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[Trigger13]

Bergman will land them a mid-late first in a 3-team deal

That plus the 2026 1st would be enough for NWM I think. Though as good as NWM is, I’m not sure he’s worth Bergman AND a first

I would happily pay Bergman and a first for him. He really is that good.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Ideally they lose these players, don't get Wanganeen-Milera and have to go to the draft, that's preferable.

Yep, which is basically their 2024 off-season 2.0

Not sure it’ll happen again as last off-season was basically all-time bad for them, but it’d be funny

 

[Danger in Texas]

I would happily pay Bergman and a first for him. He really is that good.

Bergman is very good, too. Not the offensive weapon that NWM is, but is a great two-way defender

Ultimately, Port would have to weaken their 22 to get him more than we would have to

 

[Samcro24]

Port will do their usual thing. Best 22 player out for a shiny new toy. Destination club.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Don’t we have access to a NGA small forward?

Yes but his draft year is 2026

 

[Jarman3]

I posted this article a while ago when I heard we had interest

Wanganeen-Milera embraces the pressure of footy world

Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera's short career has not been weighed down by carrying the heaviest of burdens from an Aboriginal footy legacy growing on his back.There's Terry Milera, his once-St Kilda playing...

nit.com.au

Narangga is also the family namesake's link to Adelaide's Wayne Milera, a distant cousin of sorts a few times removed, but Wanganeen-Milera is a bit unsure how but is related "somewhere down in our blood".

Sounds like they're pretty close, we'd better start moving players numbers around so they can have lockers next to each other.

 

[119others]

Top 10 ish crows players rating (apologies if posted already) of the 700 ish total players listed. Top 10 overall in the AFL led by Cripps 95 and players tied for 7-11th had a 91 ranking.

Expecting TT to shoot up this year.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/ultimate-player-ratings-2025-glenn-mcfarlane-and-jon-ralph-rate-every-afl-player/news-story/6ce9783ed271c8f1f54b211a34fbeb54

Izak Rankine
88
C’mon Izak, show us what you’ve really got! You can – and should be – the top ranked player on Adelaide’s list. Last year was a ‘hamburger with the lot season’ – 15 games, 29 goals, the sublimely good (elite for disposals, goals and forward 50 ground ball gets) mixed in with a hamstring that briefly halted a spectacular shift to the midfield, a four-game suspension and a last round concussion. Imagine if this bloke could play an uninterrupted season. 2024 rating: 84

Jordan Dawson
87
The skipper could hardly have done more for the Crows since returning home from Sydney … but he desperately needs help. He won back to back club championship awards (shared last year with Ben Keays), averaging 25 disposals, while leading the club in tackles and inside 50s, and second in disposals. Ranked below average in clearances and contested possessions. Says he feels he can be even better – and stronger – going forward. 2024 rating: 89

Jake Soligo
79
What a breakout season it was from the 22-year-old who is still scratching the surface of where he can potentially end up. He’s not a highlights reel player (ala Rankine and Rachele) but he is a fire and brimstone midfielder who gets the job with blunt strength and determination. Third in the B&F. Needs to hone some of his kicking efficiency (55%) and his cleanness but he just tries his heart out. 2024 rating: 63

Darcy Fogarty
78
This can’t be Taylor Walker’s forward line anymore; it must be shaped around Darcy Fogarty, who signed a deal last October that runs through until the end of the 2031 season. He booted a pinpoint 41.16 to end Walker’s stranglehold on the goalkicking award last year and rating elite for one-on-one efforts and above average for accuracy, forward 50 ground ball gets and disposals. Back him in! 2024 rating: 70

Ben Keays
78
From rookie elevation after being delisted by the Lions to joint best and fairest winner … it’s been some sort of elevation from the hard-working, versatile Keays. He is now one of the Crows most important players. If you ever needed a reminder, just go back and watch the visions of his five-goal haul (34 for the season) against Essendon last year. 2024 rating: 68

Alex Neal-Bullen
77
Our colleague Matt Turner says the Demons premiership player’s immediate impact at the Crows will see him elevated to the leadership group in year one. Durable pressure forward who rates elite in contested possessions. Doesn’t kick a lot of goals but creates plenty, and his experience and follow-me approach will be invaluable for the young Crows. 2024 rating: 69

Rory Laird
76
Uber-consistent veteran who has trained all season in a half-back role which could give the 31-year-old a new lease of life. The generational change to the Crows engine room will see him released to a new role but he can be just as effective as a rebounding defender who has an uncanny knack of finding the footy (he has racked up 600 or more disposals in seven of the past eight seasons). Could be a dangerous distributor. 2024 rating: 85

Max Michalanney
75
The first round father-son pick from the 2022 draft looks a generational key defender for the Crows – off the back of only two seasons. He has only missed one of Adelaide’s past 46 games (due to soreness) and has shown maturity beyond his years (he turns 21 on February 26) playing on talls and smalls. Averages 15 disposals and five marks per game, he rates above average for pressure and intercept marks. 2024 rating: 61

James Peatling
75
If resilience and toughness have been the Crows’ midfield Achilles heel in recent years, the former Giant could address part of that. He quelled Errol Gulden in the first three quarters of last year’s qualifying final, and can play lockdown roles. He will be a Crows’ starting midfielder, which wasn’t always the case with the Giants (seven times as the sub in 2024). 2024 rating: 41

Josh Rachele
74
Which Rachele will the Crows get in 2025? The silky-smooth talent who can turn a contest on a dime and slot home goals with consummate ease? Or the flashy individual who at times can be polarising to his coaches and teammates? We hope the former. He was dropped in the final round – a Matthew Nicks statement – and hopefully he has learnt from that. Kicked 30.17 from 22 games and was seventh in the B&F. This rating should be 80 at season’s end. 2024 rating: 75

Riley Thilthorpe
74
It’s time to swiftly buy shares in the one-time No.2 draft pick. He looks primed to stamp his authority – and his hulking presence – on the game now. Coming off a preseason knee issue last year, he returned for the last seven games, kicking 15.7, and rating elite for F50 marks and one-on-ones. Still 22, he could take some games by the scruff of the neck this season. 2024 rating: 65

 

[Chezzel]

Not a bad idea signed ROB for 2 more. Doesn’t mean he’s the number one ruck for the next 3 years, and we should still and will still go after another ruck, but it just means if we get someone better we at least know we have a ready man ruck that can play running around in the 2’s rather than having to use ruckman that aren’t of afl standard. In saying that, I’m optimistic to what McAndrew can do and Toby Murray seems to be working his way up. And tbh Fog and Curtain forward, this is an unpopular opinion but I would love to see Thilthorpe go beast mode in the ruck. Glass half full about our ruck situation.


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[Mutineer]

Not a bad idea signed ROB for 2 more. Doesn’t mean he’s the number one ruck for the next 3 years, and we should still and will still go after another ruck, but it just means if we get someone better we at least know we have a ready man ruck that can play running around in the 2’s rather than having to use ruckman that aren’t of afl standard. In saying that, I’m optimistic to what McAndrew can do and Toby Murray seems to be working his way up. And tbh Fog and Curtain forward, this is an unpopular opinion but I would love to see Thilthorpe go beast mode in the ruck. Glass half full about our ruck situation.


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You donm't use what was virtually pick 1 on a ruckman...

 

[Mostyn]

You donm't use what was virtually pick 1 on a ruckman...

Depends.

If he's able to work as a midfielder around the ground, he could have an incredible impact.

You worry about what you lose trying that, though.

 

[Mutineer]

Might be time to start focusing on and putting some serious feelers out for Brisbane's SA/WWT Forward/Ruck Henry Smith (contracted 2026) given even though Joe Daniher is gone and Chris Fagan seems to still prefer the fast approaching 32 yo Darcy Fort? All the hard work development already done?

 

[1990crow]

Might be time to start focusing on and putting some serious feelers out for Brisbane's SA/WWT Forward/Ruck Henry Smith (contracted 2026) given even though Joe Daniher is gone and Chris Fagan seems to still prefer the fast approaching 32 yo Darcy Fort? All the hard work development already done?

Yes

 

[Amacca 23]

I said this weeks ago

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[Mutineer]

Yes
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Hard to work out why Fagan is persevering with both Fort as back up ruck/depth and Sam Day as KPF back up/depth when they've put 4 years into Henry Smith's development who was a 70kg beanpole Forward/ruck when they drafted him and last year weighed in at 98kg and looks even bigger this season.

 

[1990crow]

Hard to work out why Fagan is persevering with both Fort as back up ruck/depth and Sam Day as KPF back up/depth when they've put 4 years into Henry Smith's development who was a 70kg beanpole Forward/ruck when they drafted him and last year weighed in at 98kg and looks even bigger this season.

They probably want as much experience as possible to counter the loss of Daniher.

 

[rabidcrow]

Possibly, but St Kilda would want two first round picks at a minimum. Bergman is a solid player, but would that net them a top 10 pick?

Can trade two years ahead with future picks from this year?


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[dogs105]

I reckon Henry Smith from Brisbane is one we should be keeping an eye on.

 

[Orange crush]

Very early, but initial assessment of your new GWS boys? Worth it?

 

[Sizzlepack]

Very early, but initial assessment of your new GWS boys? Worth it?

Both good additions. I suspect Peatling will be the better long-term pick, I really like his defensive contested work and his agility. Could add some polish but he'll fit great in the middle. I don't think Cumming moves the needle as much, but his size should see him become an important down-the-line outlet and a good spare in d50.

 

[Orange crush]

Both good additions. I suspect Peatling will be the better long-term pick, I really like his defensive contested work and his agility. Could add some polish but he'll fit great in the middle. I don't think Cumming moves the needle as much, but his size should see him become an important down-the-line outlet and a good spare in d50.

Pearling is a scrapper … doubt you’ll be able to polish him up too much but he gives real effort

 

[Mutineer]

I reckon Henry Smith from Brisbane is one we should be keeping an eye on.

VFL Match Report: Strong Showing from Lions in Final VFL Pre-Season Hitout

The Brisbane Lions VFL side have made a strong statement to the rest of the competition downing the Gold Coast SUNS by 34 points at Brighton Homes Arena this afternoon.

www.lions.com.au

 

[skam85]

Anyone heard of this Henry Smith kid at Bris? Apparently he's a handy future ruckman we should look at bringing over.

 

[Mutineer]

Anyone heard of this Henry Smith kid at Bris? Apparently he's a handy future ruckman we should look at bringing over.

Had a restricted preseason due to shoulder surgery hence why he wasn't up for selection in round 1 apparently.

Was in their bests in the VFL trial game against the Suns last week.

 

[Chezzel]

Thilthorpe in the middle looked good on the weekend… I don’t expect people to think the same but I like him in the ruck [emoji23]


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[GreyCrow]

Thilthorpe in the middle looked good on the weekend… I don’t expect people to think the same but I like him in the ruck [emoji23]


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I felt this was part of a mixed strategy

Getting Thilly in the middle ( RoB on the pine) allowed Curtin to sit in the middle of Tex and Fogarty in the forward area

I thought it was interesting and wonder how long this will happen given RoBs supposed endurance - or again it could be a long term keep RoB fresh while working RT into the game