Magpies and Blues going cool on Kerr

[Dave The Man]

COLLINGWOOD'S interest in acquiring West Coast star Daniel Kerr has cooled, with the Magpies suggesting that the asking price of two first-round draft picks means they are unlikely to pursue the All-Australian midfielder.
Carlton also has taken a similar view to the Magpies, the Blues keen to build via the draft and believing it will be difficult to satisfy West Coast's demand for two first-round picks.
The Eagles have asked for two picks inside the top 10 or a top-three pick — effectively one of the highly prized West Australian teens Nicholas Natanui or Daniel Rich — in return for Kerr.
Collingwood football operations chief Geoff Walsh said last night that while the club had yet to discuss Kerr with the Eagles, the asking price and the fact that he was contracted meant there was little prospect of the Magpies pursuing him.
"The fact that he's contracted and the speculation that it's going to take two first-round draft choices to move him, makes us think you don't need to go beyond that," he said.
"To be fair, I haven't spoken to anyone directly, but when you're hearing those noises from his management that that's what they're requiring, well then, there's no point going any further."
Carlton football operations manager Steven Icke indicated that the Blues, too, would struggle to satisfy West Coast's demand for two first-round picks.
"If they're still asking for two first rounds, we're cooling on the idea because we haven't got two first-round picks. They (the Eagles) hold the cards at the moment. He is in contract and they don't have to trade him."
Carlton's pursuit of Fremantle ruckman Robert Warnock — who is believed to favour joining the Blues — means they might lose their second pick, No. 24. With the club reluctant to give up both its first and second picks in the last uncompromised draft, Kerr becomes a difficult proposition.
Meanwhile, Collingwood's Ben Johnson has indicated that he wants to remain with the Magpies next season after meeting with the club yesterday.
Johnson, who has been the subject of trade speculation, has been considering his options after finishing an injury-interrupted season in the VFL.
His manager, Paul Connors, said Johnson, twice placed in the top three in the club best and fairest, had told the Magpies he wanted to play with them next season, believing that he could regain fitness and form. Johnson is contracted for 2009.
Collingwood yesterday confirmed the delistings of veteran Brodie Holland, Sam Isles and Chris Egan. Holland has indicated he would like to continue his AFL career.
Captain Scott Burns, Ryan Lonie and Shane Wakelin have all retired.

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[Mars II]

DTM are you on this site 24/7?

 

[Dave The Man]

DTM are you on this site 24/7?

Not Quite but I well be during tafe Holidays between 12:00 to about 1-2 in the Morning

 

[Mars II]

mate i read it on the age and then i was gonna post it here but you beat me to it

 

[DAWESOME!!]

Sanity prevailing - WCE seeking waay too much for a player who is a gun, but comes with onfield discipline and injury concerns, and off-field/attitude question marks.

We could offer our 1st rounder for him with a fringe player, but no more IMO. If that doesn't get it done, then we should let someone else have a go if they want or else see him in Eagles colours again next year.

 

[Stakerz]

Give us Cousins and I will be a very happy man.

I already can't wait for season 2009, with Didak and Shaw coming back, a new captain, Cousins making a comeback with Collingwood.

mannnnnn, hurry up '09'

 

[Keele]

The Eagles have asked for two picks inside the top 10 or a top-three pick — effectively one of the highly prized West Australian teens Nicholas Natanui or Daniel Rich — in return for Kerr.

If we could arrange that then I would sooner the 2 picks inside 10 or number 3 pick... and why not, for it is certainly worth more than Kerr.

 

[well left]

If we could arrange that then I would sooner the 2 picks inside 10 or number 3 pick... and why not, for it is certainly worth more than Kerr.

Exactly right!

 

[15_year_member]

Sanity prevailing - WCE seeking waay too much for a player who is a gun, but comes with onfield discipline and injury concerns, and off-field/attitude question marks.

We could offer our 1st rounder for him with a fringe player, but no more IMO. If that doesn't get it done, then we should let someone else have a go if they want or else see him in Eagles colours again next year.

You think you can get a 25 year old blue chip midfielder that finished top 3 in the brownlow 3 years in a row before this year and is one of the highest paid players in the comp for a draft pick that isn't even in the top 10? I'm sure the eagles will really jump at that offer ... not. Sounds like the Nick Stevens fiasco all over again.

Just out of curiousity what is Didak worth then since would not be rated by any independent observer to be as good or decorated as Kerr? Pick 20 or 25 maybe? Would you be happy with that?

And if Kerr's discipline problems are so bad that you wouldn't want him at your club, Didak's are 10 times worse but you are backpedalling and chickening out of trading him.

 

[well left]

You think you can get a 25 year old blue chip midfielder that finished top 3 in the brownlow 3 years in a row before this year and is one of the highest paid players in the comp for a draft pick that isn't even in the top 10? I'm sure the eagles will really jump at that offer ... not. Sounds like the Nick Stevens fiasco all over again.

Just out of curiousity what is Didak worth then since would not be rated by any independent observer to be as good or decorated as Kerr? Pick 20 or 25 maybe? Would you be happy with that?

And if Kerr's discipline problems are so bad that you wouldn't want him at your club, Didak's are 10 times worse but you are backpedalling and chickening out of trading him.

It's just another case of a player being worth more to his current club than what another club is willing to give up I reckon.

There is no doubt in my mind that Kerr is worth 2 first round picks with one of them being in the top 10. What we have is pick 11 so we would have to do a deal to get a pick in the top 10.

Now to do that we would have to give up something very very valuable to us like a Pendlebury, Didak, Thomas or Nathan Brown.

Two lines of thought here - we are now giving up pick 11 and one of the above for Kerr. As good as Kerr is I think that is probably over the odds.

If we did do the deal though, we are probably better off keeping the two picks in the top 11 ourselves. So either way I look at it getting Kerr is paying too much.

It's not that he is not worth it - we are just not in a position this year to be in the market for him. IMO the only trade would be with Port or Essendon as they have 4 & 5.

 

[daics cousin]

You think you can get a 25 year old blue chip midfielder that finished top 3 in the brownlow 3 years in a row before this year and is one of the highest paid players in the comp for a draft pick that isn't even in the top 10? I'm sure the eagles will really jump at that offer ... not. Sounds like the Nick Stevens fiasco all over again.

Just out of curiousity what is Didak worth then since would not be rated by any independent observer to be as good or decorated as Kerr? Pick 20 or 25 maybe? Would you be happy with that?

And if Kerr's discipline problems are so bad that you wouldn't want him at your club, Didak's are 10 times worse but you are backpedalling and chickening out of trading him.

As scotty burns said in a previous interview,'FOR COLLINGWOOD TO TRADE DIDAK WE WANT A DIDAK IN RETURN".
Players of the calibre of Alan Didak do not come around very often.

A clear difference between Didak and Kerr is this.
Kerr is a gun midfielder,that's it,can't play in another position.

Didak is very good midfielder and a gun forward who could hurt you more on the field.Plus didak can do some miraculous things moving forward.

This is why if Eagles want 2 top 10 picks for Kerr.
Then I would defiantely say that Collingwood will want 2 top 10 picks for didak.Nothing less.But Didak will not get traded.Kerr on the other hand maybe.
Best we could offer for kerr is our first round pick pick 11 and say a Ben Reid(pick 8 in superdraft) with 2 years development,will be a gun next year,has built himself up ,and i have been told that next year he'll win the rising star hands down.
If the eagles are not happy with that then forget kerr and we'll concentrate on COUSINS.

 

[Keele]

It's just another case of a player being worth more to his current club than what another club is willing to give up I reckon.

There is no doubt in my mind that Kerr is worth 2 first round picks with one of them being in the top 10. What we have is pick 11 so we would have to do a deal to get a pick in the top 10.

I agree... Kerr is worth more now trade wise than he will be next year. The Eagles if they want to go for new blood would be foolish not to get what they want and think he is worth and I really feel he is worth more to them than to Collingwood

I feel Collingwood would be just as wise to seek new young talent, for in another 2 years I reckon our core players will be in the experienced stage and age of the likes of Geelong and Hawthorn and our fruits will have ripened and who knows then what talent we have on our hands.

Great times ahead and patience is a virtue

 

[tess]

We have salary cap room so we will need to deal with a bottom 6 club to get at least one top 10 pick if we wanna secure Kerr.

 

[daics cousin]

I believe,yes we should draft afew more kids,and we will,but believe me,the Pies could do with some more experience in this side.

Our problem is not youth we have that in spades,we need 2- 3 gun experienced players to help out the likes of fraser,didak,thomas pendlebury etc.

We desperately lack experience and leadership in this current side,we have an over flow of kids and second tiered players like fraser,didak,davis,Thomas,pendlebury etc.

A few other clubs need to clean more of their lists rhan we do.
Becuase this is l;ast un compromised darft for kids coming up of the course the pies will feature,we need some youth in the midfield we will recruit for thatHowever we also need experience in there too and we will recruit for that too.

Be patient pie eaters.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

And if Kerr's discipline problems are so bad that you wouldn't want him at your club, Didak's are 10 times worse but you are backpedalling and chickening out of trading him.

No, they're not, not even close, not even in the same ballpark/sport/universe.

 

[MarkT]

O’Brien and a draft pick or two might do it. Rusling or Reid to a club for an upgraded draft pick. There are ways and means. We are already making excuses though.

 

[Daicos]

I know I will get shouted down but I would trade Leon Davis and draft pick/fringe player in a heartbeat for Daniel Kerr. People forget how good a player he is. Fit and firing he is easily in the elite midfielders in the competition and this is the exact player we need.

Leon Davis has taken far too long to get to this point and he is just as likely to go back to old ways next season. Trade him whilst we can get a player of Kerr's calibre.

Davis has always wanted to go home as well. Here is his chance.

 

[Keele]

After the comments I heard that Worsfold made today on radio expect something official being announced in the next day or so or even maybe this evening as Kerr will be on 6PR.


Word is he will be staying.

 

[DarkStorm]

Would we look at West for one year to replace the midfield grunt of Burns?

 

[The Royal Sampler]

No. Cousins being added to the list at the age of 30+ is enough.

 

[johnson252525]

Cousins is better than Kerr anyone and whos to say Cousins wont play another 5 years with his fitness?

 

[DarkStorm]

No. Cousins being added to the list at the age of 30+ is enough.

That's not a done deal yet and they are different types anyway.. a line breaker and a grunter.. averaging 27 disposals last year and led the Bulldogs for tackles.. even his 4 games this year he averaged more possessions than anyone at our club bar Swan

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Yeah, but 4 games, at that age... Cousins is historically much more durable than that, so he's much more worthy of a punt in the PSD.

 

[DarkStorm]

Yeah, but 4 games, at that age... Cousins is historically much more durable than that, so he's much more worthy of a punt in the PSD.

I'd say they are both risky as hell in the durability department, West relies less on his speed than Cousins and hammies are a bad one for a line breaker.. anyway they fulfill different roles and if a cheap extractor was required you could do worse than West

 

[herecomesthejudd7]

What about Carlton's chances for Kerr, are they certain to get Warnock

I think they should persist with both and see what happens. They would have the best midfield in the comp if they got Kerr.