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Honestly, I see him up in the top 10 in the future, obviously beating players like Nadal and making it into his 2nd quarter final grand slam in his teen years is impressive, but i can only see him reaching that high in the rankings if he can 1) mature and stop retaliating against the umpires decision 2) polish and tweak his game to the best of its possibility. I have more hopes in this kid than bloody tomic
 
He's 19 and is playing some fine tennis.

Obviously still has a long way to go but he just needs to keep improving everyday, that's all we can wish for, if he can do that, then I see no reason why he can't become one of the top players around the world in a couple of years, he has all the tools required.
 
I don't usually like Pat Cash, but I think he made some excellent points in this article. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/t...off-nick-kyrgios/story-fnibcgxs-1227196217341

I think people need to allow him to find and be his own person and not try to make him fit into a box personality wise. Plenty of successful players have argued with umpires and broken racquets with far greater frequency than Nick does.

A far greater to Kyrgios' success I think is him avoiding being himself on court in order to please others or to try to fit into a mould others want him to be.
 

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It annoys me its going to be Kyrgios v Tomic their whole careers

You wont be able to talk about one without making vague insults as the other (ala 'bloody tomic')

People assumed Tomic could just come on and be a top 10-20 player but it doesnt just happen

Obviously though Kyrgio has put impressive numbers on the boards in his early days but hes also showed some injury concerns

Hard to imagine based on current form how he isnt top 20 relatively soon though, hes playing to that level
 
TAB have the Kyrgios vs Murray odds up

Murray $1.17 - $5 Krygios

3-0 Murray $2
3-1 Murray $3.40
3-2 Murray $6.50

3-0 Krygios $18
3-1 Krygios $12
3-2 Krygios $10

Thoughts?
 
Hopefully, as he progressess due to his obvious ability he will mature to the point of ridding himself of the childish and petulant behaviour that includes breaking racquets.
 
I see this morning, in the media, that people are making more reference to Kyrgios throwing his racquet, than the fact that he came from two sets down and rallied to come back and win 8-6 in the third, against an opponent who never let up. It was a great achievement, and a great way to see in Australia Day, yet the media play on the negatives again.

It seems that many of the Australian pubic have turned on Kyrgios, going by talkback calls, and I tipped it would happen.

Every time we get a young hopeful, we first embrace them and act like they are the great hope. He will get massive media coverage, and they talk to his family, and the media will act all gooey about him, but then, six months later, we start wanting them to be a perfect gentleman on and off court, never showing emotion except if it is a fist pump. Then we turn on them, and say how they are a bad role model for children, but if they start winning Grand Slams we then act like we love them again, even though they still act the same way that we condemned, but it's now okay, because he wins titles.

The public turned on Philippousiss, they turned on Tomic, they even turned on Jelena Dokic, they turned on Hewitt, until he won Grand Slams and made finals, now we love his on-court antics, and now Kyrgios.

I notice Pat Rafter putting in his two cents. But of course, he was a golden boy of tennis. Right now, he is probably helping some little old lady across the road, or pulling some children out of a burning building. I have actually seen the butter that didn't melt in his mouth. So, Rafter, who was a brownnosing suckjob, who threw Philippoussis under a bus during Scud's feud with Newcombe, was loved by the Aussie public, because he pretended to be everything they wanted him to be. He won titles, and always took the side of officialdom over his fellow Aussie players, and toed the party line. I see he is now Davis Cup captain, so his brownosing paid off, it seems. But the media and public seem to want to mold all our players into the Rafter "nice guy" mold, rather than be themselves.
 
Babylove said:
I don't usually like Pat Cash, but I think he made some excellent points in this article. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/t...off-nick-kyrgios/story-fnibcgxs-1227196217341

I think people need to allow him to find and be his own person and not try to make him fit into a box personality wise. Plenty of successful players have argued with umpires and broken racquets with far greater frequency than Nick does.

A far greater to Kyrgios' success I think is him avoiding being himself on court in order to please others or to try to fit into a mould others want him to be.
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I agree. Give him time, and Nick will eventually calm down on court, and be more professional. He obviously loves the game, and is very emotional on court. Plus he seems to have a supporting family and team.
 
GTOA said:
I see this morning, in the media, that people are making more reference to Kyrgios throwing his racquet, than the fact that he came from two sets down and rallied to come back and win 8-6 in the third, against an opponent who never let up. It was a great achievement, and a great way to see in Australia Day, yet the media play on the negatives again.

It seems that many of the Australian pubic have turned on Kyrgios, going by talkback calls, and I tipped it would happen.

Every time we get a young hopeful, we first embrace them and act like they are the great hope. He will get massive media coverage, and they talk to his family, and the media will act all gooey about him, but then, six months later, we start wanting them to be a perfect gentleman on and off court, never showing emotion except if it is a fist pump. Then we turn on them, and say how they are a bad role model for children, but if they start winning Grand Slams we then act like we love them again, even though they still act the same way that we condemned, but it's now okay, because he wins titles.

The public turned on Philippousiss, they turned on Tomic, they even turned on Jelena Dokic, they turned on Hewitt, until he won Grand Slams and made finals, now we love his on-court antics, and now Kyrgios.

I notice Pat Rafter putting in his two cents. But of course, he was a golden boy of tennis. Right now, he is probably helping some little old lady across the road, or pulling some children out of a burning building. I have actually seen the butter that didn't melt in his mouth. So, Rafter, who was a brownnosing suckjob, who threw Philippoussis under a bus during Scud's feud with Newcombe, was loved by the Aussie public, because he pretended to be everything they wanted him to be. He won titles, and always took the side of officialdom over his fellow Aussie players, and toed the party line. I see he is now Davis Cup captain, so his brownosing paid off, it seems. But the media and public seem to want to mold all our players into the Rafter "nice guy" mold, rather than be themselves.
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So true, we expect our players to be like Rafter - Mr Perfect lol
 
JuddsABlue said:
It annoys me its going to be Kyrgios v Tomic their whole careers

You wont be able to talk about one without making vague insults as the other (ala 'bloody tomic')

People assumed Tomic could just come on and be a top 10-20 player but it doesnt just happen

Obviously though Kyrgio has put impressive numbers on the boards in his early days but hes also showed some injury concerns

Hard to imagine based on current form how he isnt top 20 relatively soon though, hes playing to that level
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I don't think people just assumed Tomic was going to go into the top 10.

Even as a youngster he had a heap of catching up to do in terms of strength and power etc. his shot making was good though.

Kygrios is alot more advanced at the same age, his ground strokes and serve are far closer to the top players, his movement etc needs work rather than major parts of his game.

Tomic, for his size doesn't have the power in his game of the other top players. I doubt we'll see him get much farther than the top 20 in his career.

Kokkanakis has more natural power than both of them though, and at 6"6 could be anything when his body fills out, could be the best of the lot, but Kygrios is definitely ahead atm.
 

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People need to harden the **** up. Complaining about smashing his racquet lol.
 
Can't believe the negativity by everyone. Yes he's a little cocky, chirpy, demonstrative. But he's a sportsman for goodness sake. If you don't have those traits you're not going to be successful in this game (unless your Rafter like others have suggested).
 
But his on-court attitude has drawn the ire of social media users, particularly after he swore at members of the crowd, including one person using their mobile phone.

"Get off your f---ing phone," he yelled, during the crucial fourth set.
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If someone in the crowd using their phone distracts him that much, he's not good enough to win a Grand Slam. Harden the **** up.
 
Return game is far too weak to become top 5-10

What defines the best of the best is their stats on the return game. Kyrgios is behind significantly.
 

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This guy will be win a couple of slams and it's the attitude that will help him. If he focusses on reigning it in he will get nowhere.
People can dislike him if they want coz at the moment he looks like a tool, I don't think screaming 'TOWEL' at a ballgirl is a good look, there was a lot more crap he did on court yesterday but it won't hinder him becoming a great player.
He may naturally calm down later on, but telling him to won't get this kid anywhere.
Let people dislike him, let others celebrate him, it's all just a natural progression to becoming a star of the game weather we like it or not.
Be yourself.
 
GTOA said:
I see this morning, in the media, that people are making more reference to Kyrgios throwing his racquet, than the fact that he came from two sets down and rallied to come back and win 8-6 in the third, against an opponent who never let up. It was a great achievement, and a great way to see in Australia Day, yet the media play on the negatives again.

It seems that many of the Australian pubic have turned on Kyrgios, going by talkback calls, and I tipped it would happen.

Every time we get a young hopeful, we first embrace them and act like they are the great hope. He will get massive media coverage, and they talk to his family, and the media will act all gooey about him, but then, six months later, we start wanting them to be a perfect gentleman on and off court, never showing emotion except if it is a fist pump. Then we turn on them, and say how they are a bad role model for children, but if they start winning Grand Slams we then act like we love them again, even though they still act the same way that we condemned, but it's now okay, because he wins titles.

The public turned on Philippousiss, they turned on Tomic, they even turned on Jelena Dokic, they turned on Hewitt, until he won Grand Slams and made finals, now we love his on-court antics, and now Kyrgios.

I notice Pat Rafter putting in his two cents. But of course, he was a golden boy of tennis. Right now, he is probably helping some little old lady across the road, or pulling some children out of a burning building. I have actually seen the butter that didn't melt in his mouth. So, Rafter, who was a brownnosing suckjob, who threw Philippoussis under a bus during Scud's feud with Newcombe, was loved by the Aussie public, because he pretended to be everything they wanted him to be. He won titles, and always took the side of officialdom over his fellow Aussie players, and toed the party line. I see he is now Davis Cup captain, so his brownosing paid off, it seems. But the media and public seem to want to mold all our players into the Rafter "nice guy" mold, rather than be themselves.
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Geez you really do have an axe to grind:rolleyes:, given what you've expressed about Rafter I guess you wouldn't be overly enamoured by the likes of Federer and the other players who know how to control their emotions?
 
Hudu Gurusingha said:
Return game is far too weak to become top 5-10

What defines the best of the best is their stats on the return game. Kyrgios is behind significantly.
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I think once he gets bigger and stronger his defensive side of the game and return will get better. Dimitrov used to pretty weak in this area but under Rasheed he's become an absolute animal. He certainly needs to improve this area though to be effective consistently against the top 10.

In terms of his attitude... he'll always be very polarizing. He's brash and bold- sure you don't want him swearing his head off and getting pissed off after every little thing that doesn't go his way but it is also his strength. He is ice cold in the clutch situations, his somewhat cocky and alpha male attitude sees him rise to the occasion when the heat is turned up. I think with maturity he will naturally mellow. Roger was no saint back in his junior days and early on in his senior career, however he learnt to control his emotions and channel his energy better. Lleyton was very much in you face and rubbed people the wrong way too but as time went on he reigned it in a bit too.

I think it's promising that he's doing pretty damn well (mainly in slams) with some holes in his game. The big challenge for him now is to keep it up in a less 'amped up' environment. I think he's played 4 ATP tour tourney's (not counting slams) and has only had the 1 win (he's lost in the first round in 3 of the 4). He enjoys the big stage but can he still motivate himself when he's playing in front of smaller crowd overseas, or a crowd that probably will heckle him as they're less attuned to his type of attitude? At a Roland Garros if he pulls this shit he'll get alot of stick for sure and I'm not sure he'll take a liking to it. He'll learn with more experience though, if he stays humble on the inside, keeps working and doesn't think he has made the big time already... he's got grand slam winning talent for sure.
 
Just a typically angsty teen who's been thrust into an adults world. No biggie. Give him some time to mature, he'll mellow.

There's a fair chance he'll overstep the mark somewhere overseas when there's not a massive Aussie crowd behind him and he'll be told to pull his head in. Which I think he'll cop, 'cos he's not angry; just intense. That same intensity is what wins him big matches, but in a few years he'll be able to call on experience and his honed skills instead. By most reports good kid off the court (??) so as long has he doesn't go off the rails, he'll be perfectly fine.
 

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