News Lower Delisted

[Nickos66]

One thing I would bet on is, if Stephen Hill, Danyle Pearce , Morabito or even Josh Simpson get the ball , Nick Lower won't catch them. All those players I've named there are 80 metre players, while Nick Lower is 40 metres off the boot.

late edit : Come to think of it , there isn't many players in the Freo side he could catch.

They've gotta get the ball first before they're at risk of being caught. Different roles, not sure why they're being compared to Lower.

 

[Taylor]

Nick Lower could have been our version of Matt Priddis, but we have David Mundy and Michael Barlow to do that instead.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

I was agreeing with your last sentence. My way of saying that I had nothing further to add to your reasoned argument. Would you like me to add something?

No , It wasn't clear if you were agreeing with me or agreeing with others who disagreed.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Nick Lower could have been our version of Matt Priddis, but we have David Mundy and Michael Barlow to do that instead.

And Morabito and Danyle Pearce and Lachie Neale and Matt Deboer.
Keeping Nick would have been a waste of his and our time.

 

[valkorum]

Nick Lower could have been our version of Matt Priddis, but we have David Mundy and Michael Barlow who are both better than Priddis, to do that instead.

EFA

 

[paul8241]

Nick Lower could have been our version of Matt Priddis, but we have David Mundy and Michael Barlow to do that instead.

Agree, however mundy has excellent skills as an outside midfielder, a set up player. Lower is a pitbull and where he lack kicking penetration, he makes up for it with tackling pressure, handballing and courage.

Not saying that he's ahead of Mundy, but a lot of mundy's talents are wasted as an inside midfielder.

 

[Taylor]

Agree, however mundy has excellent skills as an outside midfielder, a set up player. Lower is a pitbull and where he lack kicking penetration, he makes up for it with tackling pressure, handballing and courage.

Not saying that he's ahead of Mundy, but a lot of mundy's talents are wasted as an inside midfielder.

I agree that Mundy is a fantastic set up player, but I can't see him ever being an effective outside midfielder. He just isn't fast enough. His main weapons are his reading of the ball in congestion and his right foot. That doesn't make him an average player, Scott Pendlebury is exactly the same (tall, average pace, good to great disposal).

If I was coaching against Fremantle;
Lower inside, I wouldn't tag. Mundy outside, I could tag out of the game with a speedy runner, Jordie McKensie could do that job. Fremantle win plenty of ball in the middle but a floating man in defense will scoop up most of the average delivery. Mundy would get less than 15 touches.

As far as Mundy vs Lower goes, Mundy is the upgrade of Lower.

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

One thing I would bet on is, if Stephen Hill, Danyle Pearce , Morabito or even Josh Simpson get the ball , Nick Lower won't catch them. All those players I've named there are 80 metre players, while Nick Lower is 40 metres off the boot.

late edit : Come to think of it , there isn't many players in the Freo side he could catch.

I'd counter that by saying if it came down to a hard ball get, I'd back lower to beat any of those players 100 times out of 100. Lower has a different purpose to them though

Matt de Boer might want to disagree with you on that point.

Well, 2 of our 3 toughest and most committed players, hard to pick out of the three who the toughest is. If i had to chose I'd say lower... But that is mainly based on deboers opinion that nick is the toughest player he has ever seen

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

And Morabito and Danyle Pearce and Lachie Neale and Matt Deboer.
Keeping Nick would have been a waste of his and our time.

It only would have been a waste of time if the last picked player we get this year becomes better than him, that is what depth is. I highly doubt whoever we pick with our last rookie pick will offer more than lower. I'm
Not sure that some of our listed players will either

 

[Scham]

I'd counter that by saying if it came down to a hard ball get, I'd back lower to beat any of those players 100 times out of 100.

And 40 times out of 100 Lower would give away a needless free kick by being over zealous and/or just plain dumb in the contest. Of the other 60 contests he'd turn the ball over by hand or foot 50 times. So we'd end up with the ball 90 times out of 100 in any case. Effectiveness is really underrated in modern footy. You need to look at the whole package when assessing a players value.

 

[magnus34]

One thing I would bet on is, if Stephen Hill, Danyle Pearce , Morabito or even Josh Simpson get the ball , Nick Lower won't catch them. All those players I've named there are 80 metre players, while Nick Lower is 40 metres off the boot.

late edit : Come to think of it , there isn't many players in the Freo side he could catch.

you can bet that if one of those guys and Lower were going for a loose ball... Lower would get the ball...
in fact if all of them were in the same loose ball scrimmage with Lower now wearing a Bulldogs jersey, Lower would still get the ball.

 

[apuchar]

He wanted to play regularly at the top level not be depth at Freo. He isn't a WA boy so there was no incentive to stay. He did what was best for himself, so one of the young boys will just have to step up incase of injury. I still believe as a clearance player alone he is the best Freo had. Overall, his game falls behind our best.

 

[paul8241]

It only would have been a waste of time if the last picked player we get this year becomes better than him, that is what depth is. I highly doubt whoever we pick with our last rookie pick will offer more than lower. I'm
Not sure that some of our listed players will either

I think they'll be a key position player that we delist at years end in any case. At least with Lower we knew he would not take a backward step, and would square up with opposition thugs that target our little blokes. He would also sheppard for the runners. There is some inside work where Lower was an upgrade on Mundy.

 

[bontshow]

Hi Freo

Electric was saying to me on another forum that Lower is slow. Didn't he used to play on small forwards though?

Your thoughts?

 

[greatgatsby]

Nick certainly seems to have become a better player since he left! I'm confident RTB didn't let go a hard as nails clearance machine without some thought about what he has to work with at the club. Have some faith people.

 

[paul8241]

Hi Freo

Electric was saying to me on another forum that Lower is slow. Didn't he used to play on small forwards though?

Your thoughts?

wasted in the backline, he's not one of the quickest players, so small forwards can get a break on him. But he is an excellent inside midfielder and lacks nothing in courage and committment.

Your coach knows his strengths, you'll enjoy watching him going in hard.

 

[apuchar]

Hi Freo

Electric was saying to me on another forum that Lower is slow. Didn't he used to play on small forwards though?

Your thoughts?

He's not that slow. His disposal is just untidy at times. I just don't think having Barlow and Lower in the same team at Subiaco really works. If it doesn't he would have been depth at Freo.
His is a regular goal kicker and tough as. He will be good for your young team.
He did play half back for Port but plays better as a midfielder. I watched an old game of his the other night and he had an excellent game at half forward. We have about six million players to play there though.

 

[magnus34]

He wanted to play regularly at the top level not be depth at Freo. He isn't a WA boy so there was no incentive to stay. He did what was best for himself, so one of the young boys will just have to step up incase of injury. I still believe as a clearance player alone he is the best Freo had. Overall, his game falls behind our best.

He left because they delisted him

 

[apuchar]

He left because they delisted him

We had already promised to re-recruit him. He chose to leave and play for the bulldogs instead.

 

[paul8241]

We had already promised to re-recruit him. He chose to leave and play for the bulldogs instead.

They wanted him shifted to the rookie list as injury depth. Can't blame him for leaving, want better job security which only comes with opportunity.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Hi Freo

Electric was saying to me on another forum that Lower is slow. Didn't he used to play on small forwards though?

Your thoughts?

Don't get over excited about Nick.
He isn't a spud that's for sure but he is not a high talent player. A satisfactory toiler who gets a lot of ball.

 

[apuchar]

They wanted him shifted to the rookie list as injury depth. Can't blame him for leaving, want better job security which only comes with opportunity.

Agree. It was a good move on his behalf.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

He left because they delisted him

And they delisted him because there are 30 players ahead of him now.

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

And they delisted him because there are 30 players ahead of him now.

He was still better than 11 other players though I guess which is my point. He was a very handy depth player.

Anyway, it's done, I'm upset about it, but unfortunately like so many other decisions that are made, I just have to accept it. Thank Christ I like the chevron jumpers

 

[magnus34]

And they delisted him because there are 30 players ahead of him now.

and I guess you think they traded Broughts cause he was worth pick 37?