Luke Ball - Hamstring?

[HoldenMCaulfield]

And "average player" = Aaron Fiora? (Not putting words in your mouth, Tas, just thought I'd ask the general group...)

Come on, Percy, give him a break...

 

[TassieSaint]

And "average player" = Aaron Fiora? (Not putting words in your mouth, Tas, just thought I'd ask the general group...)

Not quite sure what you're getting at there mate?

 

[Signd Sealed Saint]

on Finey's program jus heard that Ball is out for 3.

 

[Rooney]

on Finey's program jus heard that Ball is out for 3.

Three weeks is good news I think

When I saw it I thought he must have totally snapped it and he'd be done until next year.

(if I had stretched my leg that far in .1 of a second it my hammy would have snapped... good thing elite athletes are a bit more flexible!)

 

[Squizz]

Peter Larkins has indicated that a strain in the "belly" of the muscle is serious enough. May be a lengthy lay-off for Bally.

Someone said Max will come in? Would be a miracle recovery from a calf injury sustained interstate (so doubt it).

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Peter Larkins has indicated that a strain in the "belly" of the muscle is serious enough. May be a lengthy lay-off for Bally.

Someone said Max will come in? Would be a miracle recovery from a calf injury sustained interstate (so doubt it).

Doh - He was put down for one week, but I forgot it was a Lyon week.
1 Lyon week = 3-4 Human weeks.

 

[Persevering Saint]

Doh - He was put down for one week, but I forgot it was a Lyon week.
1 Lyon week = 3-4 Human weeks.

Golden.

 

[Squizz]

Can we have a Q&A on Ross?

Favourite Song : "Would I lie to you" (The Eurythmics)

 

[Persevering Saint]

This just in from the Hun:

Luke Ball exit close call for St Kilda


Mark Stevens | August 05, 2008 12:00am

QUICK-thinking medical staff saved St Kilda from embarrassment, and possible defeat, in the moments after Luke Ball was injured on Sunday.


Ball tore his hamstring deep in time-on in the final term, and it is believed some players were urging staff to quickly help the midfielder over the boundary line in the Saints' forward line.
But the staff were sharp enough to realise that under new rules, implemented mid-season, all players must now leave the playing surface through the interchange gates.
In the past, a replacement could enter the field of play the moment the injured player crossed the boundary anywhere on the ground.
But the rules are far more stringent under the interchange crackdown, and St Kilda would have paid a heavy price had Ball been immediately helped across the boundary.
The ball would have been taken back to the centre and a 50m penalty paid, handing Port Adelaide an almost-certain goal.
It serves as a warning to other clubs coming to grips with the new rules.
Considering the game was in the balance when Ball crashed to the ground, the coaching staff were understandably relieved when the medicos followed new procedures.
There was also some relief at Moorabbin yesterday when scans showed Ball had suffered a routine hamstring injury that will sideline him for two to three weeks.
When coach Ross Lyon fronted the media after the game, confidently predicting Ball had suffered no more than a corked thigh, he had not watched a replay of the brutal collision with Justin Koschitzke.
Once Lyon and his support staff saw the dramatic vision an hour after the game there was more concern.
"Once we saw the footage, we thought, 'OK, this could be interesting," St Kilda football manager Matthew Drain said. "Given we saw how much he extended it, yes, it is a good result.
"Having said that, it would have been better if it was just a corkie."
Although a standard hamstring layoff is three weeks, Drain said there was still a chance he could be back in two. "We don't really know. We'll wait and see," Drain said.
Lenny Hayes suffered from hamstring tightness, but Drain said he would definitely play against Collingwood on Saturday night.
Drain said defender Max Hudghton was also on track to return from a calf injury.
"We're confident he will come up," Drain said.

Not to worry - I'm sure the umpires would not have minded us making this iddy-bitty discretion, given their leniency toward us through the rest of the game...

Oh, and this just in from Ross Lyon: apparently the medicos think Darrell Baldock is a "strong chance" for this week - apparently is responding well to the new conditioning program...

 

[SaintsSeptember]

When Harvey was KO'd it took quite a while to get him off the field.
So the umps did us the favour of playing on ASAP. Leaving us short for several minutes.
Surely they should either :
Stop play so that the change can be made.
Or: Change the interchange laws so that a player acknowleged by the umpire to be injured and not able to play, can be replaced immediately.

 

[HoldenMCaulfield]

As far as I understand the rules, the umpires actually had to re-start the game as :

- Harvey was not bleeding (the blood rule allows for play to be stopped to ensure that the bleeding player can safely leave the field)

- St Kilda did not ask for a stretcher (which would basically have prevented Harvey to come back - the incident was in the third quarter, wasn't it ?).

But I agree that the requirement to bring injured players off the field through the interchange gates just adds to the general flaw of the interchange rule.

 

[Squizz]

Why couldn't we get the stretcher out there quickly.

Sh!ts me no end that being a player short both times (Harvs & Ball - neither we close to the interchange gates) could have cost us the game.

 

[sammm]

Why couldn't we get the stretcher out there quickly.

Sh!ts me no end that being a player short both times (Harvs & Ball - neither we close to the interchange gates) could have cost us the game.

stretchers were not used just in case the palyers could get back quickly.

mandatory 20 minutes on the sidelines if you use the stretcher.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

stretchers were not used just in case the palyers could get back quickly.

mandatory 20 minutes on the sidelines if you use the stretcher.

Sometimes this game has funny rules.

If you were to play it safe you would.
a) Stretcher off an injured player, get a medical assesment , decide whether player could play on.

However the rules encourage.
b) Risk aggrevating any injuries by hobbling off the ground, avoid the stretcher at all costs.

Obviously they are very concerned that giving medical attention to players will cut into the valuable television time.

Having said that , the knock that Harvey took at that time in the quarter , it would have been a stretch of the imagination to think that he could come back on quicker than 20 minutes and they should have used the stretcher. Leg injuries are probably a lot harder to judge.

 

[Squizz]

stretchers were not used just in case the palyers could get back quickly.

mandatory 20 minutes on the sidelines if you use the stretcher.

Bally was never coming back on, and there hardly any time left in the game.

Harvs had concussion, so by the time they do a test I would assume it would be close to 20 min anyway.

Sometimes I just wish the light switch would turn on upstairs for one of the support team.

This issue, the fact we have been penalised for an interchange breach, and twice had 50m penalties for trainer infringements, makes me wonder what's going on.

 

[Squizz]

Some good news :

ST. KILDA’S Luke Ball has said he is on track to return from his hamstring injury in time for the club’s round 22 clash against Essendon.

Ball has missed two weeks with the injury he sustained in the Saints’ round 18 victory over Port Adelaide and will again sit it out this weekend for the crucial match up with fifth-placed Adelaide.

“I’m coming on pretty well,” he said.

“I’ve started running, not very fast yet, but I’ll hopefully build that up today and through the rest of the week. I’m still aiming to be back for round 22 against Essendon.”

Ball admitted that the injury lay off at such a pivotal part of the year had been frustrating.

“I’ve never done a hamstring before so (I don't) know what to expect or how to deal with it. This time of year it’s pretty frustrating to be sitting back and watching.”

The meeting with the Crows at the Telstra Dome is St. Kilda’s last home game of the year on Sunday, and will double as a tribute to Saints veteran Robert Harvey who is due to retire at the end of the season.

But Ball said that the tribute would not detract from the importance of the game itself, nor would the team be using it as a motivational tool.

“That certainly won’t distract him or the players too much," he said.

"It will be business as usual. He announced his retirement two weeks ago and we came out and didn’t play very well against Collingwood so I don’t think we’ll be relying on that to get us going.

"I think all the motivation we need is that it will probably get us a finals' berth if we get the points. That’s all we’ll need.”

 

[_Interpol_]

Some good news :

ST. KILDA’S Luke Ball has said he is on track to return from his hamstring injury in time for the club’s round 22 clash against Essendon.

Ball has missed two weeks with the injury he sustained in the Saints’ round 18 victory over Port Adelaide and will again sit it out this weekend for the crucial match up with fifth-placed Adelaide.

“I’m coming on pretty well,” he said.

“I’ve started running, not very fast yet, but I’ll hopefully build that up today and through the rest of the week. I’m still aiming to be back for round 22 against Essendon.”

Ball admitted that the injury lay off at such a pivotal part of the year had been frustrating.

“I’ve never done a hamstring before so (I don't) know what to expect or how to deal with it. This time of year it’s pretty frustrating to be sitting back and watching.”..

And let's hope they let him get it 100% right before coming coming back - don't want another X on our hands

Love to see bally back round 22, but if we win this this, i'd suggest sitting him out until the first final, let him get it right... He isn't the kind of player that needs or has blistering pace, more grunt, so any loss of speed wont be a problem