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We all know Juddy is an champion, but the media love is now reaching quite scary proportions.

On the weekend, when playing against witches hats and the margin was over 100 points - he kicked a long bomb that seems to have reduced the nation to a standstill it was apparently so amazing.

Last year, in Round 6 - Pies played Carlton in a game we dominated for 2.5 quarters and then the Blues got a big run on and got back within a goal late in the 3rd. Enter Dane Swan, he went to Judd and kicked an 80m bomb at a crucial moment of the game to stop the Carlton momentum and we went on to win by 10 goals. Judd famously polled 3 Brownlow votes and Swanny's match turning goal barely rated a mention in any form of media, not to mention the 31 disposals, 10 marks, 8 tackles, 6 inside 50's, 10 clearances!

Here is a video of it. Not only was it longer and at a more crucial stage of the game, he was directly opposed to Juddy at the time. Seriously incredible that it never got any recognition when you consider the frenzy over Juddy's great goal against the Tigers on Saturday.

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Ablett played a game that was as good as Judd's in a losing side on the weekend.

Judd is back to being a brownlow favourite with Murphy and Gibbs having pretty good years (taking away the 'he's the only good player so he always gets the 3 votes' argument) Whilst Ablett has had a better year than Judd's last year with a much bigger case for the same argument.

Judd is a great player but there is a Judd awe that is very self perpetuating. Judd is amazing therefore everything he does is more amazing than anyone else, therefore he is constantly more amazing than anyone else.
 
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Tunnel vision at its best. Ablett does that kind of thing nearly every game.

It has honestly reached ridiculous proportions.

Judd isn't even the best player at Carlton this year, let alone in the competition. Ablett in my view is by far the best player in the comp and a lone hand in a very young team. He is a much more complete player than Judd as well, there is not a single weakness in his game.
 

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Lets not get confused. I'm a huge Juddy fan, the guy is a gun and a consummate professional. I'm just shocked at how each week, seemingly standard pieces of play that he is involved in are mentioned like he changed the way the game is played with his amazing artistry.

He gets a standard Luke Ball clearance by putting his head over the footy and beating a man for the ball and the commentators go off like he is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. He breaks away from a stoppage and gets a release handball and kicks a goal, and its like its never been done before!

They go very quiet on the quite frequent occasion these days when he gets a release handball from Curnow/Robinson and then promptly turns it over.

Juddy is a champion, but the love is getting to epic proportions for just standard acts of play repeated almost 5 times a game by other players at his own club let alone the opposition.

PS: agree with someone else above, Gaz is the best player in the comp by a mile and has been for 4 years now.
 
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Happy Mastenator said:
Didn't his 70 metre (actaully more like 60m) goal bounce in the square as well? not exactly a thumping kick.
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Yep, Judd would struggle to kick it more than 50 metres these days, and when he does they have no penetration, just floaters.

I actually remember that game clearly, I was there at the ground and watching the midfield battle very closely. Judd was good at winning the ball in close but constantly turned the ball over. Every time he'd kick it was just aimless. He was also terribly lax defensively, the Collinwood mids were just rotating off him and burning him off.

Swan was so clearly best on ground it was ridiculous.
 
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On the weekend;

Sharrod Wellingham kicked a goal from 55 metres out on a tight angle.

Travis Cloke kicked a goal from 55m out.

Darren Jolly kicked one from 55m that went into the crowd.:eek:

Where's our media love?:confused:

I haven't seen Judd's goal, and probably never will, because like most people in Melbourne, I wasn't watching a super delayed Channel 10 coverage of a game where we already knew that Richmond had given up for the season.

Simply put, SO ****ING WHAT, he kicked a goal, Stevie J's goal was better (the one where he was sitting on his arse and he still kicked it).:thumbsu:
 
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Soul_Pie said:
Yep, Judd would struggle to kick it more than 50 metres these days, and when he does they have no penetration, just floaters.
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He seems to be covering the ground better these days. A little like Luke Ball, he might have some relief from the groin troubles of previous seasons. The goal on the weekend was very good and a very penetrating kick, just not worthy of the 3000000000 mentions in various media outlets afterwards.

I actually remember that game clearly, I was there at the ground and watching the midfield battle very closely. Judd was good at winning the ball in close but constantly turned the ball over. Every time he'd kick it was just aimless. He was also terribly lax defensively, the Collinwood mids were just rotating off him and burning him off.

Swan was so clearly best on ground it was ridiculous.
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Wouldn't go that far. Juddy was very very good that day, but Swan was better. Juddy did nothing defensively, and you can even see when Swanny kicks that goal, Judd is his direct opponent (and while Brock shouldn't let him run trhough the mark) Juddy shouldn't have been in no mans land watching his opponent kick an 80m bomb over his head with the game in the balance.
 
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There was nothing standard about Judd's goal, just like there was nothing standard about his 3 vote getting performance on Saturday.
This thread is an open invitation for carlton trolls to come and mock us with "still sore about last years Brownlow?"

Do not approve.
 
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mattys123 said:
On the weekend;

Sharrod Wellingham kicked a goal from 55 metres out on a tight angle.

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Wellingham's incredible pressure, then effective tackle to win the free kick, followed by a 55m bomb from near the boundary got one single mention that I can remember from the various outlets after the weekends games. Gerard Whately highlighted it on After the Bounce and Spud was gasping at how good it was.
 
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PieBeast said:
There was nothing standard about Judd's goal, just like there was nothing standard about his 3 vote getting performance on Saturday.
This thread is an open invitation for carlton trolls to come and mock us with "still sore about last years Brownlow?"

Do not approve.
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You're missing the point. It was not a standard goal, it was a very good one. However, it wasn't worthy of the blanket coverage it received. Especially when there were acts such as the Wellingham tackle and goal, the Stevie J 'ass goal' and as pointed out, the Swan goal from Round 6 - that barely rated a mention.

I just expanded on the point, that even his 'standard acts' get gushes from commentators and I sit there on the couch thinking 'I swear he just won a clearance and handballed to Murphy - why is Denis jizzing his pants?'
 

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Thommo 42 said:
You're missing the point. It was not a standard goal, it was a very good one. However, it wasn't worthy of the blanket coverage it received. Especially when there were acts such as the Wellingham tackle and goal, the Stevie J 'ass goal' and as pointed out, the Swan goal from Round 6 - that barely rated a mention.

I just expanded on the point, that even his 'standard acts' get gushes from commentators and I sit there on the couch thinking 'I swear he just won a clearance and handballed to Murphy - why is Denis jizzing his pants?'
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Well Judd didn't get any praise for two bellow par displays prior to last weekends games and surely we're all used to commentators blowing their load whenever he does something half-decent by now? And considering it was one of the goals of the week its business as usual.
Wellers' tackle and goal were highlighted on both Footy shows and yesterdays News by the way.
I just don't see anything outrageous about this, so we'll agree to disagree.
 
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I'm not sure how many of you watched the Carlton v Richmond game but at one stage Judd was running into goal along the boundary and kicked for goal from about 25m out and typically shanked it, only for a Carlton player to mark it before it went through for a behind, and the commentators were saying Judd purposefully placed it there and how much of a champion he was.
 
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Yeah I heard that and couldn't believe it. Not long after they got stuck into Chrisso for his bias (not those words but that was their meaning). Walls having a crack at someone for bias during a Carlton telecast. Get your hand off it Walls!! Do you see the irony? In fact the only positive thing I remember hearing about Richmond was in regards to how well Grigg was going :rolleyes: Seriously painful commentating team.
 
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Ed D said:
I'm not sure how many of you watched the Carlton v Richmond game but at one stage Judd was running into goal along the boundary and kicked for goal from about 25m out and typically shanked it, only for a Carlton player to mark it before it went through for a behind, and the commentators were saying Judd purposefully placed it there and how much of a champion he was.
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Yeah, Robert Walls suggested that he meant to pass it.
Chriso, pulled him up and said something like "Oh, come on, you're kidding right?"
The odd thing is that Walls wasn't. Chriso later said that Walls and the other commentator only spoke about Carlton and never mentioned Richmond once.
I cannot believe how overrated Judd is. His disposal is woeful. Honestly, who would you want running towards the forward line with the footy, Judd of Buckley?
 
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Judd has great weighting in his kicking, but doesn't have the penetration or accuracy of a great kicker. His contested work, burst running and vision is what makes him a great player IMO and I think it's the vision/decision making that make people think his disposal is elite but really if you cut out the rest of it and look soley at his kicking it's pretty ordinary, which is highlighted when he takes set shots on goal.
 
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I approve this thread:thumbsu::thumbsu:

Makes me sick when the commentators go stupid everytime he gets a kick yet shanks it and don't say a word.Last Saturday was a perfect example of the bias channel ten commentating.Why have Walls and Lane(Pretty sure he was commentating) on a Carlton game:confused:So glad they aint doing the football next year.Don't have to listen to Walls and Lane ever again:thumbsu:

Also I love Before the Game but the Carlton love on that show makes me sick.Everytime Carlton lose the three Carlton people saying nothing but when they win they don't shut up and Maher has this stupid look on his face.Then when we happen to drop a game they put the boots into us:thumbsd:

Not saying Judds not a great player because he is great but don't need to carry on about every possession he gets in a match.
 

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His goal didn't even warrant a thread in the Carlton board so I find it strange to find one in here.

Not trolling but you do realise we went through the same stuff with Swan last season?

Same can be said whenever Cyril Rioli goes near the ball, they talk him up way to much and credit him with 'assists' when he has made an error but luckily the ball finds the hands of a team mate who goals.
 
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Please do not turn this into a thread bashing Judd and questioning his disposal. The purpose was to highlight the incredible adulation he gets from seemingly simple acts on a football field that happen regularly.
 
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Pklz said:
His goal didn't even warrant a thread in the Carlton board so I find it strange to find one in here.

Not trolling but you do realise we went through the same stuff with Swan last season?

Same can be said whenever Cyril Rioli goes near the ball, they talk him up way to much and credit him with 'assists' when he has made an error but luckily the ball finds the hands of a team mate who goals.
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Agree on Rioli. Strongly disagree on Swan. He had so many outstanding games last year they didn't even bother. His game vs Port was all-time, yet barely rated a mention. On the contrary, we still hear about Judd's vintage display against the Swans earlier this year, which arguably wasn't as good as Swan vs Port, 2010.
 
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I remember watching that game.

Judd was clearly BOG.

Also, whilst Swan started on Judd at that centre bounce, he lays a tackle on Maclean wins a free kick, then attempts to pass the ball to Beams at the top of the square, fortuitously the ball bounces through for a goal.

How are you not seeing that?
 
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I just have no idea where this Judd exaggeration comes from that's just self perpetuating. He is a very good player, but he has a lot of deficiencies that the media just gloss past. He's such a terrible player around goals, totally ineffective and lost, can't win marking contests, and he can't kick off the line he is running in.
It's just bizarre.
Is it the grimace, I just don't get it.
 

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