Current Major incident at Bondi Junction

[Cuzz09]

I'm glad she killed him as the current idiots in charge would've let him off on some loophole.

Legend!

 

[Del204405]

I don’t often cry but this report is very moving

HERO OF BONDI MASSACRE: ‘I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DIE’

HERO OF BONDI MASSACRE: ‘I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DIE’

todayspaper.theaustralian.com.au

It really shows the heroism of the two French guys. Amy Scott had a gun and she was scared, and these guys had nothing but were still determined to confront him, and they were also determined not to leave her alone. They absolutely deserved the outpouring of love from the public. Bonus points because we Aussies just love someone stopping the bad guy with a random item they've grabbed.

 

[Del204405]

I know there’s only so much you can do to help people, especially if they are not cooperative, but there seem to have been serious misjudgments made by mental health professionals.

Dr Dwyer said the inquest would hear about numerous “missed opportunities” to reintegrate Cauchi into the mental health system after he stopped his medication in 2019.

In late 2019, Cauchi’s mother raised concerns with his private psychiatric clinic that he was hearing voices again and that she had discovered some notes suggesting he believed he was under satanic control. She wanted him to go back on medication, but Cauchi didn’t want to, so his psychiatrist left the decision up to him.

At some point after 2019, Cauchi saw a psychiatrist in an attempt to obtain a gun licence. That psychiatrist determined he was “asymptomatic” and a “fit and proper person to be issued with a weapons licence”, although Cauchi never followed through on it.

KNIFEMAN ‘DID NOT TARGET WOMEN’ IN WESTFIELD ATTACK

KNIFEMAN ‘DID NOT TARGET WOMEN’ IN WESTFIELD ATTACK

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The last part of that is incredibly disturbing.

I don't understand why Cauchi wasn't subject to a compulsory treatment order. I understand that impeding someone's freedom has a high threshold, and we have to be careful to maintain this threshold so it is not something that is abused, especially given the history of repugnant authority behaviour towards those with mental health issues. But it doesn't look like this was even considered.

 

[BFew]

The last part of that is incredibly disturbing.

I don't understand why Cauchi wasn't subject to a compulsory treatment order. I understand that impeding someone's freedom has a high threshold, and we have to be careful to maintain this threshold so it is not something that is abused, especially given the history of repugnant authority behaviour towards those with mental health issues. But it doesn't look like this was even considered.

Each State and Territory does things differently when it comes to these types of mental health orders and their mental health acts and tribunals. That in itself is an issue. They should all be the same Australia wide. And the terminology the same too. Including for things involving AVO's and ADVO's. It's ridiculous the way it is now.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

New footage shows hero cop drawing gun on Bondi killer

New CCTV footage shows the moment hero police officer Amy Scott drew her gun on killer Joel Cauchi amid a stabbing frenzy at Bondi Junction Westfield shopping centre.

thenightly.com.au

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

I mean… how hard is it to hire competent staff? Or to promptly replace a dud?

‘ISSUES’ WITH CCTV STAFF BEFORE ATTACK

‘ISSUES’ WITH CCTV STAFF BEFORE ATTACK

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[Bostonian]

I mean… how hard is it to hire competent staff? Or to promptly replace a dud?

‘ISSUES’ WITH CCTV STAFF BEFORE ATTACK

‘ISSUES’ WITH CCTV STAFF BEFORE ATTACK

todayspaper.theaustralian.com.au

It's actually rather hard.

The security industry struggles a lot to meet the demands and needs for staff.

Control Room is an elective so not everyone who holds a licence can undertake the role.

Add to that it's often low paid work in shotty conditions and it's not like people are flocking to do the role.

A great many of them English won't be their first language

Add to that a great many of the people just mentioned don't give two shits about doing a good job.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

AMBO BREAKS DOWN AT INQUEST

AMBO BREAKS DOWN AT INQUEST

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[Dogs_R_Us]

KILLER UNDER ‘SATANIC CONTROL’

KILLER UNDER ‘SATANIC CONTROL’

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[BFew]

"Do you have any reason to understand why he would have targeted women?"

His father said: "Yes"

Big news today.

At the inquest today, the Psych who treated Joel Cauchi for his illness (Dr A) said that her ex-patient could not have had a psychotic episode at the time of the Bondi Junction Westfields murders, because his psychosis had previously exhibited as extreme disorganisation where he couldn’t put two words together.

Mass murder at Bondi Junction likely due to Joel Cauchi’s ‘sexual frustration and hatred towards women’, inquest told

Former treating psychiatrist suggests if Cauchi was suffering psychotic episode in April 2024 ‘he couldn’t have organised himself to do what he did’

www.theguardian.com

'“That was nothing to do with psychosis,” the psychiatrist told the New South Wales coroners court.'
'“He couldn’t have organised himself to do what he did. I think it might have been due to his frustrations, sexual frustration, pornography and hatred towards women.”'

'She said Cauchi attributed his distress to believing he had contracted HIV after visiting a sex worker. “It was based on his fear of STD,” she said.'

 

[BFew]

More of Dr A's evidence today below.

‘Hatred toward women’: Killer’s psychiatrist makes bombshell claim at Bondi inquest

The doctor who weaned Joel Cauchi off his antipsychotic medication said he was “not psychotic” during the attack, as she repeatedly clashed with counsel assisting the inquiry.

www.smh.com.au

'“It wasn’t psychosis, it wasn’t even early warning signs of relapse, it was based on his fear of STDs, it was based on his sexual frustration, he told us later about prostitutes and women and sex,” Dr A said.

“(Re-medicating Cauchi) wouldn’t have changed the outcome and, in hindsight, it wasn’t necessary – the medication.”'

 

[Kurve]

'“That was nothing to do with psychosis,” the psychiatrist told the New South Wales coroners court.'
'“He couldn’t have organised himself to do what he did. I think it might have been due to his frustrations, sexual frustration, pornography and hatred towards women.”'

'She said Cauchi attributed his distress to believing he had contracted HIV after visiting a sex worker. “It was based on his fear of STD,” she said.'

So Cauchi's father and his psychiatrist believe he targeted women, if it wasn't enough that we could see it with our own eyes.

 

[Royces Hart]

Sounds like some A grade ass covering.

 

[BFew]

I think it might have been due to his frustrations, sexual frustration, pornography and hatred towards women.”'

'She said Cauchi attributed his distress to believing he had contracted HIV after visiting a sex worker. “It was based on his fear of STD,” she said.'

So was Cauchi's reported Aug 2023 application to work at the Bondi Junction Flamingo Club as a sex worker, servicing both men and women, primarily Cauchi's attempt at retribution on the industry that he thought was to blame for infecting him with an STD?

Brothel manager reveals Joel Cauchi's 'bizarre' escort application

A former manager at a brothel in Bondi Junction has recalled the 'bizarre' encounter she had with wannabe sex worker and crazed Westfield killer Joel Cauchi.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[BFew]

Sounds like some A grade ass covering.

Who knows what other drugs Joel Cauchi was self-medicating with over the last few years, that might have triggered a different form of psychosis, fried his brain a bit, and triggered new behavioral and decision-making issues.
Only Cannabis was in his system from the autopsy report.

Not to forget the accumulated sleep related issues he would have likely had from sleeping rough for so long.

Was there any autopsy evidence presented of an STD infection?

 

[BFew]

A whole lot of arguing reported from the inquest today.

There's a whole of other things in the below articles that can be addressed in seperate posts maybe.

Things that demonstrate what a basket case the info sharing (or lack of) was (within QLD) and often still is (IMO) between medicos in cases like this. (Not limited to QLD either).

Psychiatrist who treated Bondi Junction stabber ‘withdraws’ evidence he was not psychotic at time

Day after stating Joel Cauchi’s attack was likely due to his ‘hatred towards women’, Dr A tells inquest ‘I shouldn’t have speculated’

www.theguardian.com

'Psychiatrist who treated Bondi Junction stabber ‘withdraws’ evidence he was not psychotic at time'​

“It was conjecture on my part and I shouldn’t have speculated four years later after I completed his treatment,” the psychiatrist, known only as Dr A for legal reasons, said. Chrysanthou asked: “Do you withdraw it?” Dr A replied: “Yes.”'

Bondi attacker’s psychiatrist backflips over ‘woman hater’ claim

Joel Cauchi’s psychiatrist was also “speculating” when she said he was not psychotic during the Westfield Bondi Junction rampage.

www.smh.com.au

'Bondi attacker’s psychiatrist backflips over ‘woman hater’ claim'​

'said her evidence about his “hatred of women” was merely “conjecture”.'

 

[PenfoldsFan]

So Cauchi's father and his psychiatrist believe he targeted women, if it wasn't enough that we could see it with our own eyes.

Apparently not, as now we're just down to his Dad who hadn't seen him in a while I believe.

 

[Kurve]

Apparently not, as now we're just down to his Dad who hadn't seen him in a while I believe.

I've read it, should be obvious since I reacted to the post.

Not sure why there's such a determined push to frame the targets as simply anybody but we'll see what the Coroner finds at the end.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

I've read it, should be obvious since I reacted to the post.

Not sure why there's such a determined push to frame the targets as simply anybody but we'll see what the Coroner finds at the end.

Perhaps because thats just who they were, easy targets for a weak attacker.

Not sure why you are determined to frame it as gender driven.

 

[Kurve]

Perhaps because thats just who they were, easy targets for a weak attacker.

Not sure why you are determined to frame it as gender driven.

He turned and ran at a female cop with a gun.

This is not me trying to find an angle, it's what I saw. I don't have the evidence the Coroner does, whatever the findings are, I'd not argue with it.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

He turned and ran at a female cop with a gun.

This is not me trying to find an angle, it's what I saw. I don't have the evidence the Coroner does, whatever the findings are, I'd not argue with it.

Wouldnt be suicide by cop, could only be I'll get her too.

 

[BFew]

I don't have the evidence the Coroner does

And even then, the Coroner might be missing key evidence as to motive(s).

 

[Kurve]

Wouldnt be suicide by cop, could only be I'll get her too.

You said this: easy targets for a weak attacker.

That's what I responded to. The cop was not an easy target but she was female.

Given it appears more evidence points towards Cauchi as floridly psychotic, a hatred of women may not have been the primary driver.

Yet still, we can't get away from the facts and that the overwhelming majority of victims were women.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

DOCTOR RETRACTS CAUCHI CLAIM

DOCTOR RETRACTS CAUCHI CLAIM

todayspaper.theaustralian.com.au

 

[PenfoldsFan]

You said this: easy targets for a weak attacker.

That's what I responded to. The cop was not an easy target but she was female.

Given it appears more evidence points towards Cauchi as floridly psychotic, a hatred of women may not have been the primary driver.

Yet still, we can't get away from the facts and that the overwhelming majority of victims were women.

He did chose easy targets, Women and Men with their back turned.
He also went for a male security gaurd and the Female cop, perhaps he knew how he'd go out.

Do you reckon its because he chose a highly populated shopping complex for maximum carnage in shortest time that it was predominantly Women as Women tend to frequent those places more or he wanted to Kill Women so chose a place they'd likely be in large numbers?