Lying Pickering

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Gazza took the money due to his ego, he's only human. I remember reading how gutted he felt when the Catters won the 2011 premiership because he wasn't part of it, that's the best payback the club could've given him. Time to move on.

 

[Seeds]

Well documented that Ablett and Pickering met with GC at the end of the 2009 season and a commitment to move clubs was established. Geelong tried to engage them on numerous occasions in 2010 to negotiate a new contract but were told that they "would look at it at season's end". They had no intention of listening to Geelong. For Pickering to claim otherwise is not just disingenuous but a complete lie. The guy is a bottom feeder who's sole purpose is to convince his client to take the money so he can gain the largest commission possible.

Not sure that is inconsistent with what pickers said. Geelong wanted to negotiate a new contract in 2010, pickers was talking about negotiating the old contract. That would of been around 2008 most likely. Possibly even 2007.

 

[bigblackboz]

I would have left for that kind of coin. No ifs, buts or maybes. It's a shitload and I'd love to have his boat.

However, I think it's classless to come out now and claim Geelong was to blame. It was cash, cash and more cash.

It makes me angry against the whole Ablett camp for them to blame Geelong. Lets not say Ablett has no control over Pickering. Ablett employs Pickering and if he disagrees with those comments he should reprimand Pickering.

I was for him returning but now I'm not sure I want him back even if for free. He should take his boat and shove it up Pickering.

#endrant

 

[Seeds]

Gazza took the money due to his ego, he's only human. I remember reading how gutted he felt when the Catters won the 2011 premiership because he wasn't part of it, that's the best payback the club could've given him. Time to move on.

What has taking money got to do with ego? Staying for less money is an ego thing. Money is rarely about ego.

 

[Seeds]

I would have left for that kind of coin. No ifs, buts or maybes. It's a shitload and I'd love to have his boat.

However, I think it's classless to come out now and claim there was any other reason. It was cash, cash and more cash.

This wasn't Geelong's fault.

He is saying it is about cash though. Just cash during the existing contract and not the future one. And that was a geelong decision. One with costs but a geelong decision none the less.

 

[year of the cat]

Not sure that is inconsistent with what pickers said. Geelong wanted to negotiate a new contract in 2010, pickers was talking about negotiating the old contract. That would of been around 2008 most likely. Possibly even 2007.

So due to Pickering's ineptness in signing Ablett up to a long term deal when he hadn't yet realised his full potential, he (and Ablett) then hold/s it against Geelong for not re-negotiating?

 

[Hinkley29]

I don't know.
Only said mike had been chasing him for ages.

But they don't get paid.
Only Jacko has.

I have no info either way, but I would find it hard to believe that those guys aren't getting paid for those interviews.

Why would anyone air their dirty laundry in such a way if there wasn't a payoff in it for them?

 

[year of the cat]

I have no info either way, but I would find it hard to believe that those guys aren't getting paid for those interviews.

Why would anyone air their dirty laundry in such a way if there wasn't a payoff in it for them?

Pickering wouldn't do anything unless he was remunerated.

 

[vinum coupe]

I have no info either way, but I would find it hard to believe that those guys aren't getting paid for those interviews.

Why would anyone air their dirty laundry in such a way if there wasn't a payoff in it for them?

I've heard it said numerous times by those that were on it that no one gets paid.
I can only assume they've been sold the "contributing to recorded history line'.

Although mike had chased Jacko for years apparently he was pissed off about him being paid.
But fox needed someone for retro round and the decision was made.

 

[Hinkley29]

I've heard it said numerous times by those that were on it that no one gets paid.
I can only assume they've been sold the "contributing to recorded history line'.

Although mike had chased Jacko for years apparently he was pissed off about him being paid.
But fox needed someone for retro round and the decision was made.

If that is true, then Jacko is the only smart person who has ever gone on that show.

 

[Turbocat]

I've heard it said numerous times by those that were on it that no one gets paid.
I can only assume they've been sold the "contributing to recorded history line'.

Although mike had chased Jacko for years apparently he was pissed off about him being paid.
But fox needed someone for retro round and the decision was made.

Not doubting your info but that whole line of not paying for interviews is such a load of codswallop. Why not pay them? Are we saying MS sits there to contribute to history? NO he will be getting a big slice of cake..so why not the the one getting questioned. Foxtel is not doing it to record history..its product..and they make money from product.
Its almost as galling as Lawyers questioning witnesses motives for paid attendance ..as if they are there for just tea and biscuits.

At the minimum..id say I'll do the interview for free...but you are paying X amount to travel etc.. How much is it for a taxi to Melb? A night at the Weston? Meal ?

 

[vinum coupe]

Not doubting your info but that whole line of not paying for interviews is such a load of codswallop. Why not pay them? Are we saying MS sits there to contribute to history? NO he will be getting a big slice of cake..so why not the the one getting questioned. Foxtel is not doing it to record history..its product..and they make money from product.

Oh you bet its product.
But I think they have the model spot on. Mike is probably paid 80k a year. Start paying people 10k and the whole model fails.

 

[jazzee]

So due to Pickering's ineptness in signing Ablett up to a long term deal when he hadn't yet realised his full potential, he (and Ablett) then hold/s it against Geelong for not re-negotiating?

IIRC Pickering wasn't responsible for the 2005 to 2010 deal, he became Ablett's manager later on.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

When is the Pickering interview being aired.

Let's see if he tells the world how the AFL gave Ablett under the table payments to leave.

 

[vinum coupe]

IIRC Pickering wasn't responsible for the 2005 to 2010 deal, he became Ablett's manager later on.

Jess did the contract you are talking about.

And abletts last year was 560k. That came out in court.

 

[vinum coupe]

When is the Pickering interview being aired.

Let's see if he tells the world how the AFL gave Ablett under the table payments to leave.

I can't imagine any manager that's paid 4% bothers with side payments. And considering you weren't even living in the state ............ I call bs.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I can't imagine any manager that's paid 4% bothers with side payments. And considering you weren't even living in the state ............ I call bs.

Just as well I don't value your opinion then.

 

[Turbocat]

Oh you bet its product.
But I think they have the model spot on. Mike is probably paid 80k a year. Start paying people 10k and the whole model fails.

IF the model relies on making money off other peoples stories without recompense its a poor model for mine. .. it would seem its not much different to use of image the AFL player get paid for etc.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Geelong should of changed the contract. Pickers is right. We still would of got unders just not the ridiculous unders we were getting.

Given we could afford to increase Mumfords pay to keep him how the hell were we going to afford GAJ?
People are losing their minds that we moved Chapman and SJ when we did, how would they be reacting if we moved them in the 09/10 offseason?

 

[Boxhead_31]

I can't imagine any manager that's paid 4% bothers with side payments. And considering you weren't even living in the state ............ I call bs.

Pretty sure it's 10% not 4

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

What has taking money got to do with ego? Staying for less money is an ego thing. Money is rarely about ego.

I disagree, people would've been telling him he'd make more money somewhere else, that the cats had no right to under pay a huge star like him, the best player in the league, a champion. That's called stroking a persons ego. I would think knowing you're the best player around, yet excepting less money to stay with your mates would be the opposite of ego in every case.

But I'm only just speaking hypothetically, because like EVERYONE here, I only know the lies told in the media, and besides, what's done is done.

 

[vinum coupe]

Pretty sure it's 10% not 4

It's 4. Some are 6. Most are 4

And I should add, endorsements are 20.

 

[Stucky]

He should have been stripped of his agents licence a long time ago. Have met him once before and would be one of the most deluded humans I have come across.

He probably thought the same thing about you.

Pickering seemed genuine to me, and probably well liked and respected in his circles. Its the people outside his circle that love to take pot shots without knowing him personally or knowing anything about him.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Pickering seemed genuine to me, and probably well liked and respected in his circles. Its the people outside his circle that love to take pot shots without knowing him personally or knowing anything about him.

agreed. I don't mind him at all. I guess he's in the business where there can be blow ups over money etc., so those who don't like him often seem to have an agenda against him they don't reveal. If he's managing 45 people atm, then he must be good at his job.

 

[MelbCat]

He probably thought the same thing about you.

Pickering seemed genuine to me, and probably well liked and respected in his circles. Its the people outside his circle that love to take pot shots without knowing him personally or knowing anything about him.

Genuine? lol Seen the news where he was ordered to pay his former business partner back for the dodgy deals he did behind his back? stealing clients?

Is that you Liam?