Society/Culture Kyle Rittenhouse

[Achy Blakey Heart]

It was a protest against police who put 8 bullets in someones back unnecessarily.
It was a protest against police brutality and disproportionate force.

Since whendoes a ‘protest’ involveburning cars and damaging businesses, carrying pistols and chanting extemeist socialist shit?

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

Can you explain why he wasn't considered one? I wasn't following the trial too closely.

An active shooter is someone who attends a scene with the intent to kill as many people as possible. Rittenhouse was present in the crowd for some time and only fired when he was chased/ attacked by those deceased. If he was an active shooter there would have been a much higher body count and absolutely no grounds for self defence.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

yeah he was legally open carrying an AR15. it's a fine rifle.

So it's more than just the right to bear arms. He wasn't walking around with a concealed pistol.

 

[scoman]

So if you come across someone with a gun running away from a school and people screaming "he shot someone" and you point your pistol at them to apprehend them, they can shoot you and claim self defence?

That is a bit murky with the Wisconsin laws. I don't think that is the case though. Regardless they would still be facing prosecution for the shootings at the school. That would be cold comfort for your family and friends if you were killed in that situation. At the end of the day, though, if you decide to pull your gun on someone you take a massive risk. Even if you believe you are defending people and saving lives

 

[Financialpanther]

yeah he was legally open carrying an AR15. it's a fine rifle.

The fact that it is legal to do so is the bizarre part.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

yeah he was legally open carrying an AR15. it's a fine rifle.

Interestingly Gaige Grosskreutz actually broke the law in relation to firearms more than Rittenhouse. He had a concealed carry pistol with no valid permit to do so which is an offence. Not to mention the amount of lies he told investigators. What a scum bag. Glad he won’t get a cent from his 10 mil case.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

The fact that it is legal to do so is the bizarre part.

That’s a whole other thread. Has nothing to do with Rittenhouse.

 

[Financialpanther]

That’s a whole other thread. Has nothing to do with Rittenhouse.

It has only an indirect thread to him as it is allowable under the law. That was the conversation about it being bizarre to allow open carry with an assault rifle

 

[Chicago1]

What a shithole of a country to live in. I guess I made a pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good decision to leave forever four years ago!

 

[sherb]

Since whendoes a ‘protest’ involveburning cars and damaging businesses, carrying pistols and chanting extemeist socialist sh*t?

What proportion of those present over the various days engaged in these activities?

 

[Financialpanther]

What a shithole of a country to live in. I guess I made a pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good decision to leave forever four years ago!

I’d reckon - the next decade is going to be a roller coaster and not in a good way.

 

[Jupes]

So it's more than just the right to bear arms. He wasn't walking around with a concealed pistol.

so? it was lawful open carry.

 

[Jupes]

The fact that it is legal to do so is the bizarre part.

different places have different cultures and laws who would've guessed?

 

[Chief]

different places have different cultures and laws who would've guessed?

But what are laws and cultures for? To serve people? When you see these things that cause damage, it’s puzzling.

 

[Financialpanther]

different places have different cultures and laws who would've guessed?

Well yes - which is why people posting on an Australian forum find that concept bizarre

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

The way forward is clear (at least according to Wisconsin open-carry state law).

1. Go to a white nationalist/supremacist/any other far right meet where you know folks will be armed.
2. Be armed yourself with a long-barreled semi-automatic rifle.
3. Announce yourself as being pro-humanitarian or simply BE a person of 'colour' or of 'ethnic' persuasion.
4. When they gun for you, and they will, put as many down as you can.
5. If you still live, claim self defence

The Rittenhouse case shows what can be gotten away with in that particular state if a person had the notion to. I don't think we'll see any 'copycat' actions actually happen going forward, but the case is instructional if you live in that part of the world and its instructions that you need.

SOURCE ON WISCONSIN GUN LAWS: https://gunlawsuits.org/gun-laws/wisconsin/open-carry/

 

[Jupes]

But what are laws and cultures for? To serve people? When you see these things that cause damage, it’s puzzling.

seemed to serve kyle well as it is what stopped him becoming a brown stain on the streets of kenosha.

Well yes - which is why people posting on an Australian forum find that concept bizarre

i agree. people ignorant of a culture are likely to find it strange and bizarre.

 

[scoman]

The way forward is clear (at least according to Wisconsin open-carry state law).

1. Go to a white nationalist/supremacist/any other far right meet where you know folks will be armed.
2. Be armed yourself with a long-barreled semi-automatic rifle.
3. Announce yourself as being pro-humanitarian or simply BE a person of 'colour' or of 'ethnic' persuasion.
4. When they gun for you, and they will, put as many down as you can.
5. If you still live, claim self defence

The Rittenhouse case shows what can be gotten away with in that particular state if a person had the notion to. I don't think we'll see any 'copycat' actions actually happen going forward, but the case is instructional if you live in that part of the world and its instructions that you need.

SOURCE ON WISCONSIN GUN LAWS: https://gunlawsuits.org/gun-laws/wisconsin/open-carry/

All just complete horse shit.

Edit: The reality is if you tried to use it as a blueprint to inflict death on others you would be almost guaranteed to **** it up. Either shoot too early and lose the self defence angle or end up dead yourself as Rittenhouse almost did. In fact it's pretty remarkable he survived.

 

[jim_shoes]

What proportion of those present over the various days engaged in these activities?

Enough to cause alot of damage. I don't understand why you guys on the left dont join in the condemnation of these people that turn your events into riots. They undermine your cause.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Enough to cause alot of damage. I don't understand why you guys on the left dont join in the condemnation of these people that turn your events into riots. They undermine your cause.

I remember condemning the looting and the burning of shops as it happened. They were local businesses that employed local people.

 

[Financialpanther]

seemed to serve kyle well as it is what stopped him becoming a brown stain on the streets of kenosha.

i agree. people ignorant of a culture are likely to find it strange and bizarre.

Pretty silly stating anyone that finds it strange is ignorant. You can understand it to the ends of the earth and still find it bizarre if it is fundamentally different to how we exist over here.

 

[sherb]

Enough to cause alot of damage. I don't understand why you guys on the left dont join in the condemnation of these people that turn your events into riots. They undermine your cause.

The poster I quoted seemed to be saying it wasn't a protest because of the violence involved.

The logical extension of that is that he was painting the whole thing, from start to finish, as a riot (or similar). And all those involved as rioters.

Do you agree with him?

That's why I asked the question. If 20% of those present were violent and anti-social, does that mean the rest were?

And, no, that's not defending the violence, arson, etc that went on. Or downplaying it. Or "not condemning" it.

It's just laying the blame for the violence at the feet of those who committed it, not everyone who was present.

I don't see why that is so hard to understand.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

All just complete horse sh*t.

Okay okay, I've finished laughing. What exactly is horseshit about my post that you replied to?

 

[scoman]

Okay okay, I've finished laughing. What exactly is horseshit about my post that you replied to?

I added an explanation.

 

[sherb]

I remember condemning the looting and the burning of shops as it happened. They were local businesses that employed local people.

Condemning the violence, looting, arson, etc to me is a given. It shouldn't even form part of the discussion, that's how obvious the given is.