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Could he go and live overseas in a cheap country.
Say Bali.
Then invest his cash and live off the interest.
At what point could the Dogs stop paying him?
Depending on how much he has left over, possibly for a while but I don’t think he would have most of it left.

I’d also suggest with the love of nose beers, going to Bali would be fraught with danger.
 
good list management by the dogs only locking him in til end of 26.
Extremely underrated this. When he signed that deal it would have beem very easy to get sucked into that 9 year type deal and get it over and done with. Imagine if he had 7 years to go on his deal
 
im on annual leave and L/Looading is 17.5% of your hrly rate
Leave loading is normally for award wage employees who receive regular overtime and allowances. It's there to try and ensure that their pay stays around average when they are off on annual leave.

AFL players do not get overtime - almost all of them are on an annual contracted amount, not hourly or weekly, so it's extremely unlikely that any would have leave loading in their contracts.
 
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Leave loading is normally for award wage employees who receive regular overtime and allowances. It's there to try and ensure that their pay stays around average when they are off on annual leave.

AFL players do not get overtime - almost all of them are on an annual contracted amount, not hourly or weekly, so it's extremely unlikely that any would have leave loading in their contracts.
yeah im aware of that

the question was is annual leave loading still a thing

obviously its for wage employees
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Could he go and live overseas in a cheap country.
Say Bali.
Then invest his cash and live off the interest.
At what point could the Dogs stop paying him?

Not sure he'd be swimming in savings at the moment.

Probably earned $150k his first two years. $350-400k the last two.

Tax, manager/agent costs, being a dick head. You'd wonder how much he's sitting on?

The big money only kicked in this year, (might have been anticipating it) which coincides with him truly going off the rails.

Little chance a guy like this would have the discipline to invest and live off the proceeds.
 
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Not sure he'd be swimming in savings at the moment.

Probably $150k his first two years. $350-400k the last two.

Tax, manager/agent costs, being a dick head. You'd wonder how much he's sitting on?

The big money only kicked in this year, (might have been anticipating it) which coincides with him truly going off the rails.

Little chance a guy like this would have the discipline to invest and live off the proceeds.
A normal person could pretty much set themselves up by 35 with that income.
 
the player agents do a lot more than just setup engagements and transfer them their money

almost all of them contribute money towards investments of some descript, infact I believe there is an AFLPA mandate to ensure a portion of funds are reserved for this
 
Honestly think the afl needs to just put a line in the sand and allow clubs provisions to sack players if they are acting like JUH in this scenario.

Obviously provide all the mental health services etc, but at the end of the day it's still a workplace and a business. Other leagues do it without any issues.
I agree, I think it's because the players are a tradable asset are so are valuable to clubs, they need to tip toe around them so they don't lose too much value and if they sack them the value is gone.

Maybe if someone is sacked in this manner, they don't qualify for a delisted free agent status (except with the original club) and have to go into the draft to re-enter the AFL. Any future drafting of the same player, the pick used goes back to the original club. Eg. JUH gets sacked, turns his life around in 2 years, dominates VFL and is picked up in the draft for pick 10. That pick then goes straight to the Dogs in the draft and they use it straight away.

It really doesn't affect the draft then as much as F/S, academy or pp's as there is no extra kid removed from the pool. That way, clubs might be able to hold players to account a bit more as at least there is a way to cut off the money and still get them back to the club or some currency returned in the future.
 

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Extremely underrated this. When he signed that deal it would have beem very easy to get sucked into that 9 year type deal and get it over and done with. Imagine if he had 7 years to go on his deal
From what I was told no team was willing to offer him more than 2. Seems like clubs have learnt from some bad experiences in the past thankfully.
Spoke to a close friend of his coach yesterday. Wrong crowd type situation from the sounds of it.

Dogs refused to offer more than 2 years hoping he'd be offered better and request to go while he's still got value. Other clubs followed the Dogs lead and didn't want to offer him anything long term so they agreed to sign him for the 2 hoping he'd come good.

Said he's as good as gone at the end of the year after the pre season he's had. Didn't allude to where that could be.

Hopefully for his sake he can sort his life out before he finds himself out of the AFL. Exceptional talent, don't want it to go to waste.
 
No issue with players clapping back at the media. Media personalities generally have no accountability for the consequences of their actions anyway.
It's another demonstration of how immature and clueless he is. For all his status, he doesn't get that clapping back makes him look like a completely clueless flog. Rather than counter what Riewoldt is saying (for which he has no comeback because he knows deep down its true) he does an immature picture which has no relevance to the situation at hand. Riewoldt was an absolutely relentless professional driven to get the best out of himself and get team success. JUH is the exact opposite. I'm not a massive fan of Riewoldt the commentator, but he's bang on in this circumstance. JUH is clearly taking the piss and it sets a dangerous precedent.
 
If he’s hanging with bikies, he’ll lose more than it all. He’ll end up owing them.
This is another angle to the whole situation. The integrity of the sport. It's (increasingly) a not so slippery slope, particularly when you have multiple players on the same team hanging out with said types.
 
If he’s hanging with bikies, he’ll lose more than it all. He’ll end up owing them.

A person I know became an associate member of one of the OMCG when he was in his early 20s. He rode, partook in some pretty big brawls, possibly carried some illegal things across state borders (don't ask if you're not sure you want to know the answer seemed to be the way - he said sometimes the passengers in the car seemed to be the cargo rather than anything else). A relative of his was also in the gang and received very much life changing injuries during an attempted hit on another member, and the guy I know subsequently asked to leave the gang. No issues, apparently. If you're a hothead that can't be trusted then leaving is hard, but if you just outgrow it then leaving apparently isn't challenging. JUH being a bank/face for them is the big long term risk that lots of other young blokes hanging out with bikies don't have. Easier for him to join probably, but also harder for him to leave.
 
the player agents do a lot more than just setup engagements and transfer them their money

almost all of them contribute money towards investments of some descript, infact I believe there is an AFLPA mandate to ensure a portion of funds are reserved for this

While that's true. It's the time he's been in the league and how much he's earned in the prior 4 years.

Even if he's saved half his post tax AFL salary in that time, it would be $300-350k.

It's not exactly FU money.
 

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