd, the constant winner, whose spectacular journey through football has coincided with the decline of the once-mighty club he decided to join last October, is not sure how he will cope with losing.

Of course, he will do everything in his power to ensure losses are not regular, but he knows Carlton's journey towards the kind of success that West Coast enjoyed is a long way off.

"It will be difficult, no doubt," Judd told the Herald Sun this week in Johannesburg, South Africa.

"But I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about it, either. The important thing for me is to get just as frustrated here as I would if I was playing at the Eagles, if you know what I mean.

"Once you lose that real disappointment after losing, then you almost become a bit of a passive victim.

"It is important I am like that and I assume that is the way I'll feel if we go down that field. But hopefully we are not going to have a season like we've had with three or four wins."

Speaking with Judd this week as well as watching him train and mingle with his Carlton teammates at a training camp in South Africa, it is clear he is in no rush.

Despite the problems that are yet to be eliminated with his troublesome groin, he exudes a man totally relaxed with his progress.

There is no rush, he says, to fast-track friendships with Carlton players, because he wants them to evolve the way relationships are meant to.

No rush, even, to get back out on the track and take part in main training drills with the senior squad.

Even at a session at Centurion Park in Pretoria he was confined, as he has been almost since his first day with Carlton, to running drills.

Given the NAB Cup starts in two weeks, there is not a lot of time remaining if he wants to play Round 1 of the premiership season.

Judd was cryptic when asked if his coach Brett Ratten was accurate in predicting he would return to competition by the third week of the NAB Cup.

"The honest answer is I'll return when I'm ready," he said.

Herald Sun: So when do think that might be?

"If it's not ready until the split round, say Round 12 in the middle of the season, then that's when it will be. I guess I've gone away from trying to pretend I can somehow control when my body is going to be fixed, because I have got no idea.

"Seriously, I've got no choice. It's either that or you play hurt and you end up finishing your career. That's where I am at. It has probably progressed slower than I would have liked, but sooner or later it will be fixed, and the important thing then is that it stays right."

HS: Are you saying it is possible you may not be ready for the start of the season?

"It's possible, but it's unlikely, but it's definitely possible. It's possible I will never play again, but if I was a betting man, I wouldn't be putting money on that. I'm hoping to play Round 1, it would be nice to get a hitout one or two games before then, but I won't be making the same mistake as I did last year."

The mistake was being in a situation where he played despite being seriously hindered by his injury.

Despite the frustration of not being able to train, Judd has impressed every person one speaks with at Carlton.

None more so than Nick Stevens, who will share on-ball roles with Judd.

"It's clearly been hard for him because he hasn't been able to train with us, but even with that, the boys can not believe how professional he has been in doing all the extras," Stevens said.

"And everyone says this - you find yourself looking at him a bit because he just looks so good at whatever he does. Even when he's doing the boring things, like running laps, he somehow looks good, just gliding around the boundary."

Judd has enjoyed the week in South Africa.

He's roomed with Stevens, Matthew Kreuzer and Ryan Jackson. He's tried to have one-on-ones with every teammate. He's gone out of his way not to settle into a clique.

"We're a young group, and it is good for all of us to broaden the horizons, experience something different," he said.

"And trips like these is where you build relationships and get to know people. Being new at a club, doing this has been good, I've got to spend time with people I may not normally spend time with, and I've been able to get to know everyone a bit better."

The last time Judd was new to a football club he was an 18-year-old forced to head to the other side of Australia.

This time, he's a worldly man who has maintained schoolboy and teenage friendships.

"Going to West Coast, I was mates with the guys I played footy with or I sat at home by myself," he said.

"Playing for a footy club in your home state, there is not the same sense of urgency. You've got people outside the footy club to catch up with in the meantime, and the relationships with players at the club will come with time."

Carlton believes it won the battle for Judd over Collingwood because it was able to sell an on and off-field package that appealed to a man who has never sought the huge profile he has nevertheless created.

The Blues, with significant assistance from chairman Dick Pratt, were able to convince Judd that Optus Oval was a better place to park than the Lexus Centre, and he admits to being drawn by starting a grand project from the lowest level.

"It seems like we have had a lot of press and there is a bit of excitement in the air, but I think realistically we are probably not quite as far down the track as some people suggest," Judd said.

"It is going to take a couple of years before we start playing good footy. But, it's going to be exciting and it's going to be exciting being with a group that is going to improve as dramatically as this group does, over that two to three year process."

Judd is excited by the untapped potential of his teammates, and gives special mention to ruckman Shaun Hampson.

He speaks with genuine excitement about working with Stevens, and youngsters Marc Murphy and Bryce Gibbs in the Blues' midfield.

He reckons Kreuzer is doing everything right.

Asked if he was familiar with the Carlton arrogance of the past, the quality that Ratten is desperate to reinstate, Judd said no to the specifics but yes to the generalities.

"When I was young I didn't take notice of what they said about Carlton, I just watched the games," he said.

"Arrogance and confidence are similar things. Generally, people are confident or even arrogant because they have a bit of a reason to be.

"This footy club hasn't had a reason to be confident in the past years because it hasn't won enough footy, so if you start winning enough games then that confidence, slash arrogance, is what happens."

Despite all the hype, or perhaps because of it, Judd wants to make one thing very clear on the eve of the 2008 season.

"It needs to be remembered I haven't done anything at all for this footy club," he said.

 

[mediumsizered]

It's the exact opposite mate. I tried to start a discussion and got abused by you fools. And I warned you yesterday this sort of attitude comes back to bite people. So suck it up. HA HA.

Cultural problems, my ass. Next week we could read headlines about any player in the league. Wake up

Yesterday's responses to my thread simply showed what losers a lot (not all) of you guys are.

And I'm glad today's timely news has come out. Stick it.

Sounds to me like someone might need a name change. Maybe RedCardHawk would be more appropriate.

 

[mediumsizered]

Why turn it into a personal attack? I was merely posting news and facts and yet your insecurities turned into something personal. Believe it or not, not all supporters of other teams are trolls just because they post on another teams board. Just thought Carlton supporters would be the most interested in the news. Them and West Coast that is..

There is now another article on this:

The Herald Sun article contains direct quotes from Judd. The other rubbish you posted is not qualified by any direct quotes from anyone. In other words it is either an opinion piece or a piece of fiction. It does not belong on our board.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Sounds to me like someone might need a name change. Maybe RedCardHawk would be more appropriate.

Sorry, the sensitive mod came home hot and bothered, logged in, saw reported posts and reacted accordingly. Having read back through the two relevant threads, I am not entirely uncomfortable with quelling the uprising!

 

[Bluegene]

The Herald Sun article contains direct quotes from Judd. The other rubbish you posted is not qualified by any direct quotes from anyone. In other words it is either an opinion piece or a piece of fiction. It does not belong on our board.

Not to mention he has no source,, How does Judd go from 90% to not going to be ready for another 4-5 months it's a joke of a trolled article

 

[Effes]

I think this is the other article

 

[Willow_2000]

I think this is the other article

With no link to the real source and being on a bombers website, That just screams bulls***.
Maybe they are an extremely jealous club that they had no talent to give WC to get Judd

 

[Bluegene]

Apparently Swann was on S.E.N this morning and he said it was horse shit... probably not in those words

 

[thylacine60]

Sorry fellas. This other source seems to have good credibility. As one of the Essendon posters claimed:













































Andy posted it!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHO THE **** IS THAT CLOWN? hahahahahahahahaha - Andy! It just must be true, okay? Andy posted it! What a ****ing classic!

This is Essendon's idea of pre-season planning. Someone please stop them, it hurts too much!!

 

[fogdog]

Seriously, not posting the news to stir you. I will happily eat humble pie if it turns out wrong, but can you lend me one of your spoons to eat it with? It looks like you're gathering a few lately...

 

[Silvagnis]

Seriously, not posting the news to stir you. I will happily eat humble pie if it turns out wrong, but can you lend me one of your spoons to eat it with? It looks like you're gathering a few lately...

We've won 22 points from 12 games since 2002, so how poor are Essendon?

Your club is this poor since you couldn't even beat us in 2006 and finished equal last on points.

Percentage means nothing.

Team P W D L GF-BF For GA-BA Agn % Pts 
Essendon 22 3 1 18 291-275 2021 367-267 2469 81.9 14 
Carlton 22 3 1 18 257-249 1791 354-291 2415 74.2 14

 

[thylacine60]

Seriously, not posting the news to stir you. I will happily eat humble pie if it turns out wrong, but can you lend me one of your spoons to eat it with? It looks like you're gathering a few lately...

I see. So you are posting "the news" merely to inform us. Can I ask why? Is it

a) because you just respect us so much
b) because you don't want us to be surprised when "the news" actually eventuates
c) because you desperately feel for the club and its supporters ie. what rotten luck
d) because you are a shit-stirring *******

Mate, any moron will tell you that hairy-chinned, swarthy women and pink-faced, chubby men make a living by "predicting" the future. Such amazing future snooping classics include:

Britney will have a stormy relationship
Kylie will tour toward the end of the year - or possibly next year - or possibly not at all
Status Quo will tour Australia
As will Elton John
Something to do with something else will happen to someone important

News? Suggesting Juddy (sorry, OUR Juddy) may have complications stemming from his op somewhere down the track rates among such star-gazing tripe.

So with the greatest respect born of a hundred years of fierce and honourable conflict between our 2 mighty clubs

 

[thylacine60]

Duck me dead! Everybody swear evasions! Geez Louise!

 

[SM10]

Well you Might also want to have a read of this article in The BS Times

If a paper was called the BS Times then more than likely the articles in the BS times would infact be BS... So it is really saying Essendon aren't shit, no?

 

[SM10]

LOL that looks like it was written by a 5yr old Bummerblitz is a website frequented by 10 - 15 yr old pimply faced effeminate bummers supporters .

Well who the fluck has he been training with you peanut ???

see folks this is why you should say no to drugs

DEEEEEFENSE!!!

 

[SM10]

Maybe they are an extremely jealous club that they had no talent to give WC to get Judd

 

[SM10]

Sorry I just realised I might have to help you out..

Ryder, Gumbleton and Jetta are all from WA

 

[Flymaster]

I was merely going by what Judd himself said around the time we signed him up- he said he'd be on full duties after Christmas. I guess I was just looking forward to seeing him run out for the Blues in Round 1 but if it doesn't happen then so be it. We can't really rely one player anyway...

Its one thing to be looking good on the training track running in a straight line but the real test will be when he starts having to twist and turn in a game situation week in week out. We will not really know whether Judd's surgery has worked until well into the second half of this season. I am on record as saying that he won't last the season before breaking down again. I hope not though because he is such a great player and I would prefer to see him playing, regardless of who he plays with.