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[itsintheblood]

And I for one am rapt.

Tigers put picks before Polak
2:17:56 PM Tue 10 October, 2006
Paul Gough
Sportal for afl.com.au

Richmond has conceded it will struggle to secure Fremantle key position player Graham Polak during AFL trade week with the Tigers not willing to sacrifice their youth policy by surrendering draft picks.

While the Tigers began trade week as the frontrunners to secure the talented 22-year-old, Richmond football director Greg Miller said on Tuesday it was now highly unlikely Polak would end up at Punt Road.

"We probably won't be involved (in a deal for Polak)," he told Sportal.

Miller said the Tigers would probably have to give up an early round draft pick to Fremantle in order to secure Polak but was not willing to do so with the Tigers determined to continue re-building their team with young draftees as they have done so impressively in the past two years - particularly given this year's draft is considered the strongest since the 2001 "super draft."

"We are building towards something here and we don't want to lose any draft choices," Miller said.


The Dockers are likely to demand at least a second round draft pick for Polak, given that at 22 and with 73 games behind him he is coming into the peak years of his career.

And he also has extra value because he can play both as a key forward and a key defender with the Tigers initially having earmarked him as a potential answer to their lack of height in defence.

Polak struggled to break into a much-improved Fremantle side this year, managing just 11 games for the season and only one after round 13 when the club's winning streak began.

Meanwhile Miller denied the Tigers had offered up goalsneak Andrew Krakouer for trade.

"That is not right, all we did is tell clubs (on the opening day of trade week on Monday) that we had an abundance of inside midfielders and that we were prepared to listen to offers but so far no-one has contacted us," he said.

 

[CoggaRules]

GM foxing again huh?

how goes it GM?

Miller said the Tigers would probably have to give up an early round draft pick to Fremantle in order to secure Polak but was not willing to do so with the Tigers determined to continue re-building their team with young draftees as they have done so impressively in the past two years - particularly given this year's draft is considered the strongest since the 2001 "super draft.

We are building towards something here and we don't want to lose any draft choices.

and then, "The Dockers are likely to demand at least a second round draft pick for Polak, given that at 22 and with 73 games behind him he is coming into the peak years of his career".

Now when you put the puzzle together, 22 yold with 73 games? we are building for the future, so we want our second round lucky dip, instead of a known quantity that is soooooooooooooo old huh GM?

 

[Booms]

Dont believe a word this man says this week...hahah he runs a circus! Last yr Richmond had no 'further interest' in Fevola...then its revealed Wallace and Miller were having dinner at Fevs on the Wednesday of trade week signing the papers hahahahah! Miller loves manipulation!

 

[rota69]

MMM we need one of Brown polak or Thornton or we are in trouble next year

 

[Punt_Road_Roar]

GM foxing again huh?

how goes it GM?

Miller said the Tigers would probably have to give up an early round draft pick to Fremantle in order to secure Polak but was not willing to do so with the Tigers determined to continue re-building their team with young draftees as they have done so impressively in the past two years - particularly given this year's draft is considered the strongest since the 2001 "super draft.

We are building towards something here and we don't want to lose any draft choices.

and then, "The Dockers are likely to demand at least a second round draft pick for Polak, given that at 22 and with 73 games behind him he is coming into the peak years of his career".

Now when you put the puzzle together, 22 yold with 73 games? we are building for the future, so we want our second round lucky dip, instead of a known quantity that is soooooooooooooo old huh GM?

Come on Cogga, surely even you could see that one sentence is a quote from Miller and the next sentence is pure media speculation added to the story.

 

[French Tiger]

If Polak has told Miller he only wants to go to the Tigers,he knows Freo dont want to loose him to Carl for nothing, so Miller is trying to get him for a Krak or Hyde etc! I could live with a 2nd rounder though!

 

[PLSC]

what trouble?

we say to moore, mcguane, hartigan, schulz etc stand up or pissoff

these guys need games and the quicker we know they are crap or good the better

hall and gaspar at key posts is laughable though

 

[CoggaRules]

Come on Cogga, surely even you could see that one sentence is a quote from Miller and the next sentence is pure media speculation added to the story.

yeah, but what you dont see is what GM doesnt say, that you wait and hang on his every word to hear. I mean lets face it, GM is telling the world what he is planning, so his plan is no longer a plan huh?.
Wheeling and dealing isnt something you open up to the media about dude, if you know how to wheel and deal.
You use the media in your wheeling and dealing if you know how to wheel and deal.
Think about it.
Here is a leg up, "The Dockers are likely to demand at least a second round draft pick for Polak",
GM states, "we would probably have to give up an early round draft pick to Fremantle in order to secure Polak".

Now of course you automatically think, we are not going to give away our early picks, correct? Yep, and we wont give them away as they stand, doesnt mean that we are not going to obtain an early second round pick down the track from some other deal now does it? So if Freo jumps at Polaks preference, to get something, because GM has made this statement in the media, they do, if they dont, then there are 4 days to go.

 

[wart101]

forget this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[wart101]

MMM we need one of Brown polak or Thornton or we are in trouble next year

trouble, ffs, where do you think the players skill is going to be at next year? one year better than the last, that means there skills will be better, just remember there still learning.

Players like LIDS, Tambo, Polo, RAinSy, even tuck are going to be a bit get better with each years expirience, think about that before you say we are in trouble, our back l;ine isn't that bad but yes, it does need work.

 

[CoggaRules]

If Polak has told Miller he only wants to go to the Tigers,he knows Freo dont want to loose him to Carl for nothing, so Miller is trying to get him for a Krak or Hyde etc! I could live with a 2nd rounder though!

especially if we had a couple of second rounders to play with.

 

[Punt_Road_Roar]

yeah, but what you dont see is what GM doesnt say, that you wait and hang on his every word to hear. I mean lets face it, GM is telling the world what he is planning, so his plan is no longer a plan huh?.
Wheeling and dealing isnt something you open up to the media about dude, if you know how to wheel and deal.
You use the media in your wheeling and dealing if you know how to wheel and deal.
Think about it.
Here is a leg up, "The Dockers are likely to demand at least a second round draft pick for Polak",
GM states, "we would probably have to give up an early round draft pick to Fremantle in order to secure Polak".

Now of course you automatically think, we are not going to give away our early picks, correct? Yep, and we wont give them away as they stand, doesnt mean that we are not going to obtain an early second round pick down the track from some other deal now does it? So if Freo jumps at Polaks preference, to get something, because GM has made this statement in the media, they do, if they dont, then there are 4 days to go.

Now I understand what your implying Cogga, but my question now is how deep is this draft supposed to be? I would think getting polak for a second round draft pick would be reasonable, doubt some Freo fans would think so, but every club over values their players.

I'd be amazed if Freo really did say they wanted atleast a second round pick and we turned it down, hence why I have my doubts about that piece of journalism being correct.

 

[rota69]

trouble, ffs, where do you think the players skill is going to be at next year? one year better than the last, that means there skills will be better, just remember there still learning.

Players like LIDS, Tambo, Polo, RAinSy, even tuck are going to be a bit get better with each years expirience, think about that before you say we are in trouble, our back l;ine isn't that bad but yes, it does need work.

Tall Backman Gaspar, Moore, Thursfield, Bowdens that looks terrible on paper.

 

[Captain_Brown_7]

Stick to your guns GM.

Do not under ANY circumstance trade our 1st or 2nd rnd picks. Have we not learnt ANYTHING over the past 20 years????

Drafting any player will have to be done on our terms and would have to fit in with the youth policy that has done so well the past 2 years. Anything outside this line will just not be acceptable.

 

[cherryripe]

MMM we need one of Brown polak or Thornton or we are in trouble next year

Then so be it. You think we're gonna challenge for a flag with any of those three?

 

[cherryripe]

Stick to your guns GM.

Do not under ANY circumstance trade our 1st or 2nd rnd picks. Have we not learnt ANYTHING over the past 20 years????

Drafting any player will have to be done on our terms and would have to fit in with the youth policy that has done so well the past 2 years. Anything outside this line will just not be acceptable.

Amen. Geez we never learn do we. No wonder other clubs laugh at us.

 

[Tigerland]

Polak is out of contract is he not?
He has told Fremantle he wants out has he not?
He has said he'd like to go to Richmond or Carlton (although I read that in the paper so it's probably rubbish)
Carlton have pick 1 in the PSD draft and have Thorton - another Key Defender who wants to go to Hawthorn.

What I'm getting at is.. Freo have to take whatever they can for him. They are not in a position of power.
Polak will walk into the PSD and the Blues will snap him up.
Freo will get nothing.

Now...., how does a 4th round pick sound?

 

[Weaver]

Polak is out of contract is he not?

Yep

He has told Fremantle he wants out has he not?

Nope. He has said that he would prefer to remain in Perth. His management is trying to beat some sense into him, trying to convince him that a life as a back-up at Fremantle would be a complete waste.

He has said he'd like to go to Richmond or Carlton (although I read that in the paper so it's probably rubbish)

Good job opportunites at Richmond. Big hole in our KP stakes. Probably doesn't much care where he goes.

Polak will walk into the PSD and the Blues will snap him up.
Freo will get nothing.

Probably will be happy to re-sign for Freo. Sun, surf, see, siestas. Never having to actually play. Continue his paid holiday.

Now...., how does a 4th round pick sound?

Freo would happily accept our offers, but we can't afford to take Polak without shipping out a player first. Swap pick 8 for 13 for example would probably get the deal done.

In the language of European soccer, we have to sell to buy.

Our inability to clear budget space for Polak is what is going to kill this deal. Not the picks.

 

[CoggaRules]

Polak is out of contract is he not?
He has told Fremantle he wants out has he not?
He has said he'd like to go to Richmond or Carlton (although I read that in the paper so it's probably rubbish)
Carlton have pick 1 in the PSD draft and have Thorton - another Key Defender who wants to go to Hawthorn.

What I'm getting at is.. Freo have to take whatever they can for him. They are not in a position of power.
Polak will walk into the PSD and the Blues will snap him up.
Freo will get nothing.

Now...., how does a 4th round pick sound?

copy that TL, but Freo getting nothing for him, doesnt mean its all that bad for Freo.
In essence if they do get nothing for him, it might be a plus for them.
Getting someone for the sake of getting someone, might hinder them in getting someone that they have to show the money to from elsewhere, . i.e. they have x space in the cap, without him and nothing for him, and x-y, , space in the cap, where y = the money they have to pay the something that they got for him, if they took that option.

 

[Tigerland]

Yep
Our inability to clear budget space for Polak is what is going to kill this deal. Not the picks.

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Why is our budget so tight this year.
Kellaway, Chaffey, Staff - they must have been reasonably paid. Were they on the veterans list or something? No doubt Rodan isn't on much.

I assume Tuck, Deledio, Raines got a pay rise but was that enough to put cap pressure on us?

Any players moving into veterans list? - Gas?

 

[MTBTYT]

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Why is our budget so tight this year.
Kellaway, Chaffey, Staff - they must have been reasonably paid. Were they on the veterans list or something? No doubt Rodan isn't on much.

I assume Tuck, Deledio, Raines got a pay rise but was that enough to put cap pressure on us?

Any players moving into veterans list? - Gas?

Budget not Cap. The Tiger are finally becoming fiscally responsible.

 

[footy4eva]

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Why is our budget so tight this year.
Kellaway, Chaffey, Staff - they must have been reasonably paid. Were they on the veterans list or something? No doubt Rodan isn't on much.

I assume Tuck, Deledio, Raines got a pay rise but was that enough to put cap pressure on us?

Any players moving into veterans list? - Gas?

raines, polo, lids, bling, meyer, pattison, all renewed contracts this yr, an much more than their previous contracts

 

[Wally07]

What this statement says to me is that Miller got the job done then wallace said you are not allowed to trade the early picks. happened last year with Fevola.

Why do we continually have to look at next year. Why give a sh*t. Decisions should be based on the next 5 years not just a short term remedy to the problem. That short term thinking is why we haven't made the finals since 2001 and have only made twice in over 20 years. Lets get a couple of drafts picks and groom them for the backline.

 

[Booms]

Ppl stop believing every word Miller or the media spits out!! This trade will happen friday i guarantee u. Richmond are waiting for the Tarrant deal and for the dockers to get desperate. They wont lose Polak for nothing and Carlton wont give up anything knowing he would be theres if no trade is done. Miller will wait and wait and wait......1.30 Friday watch for this one to fire up big time. We have the money - thats bluff to trade a player not a pick.

 

[astro_toby]

Miller will wait and wait and wait......1.30 Friday watch for this one to fire up big time. We have the money - thats bluff to trade a player not a pick.

that is a great point - very interesing indeed