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[Chewy316]

Adelaide and South Australia being a horrible place to live compared to other capital cities and states is the biggest myth ever.


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I've lived in Melbourne and Sydney and neither hold a candle to Adelaide in terms of livability. Nothing is easy to get to in Melbourne, and even getting a park in inner suburban shopping districts are near impossible to find on a weekend. Sydney is a bit easier to get around but is just so spacious that going anywhere is a true day trip. If you have lots of money Sydney imo would be the best place to live but there is something incredibly comfortable and convenient about living in Adelaide that can't be replicated elsewhere.

 

[snozulu]

Is Mead still out of contract?

 

[RossFC]

Is Mead still out of contract?

Only Lycett, Hayes and Fantasia are.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Soon Victoria will be only Melbourne.

 

[PortVic]

I wonder if Duursma would consider Melbourne?

He'd be a good fit there.

Duursma and 25 for Petty would have to go pretty close.

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If rumours are true about Hunter being a bad influence on Oliver, this makes even more sense.

 

[philthy05]

The whole city x is the best city is quite absurd.

Whichever city you live in you can find something to like about it.

Really it’s not at all apples and oranges. Life is pretty much the same.

For most where they enjoy living will be where they grew up cause that’s where their family and friends are.



I’ve had to move for work and I quite enjoy Sydney but miss family and friends. I find there’s more happening and more to do here but it’s not like that substantial and it’s not like i didn’t have plenty of things to do when I was in Adelaide.

The whole traffic thing in Sydney is weird. Like I commonly see bad traffic, but I’ve been here something like 3 years and I barely get caught in traffic at all. My commutes to work (working at different locations) have commonly been shorter than the commutes I’ve had back in Adelaide.

The last time I was in Adelaide the distance and time spent driving around shit me to tears.

Driving from point a to point b in Adelaide can take a frustrating amount of time because of the distances and shit arterial roads.

There’s this Adelaide belief about how well laid out the city is but beyond that it’s a ****ing mess. Live somewhere else and it grinds your gears coming back. Just a handful of main arterial roads directing traffic in each direction where you have to stop at traffic lights every 50m. It would be so easy to fix as well but “we’re not Sydney we don’t need to spend money on roads infrastructure” mentality.


Having said that I’ve lived in cool places to live In Sydney and cool places to live in Adelaide

I think it would be horrible to live in bum**** suburbia of Sydney. They are miles away and traffic can be much worse surprisingly than inner Sydney. All the negatives of Sydney and few of the positives.

Same for Adelaide, my view of living in Adelaide would be much worse living in bum**** Adelaide suburbia. Tho at least it’s cheaper than bum**** Sydney (but getting worse and worse all the time)

 

[Bevoman]

Perth has some really big Deli’s.

I am not bagging Adelaide as a place to live or grow up.
I am saying it does not have the appeal factor to a young footballer who does not know Adelaide; and therefore, is not as attractive as say living in Queensland. Where both the Crows and us acknowledge this and the go home factor by having a strategy of trading home ex-pats.

Recent trade examples include:
Crows: 2022 Rankin 2021 Dawson (tried to get Grundy when he left the Pies for the Dees).
Port: 2022 JHF & Rioli 2021 Finlayson 2020 Aliir & Fanta
(where Jeremy’s wife is from SA & and sadly, Rioli's SA connection was his NT mum was a regular to a hospital in Adelaide).

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Gotta say last years trade period was far more interesting. JHF and Rioli were at least good players

This year we have to deal with Essendon and the new Essendon (Geelong) all to get a couple of SANFL players

 

[Port01]

Unfortunately we perpetuate the undesirable place to play football narrative with all our little suburban club rubbish excuses we trot out.

 

[Powerage]

When I lived in Adeliade it was far from an excitement town, shopping hours were backward albeit I believe it has improved but it would struggle to match the retail industry and work hours of say, Melbourne; for example, Chadstone is the biggest shopping centre in the Southern hemisphere and stays open 24/ 7 leading up to Xmas. Where quite often rush hour is 3:00 AM.

And that's OK, Adelaide is not a horrible place to live but is does not offer the same opportunities, glamour & glitz of other cities for footballers who may be contemplating a trade to the city-of-churches. Where both the Crows and Port tend to focus on ex-pats returning home as their best trade potentials.

I had thought we had a hometown advantage with Grundy but in fact it was not as his wife was adamant she would not work in Adelaide. Where she saw more opportunities for her medical career in Sydney; oh, well, the CHO of SA did announce Covid was transferable from a Pizza Box.

We build nuclear submarines

 

[backtozero]

24/7 shopping centres when you can just buy things online sounds unnecessary and hardly a selling point.

I dunno, I just think Sydney and Melbourne are a bit overrated. Great for a weekend but Adelaide would be a better place to live and raise a family in my opinion. Maybe not as much for a young single bloke that wants to party and go shopping at 3am I guess.

Do Sydney still have those ridiculous lock out hours for pubs? Last couple of times I've been there to see bands I ended up regretting not travelling somewhere else. Also the locals seem to think it's shit.

 

[1954]

The one thing I will agree with re Adelaide not being up to par is the percentage of god awful drivers we have here.
I have done a fair bit driving in every state and capital city except WA, and I believe you will still see more of the absolutely no idea types here than anywhere else.

As recently as friday morning in a shopping centre in Warradale I spent the better part of 5 minutes waiting for an early 30's at most female to drive through a gap between parked cars on her right and a delivery truck which was parked length ways on her left and with a clear gap of at least a metre on each side of the exterior mirrors of her late model Kia.
With the truck driver walking in front of her and beckoning her through she stopped 3 or 4 times, and I heard her say to him `I'm not sure, I'm not sure!'

There were about 6 cars held up behind her and when she finally got through, the next vehicle which was driven by a white haired woman who looked to be 80'ish, and appeared completely unimpressed with the situation went straight through the same gap without hesitation, as did all of the other vehicles.

A bloke who was loading his shopping into the boot of his car which was next to mine said to me, `how could she have possibly passed a driving test?'
Food for thought indeed because from what I saw you definitely wouldn't want her anywhere near your kid's school.

 

[cosmicwinduptoy]

The one thing I will agree with re Adelaide not being up to par is the percentage of god awful drivers we have here.
I have done a fair bit driving in every state and capital city except WA, and I believe you will still see more of the absolutely no idea types here than anywhere else.

As recently as friday morning in a shopping centre in Warradale I spent the better part of 5 minutes waiting for an early 30's at most female to drive through a gap between parked cars on her right and a delivery truck which was parked length ways on her left and with a clear gap of at least a metre on each side of the exterior mirrors of her late model Kia.
With the truck driver walking in front of her and beckoning her through she stopped 3 or 4 times, and I heard her say to him `I'm not sure, I'm not sure!'

There were about 6 cars held up behind her and when she finally got through, the next vehicle which was driven by a white haired woman who looked to be 80'ish, and appeared completely unimpressed with the situation went straight through the same gap without hesitation, as did all of the other vehicles.

A bloke who was loading his shopping into the boot of his car which was next to mine said to me, `how could she have possibly passed a driving test?'
Food for thought indeed because from what I saw you definitely wouldn't want her anywhere near your kid's school.

This is completely subjective. You'll find people that say the opposite is true. I know some.

 

[Econopower]

I’ve lived in Adelaide, Sydney, Canberra, London, Washington DC, New York and Edinburgh.

All were great in their own ways.

Preferences ultimately come down to what one wants from the environment they live in and whether one has the means to pursue it.

Adelaide and Edinburgh are easier places to live a good life without having a great deal of money.

But both also lack the dynamism, cultural and work opportunities of more ‘global’ cities if that is valuable to you.

London and Paris are artistically stimulating but again, that isn’t so valuable if you don’t enjoy those pursuits.

I’m living in Sydney now, predominantly because I can’t really pursue my profession in Adelaide, but then also because my wife’s parents are from here.

As others have observed, it’s virtues are much harder to access without a good income.

I would be more than happy to live in Adelaide again, even if I’m not sure it will happen.

The aspect that would make me most nervous is the insularity, or at least my perception of it.

Adelaide is a great place but I don’t think I’ve lived anywhere where so many people (friends, family, strangers) want to tell me how great it is, including those who have never lived anywhere else.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Interesting to read that some of the trade managers are frustrated with Port's lack of urgency. Sounds like we are putting our offers there and leaving it with them. The other clubs froth and get the Vic media to do their negotiating and Port stay silent.

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

Interesting to read that some of the trade managers are frustrated with Port's lack of urgency. Sounds like we are putting our offers there and leaving it with them. The other clubs froth and get the Vic media to do their negotiating and Port stay silent.

I like the sound of that this year.

 

[240volt]

The whole city x is the best city is quite absurd.

Whichever city you live in you can find something to like about it.

Really it’s not at all apples and oranges. Life is pretty much the same.

For most where they enjoy living will be where they grew up cause that’s where their family and friends are.



I’ve had to move for work and I quite enjoy Sydney but miss family and friends. I find there’s more happening and more to do here but it’s not like that substantial and it’s not like i didn’t have plenty of things to do when I was in Adelaide.

The whole traffic thing in Sydney is weird. Like I commonly see bad traffic, but I’ve been here something like 3 years and I barely get caught in traffic at all. My commutes to work (working at different locations) have commonly been shorter than the commutes I’ve had back in Adelaide.

The last time I was in Adelaide the distance and time spent driving around s**t me to tears.

Driving from point a to point b in Adelaide can take a frustrating amount of time because of the distances and s**t arterial roads.

There’s this Adelaide belief about how well laid out the city is but beyond that it’s a ******* mess. Live somewhere else and it grinds your gears coming back. Just a handful of main arterial roads directing traffic in each direction where you have to stop at traffic lights every 50m. It would be so easy to fix as well but “we’re not Sydney we don’t need to spend money on roads infrastructure” mentality.


Having said that I’ve lived in cool places to live In Sydney and cool places to live in Adelaide

I think it would be horrible to live in bum* suburbia of Sydney. They are miles away and traffic can be much worse surprisingly than inner Sydney. All the negatives of Sydney and few of the positives.

Same for Adelaide, my view of living in Adelaide would be much worse living in bum* Adelaide suburbia. Tho at least it’s cheaper than bum* Sydney (but getting worse and worse all the time)

It’s like most places all depends on what suburb you’re living in.
If you’re living close to the water it has a lot of benefits.
North of places like Adelaide and Perth are not the best especially with the heat.
I must say two things I don’t miss about Adelaide compared to Perth is dust storms and that super hot north wind you get in summer.
In saying that Adelaide as a city is very easy to get around, no car needed unlike Perth.

 

[240volt]

Interesting to read that some of the trade managers are frustrated with Port's lack of urgency. Sounds like we are putting our offers there and leaving it with them. The other clubs froth and get the Vic media to do their negotiating and Port stay silent.

We can only offer so much, there is a definite push to get every last drop of blood out of Port.

 

[PJ Power]

Interesting to read that some of the trade managers are frustrated with Port's lack of urgency. Sounds like we are putting our offers there and leaving it with them. The other clubs froth and get the Vic media to do their negotiating and Port stay silent.

Yep. Why should we be urgent? If we can guarantee these players that at worst we will pick them up in the ND with the picks that we already offered, there really should be no pressure on us to give up more to get them. Any fair and reasonable football observer would agree that pick 25 for Ratugolea is MORE than fair, as is pick 41 (or thereabouts) for BZT and 49 for Sweet. As far as I'm concerned we can use those picks to get these guys in the ND without rewarding their respective teams for trying to bend us over.

If we hold on to Duursma for an extra year because we couldn't get adequate return for him, then so be it.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Witness Vic media doing Vic clubs negotiating

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Interesting to read that some of the trade managers are frustrated with Port's lack of urgency. Sounds like we are putting our offers there and leaving it with them. The other clubs froth and get the Vic media to do their negotiating and Port stay silent.

In other words:
“Why arent port giving us a first rounder or multiple picks for ___ insert average SANFL player”

 

[Ford Fairlane]

In other words:
“Why are port giving us a first rounder or multiple picks for ___ insert average SANFL player”

By are do you mean aren't?

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Witness Vic media doing Vic clubs negotiating

Pick 41 for Sweet

 

[PJ Power]

As others have said, where was this narrative when Hombsch, Young, Ryder and others left us?

 

[Ford Fairlane]