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http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/index/0,22045,5006065,00.html

Round 8 sounds almost bearable.

Wonder what the downside / side effects are. It almost sounds too good to be true, and if the success rate is reasonable, you have to wonder why everyone (who can afford it) doesn't use this technique. Or maybe it's just a case of few surgeons thus far able to use it and too little time to gather data on success rates.
 
Sounds risky! I'd only suggest going ahead with it if we look like we're challenging for the flag, otherwise it'd be a pointless exercise that could mean Malceski misses even more time. By rounds 8-11, we should have a fair idea whether or not we have a chance at making the Grand Final.
 

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While Nick's recovering, who will take his spot?
 
Whilst you (budge11) may only be trolling for info for your supercoach/dreamteam, please take the time to look around our board as there is a whole thread dedicated as to who will get opportunities because of the injury to Malceski.

Please look there rather than side tracking this thread.

After you have done your research please hop (excuse the pun) back onto the Roos board and answer my troll about why no North supporter has included Matt Riggio in their first round team.

Regarding Nick's operation

Having recently experienced an op where surgeons have made huge progress that have resulted in huge reductions in recovery times, I hope that this can be the case for Nicks knee and that there are no long term detrimental effects or increased risks because of it.
 
further news,Mal is walking unaided three days after and even doing light exersise.
the procedure uses industrial strength polyester fibres instead of using tissue from another part of the body.
the bloods expect him back by ROUND 8,if it fails he will have a reconstruction and will still only miss this season.
he is expected to start running in 6 weeks.
hope this brightens up the day
 
Sounds alot like my op.

I had a double hernia repaired by key hole where by they fed a "fabric" throught he muscle.

10 to 12 day recovery with a 2% chance of a reoccurance and I'm back doing heavy manual work

Old procedure was 5 week recovery with a 20% probability of a reoccurance.

Was a blessing given that I lost income during my time off work and had a family to feed and house.

Downside of my op however is that I have been told that I will get discomfort in "areas" of my body for about 6 months.

Sometimes this discomfort can be alarming and as bad as the pain before the op.

Has to be expected I guess with a foreign object inside your body.

If the op for Nick is a success he will still have the challenge of regaining the confidence in his knee, a challenge possibly made even harder should he also experience the "discomfort" factor
 
What?! This is risky and I'm more than happy for him to recover quickly to play for us, but if it makes it worse when he plays as early as Round 8... thats a no no. Reminds me of Tadhg who was rushed back into the side too quickly last year.
 
I'm pretty sure a Cats player went to France for this radical treatment last year? Its v expensive, unfortunately I can't remember any more details now.
 
Kevin Bartlett on SEN radio today spoke to both Doug Hawkins and Rod Mcpherson who had similar operations in the 1980's.

Doug Hawkins got another 9 years on to his career after having an artificial "ligament" or whatever attached either end by screws, but 3 of his team mates (including Rod Mcpherson) who had the same op all ended up with complications.

From memory I think Mcpherson said he had the artificial "thingo" removed and then had the conventional op and spent 2 years out of the game.

He was not a big wrap for the procedure as he is looking at a articial knee joint in the future.

Reality is that the concept of the surgey it is not altogether new and that in all probability the procedure would have improved over the last 20 years or so.

I hope that they looked at all the pros and cons and that Nick was not under any pressure when making the choice
 
Hopelesslyaddicted said:
Kevin Bartlett on SEN radio today spoke to both Doug Hawkins and Rod Mcpherson who had similar operations in the 1980's.

Doug Hawkins got another 9 years on to his career after having an artificial "ligament" or whatever attached either end by screws, but 3 of his team mates (including Rod Mcpherson) who had the same op all ended up with complications.

From memory I think Mcpherson said he had the artificial "thingo" removed and then had the conventional op and spent 2 years out of the game.

He was not a big wrap for the procedure as he is looking at a articial knee joint in the future.

Reality is that the concept of the surgey it is not altogether new and that in all probability the procedure would have improved over the last 20 years or so.

I hope that they looked at all the pros and cons and that Nick was not under any pressure when making the choice
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I think the surgery might have changed just a tad in the mean time!
Nick would not have been expecting (in reality) to play again this season, so if it's unsuccessful, surely he could just have the conventional surgery without really losing anything.
 
DeadlyAkkuret said:
Sounds risky! I'd only suggest going ahead with it if we look like we're challenging for the flag, otherwise it'd be a pointless exercise that could mean Malceski misses even more time. By rounds 8-11, we should have a fair idea whether or not we have a chance at making the Grand Final.
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That is one of the stupider comments i have heard lately.
we were 4&4 in 2005 mate :rolleyes:
 

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swancat said:
I'm pretty sure a Cats player went to France for this radical treatment last year? Its v expensive, unfortunately I can't remember any more details now.
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The Cats player is Jarred Rooke. It worked wonders for him although it was his hammys that was his problem.

It sounds like everything has gone well for Nick so far. He and his family are fully aware of the risks involved and he had agreed to undergo this new procedure. Lets hope it works out for him and the club.
 
Max Rooke from Geelong went to Germany last year in a desperate bid to cure a persistant hamstring injury.Apparantly he was injected with blood from animals and other unusual procedures but he came back and played in the Grand Final.
Specialists in Australia frequently consult overseas peers to assist them in diagnostic and operative procedures.
I hope all goes to plan for Nick.
I wonder whether the remaining nee victims from the NAB series will seek the same cure.
 
smasher said:
I wonder whether the remaining nee victims from the NAB series will seek the same cure.
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Only if their willing to go to Europe for the op (which would already be out of the question for some). We got lucky, Gibbs knew about the treatment, knew the guy from Europe was in Sydney and went ahead with the op. So we lucked out there cost wise.

As for whether its a risk, well it seems pretty clear to me that the club is trying its best to get Malceski back as soon as they can, but they won't rush him at the same time. If this method doesn't work then he'll undergo the normal reco sometime in late May and be back for Round 1 next year.

Also remember with Kennelly we never rushed him back from an op, because he never had one until his season was ended. So we really can't link his injury and rush back into the team with this latest thing with Malceski.
 
liz said:
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/index/0,22045,5006065,00.html

Round 8 sounds almost bearable.

Wonder what the downside / side effects are. It almost sounds too good to be true, and if the success rate is reasonable, you have to wonder why everyone (who can afford it) doesn't use this technique. Or maybe it's just a case of few surgeons thus far able to use it and too little time to gather data on success rates.
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I think its because it's relatively new, but pretty safe from what I know.

Nearly all cases have proven to cut recovery time in half, but they just don't know what the full effects can be on different people.
Of course, different people and different bodies will react differently to the procedure, and that has to be taken into account too.

This surgery;

Injured in Launceston on February 17, he underwent what is known as a ligament augmentation and reconstruction system (LARS), where a ligament made of industrial-strength polyester fibres is used to replace the torn natural ligament.
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..in place of;

The surgery is performed arthroscopically. The ruptured ligament is removed and then tunnels (holes) in the bone are drilled to accept the new graft. This graft which replaces your old ACL is taken either from the hamstring tendon or the patella tendon. There are advantages & disadvantages of each with the final decision based on surgeons preference. The graft is prepared to take the form of a new tendon and passed through the drill holes in the bone.
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With the surgery that Malceski's gotten, no tendons are removed, no bone drilled, so that significantly reduces the recovery period. Of course, you can also take a graft from a cadaver, but anti-inflammatory and anti-immune drugs must be taken for a considerable period of time (Alisa Camplin undertook this surgery before the '06 Winter Olympics).
 

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Hopelesslyaddicted said:
Kevin Bartlett on SEN radio today spoke to both Doug Hawkins and Rod Mcpherson who had similar operations in the 1980's.

Doug Hawkins got another 9 years on to his career after having an artificial "ligament" or whatever attached either end by screws, but 3 of his team mates (including Rod Mcpherson) who had the same op all ended up with complications.

From memory I think Mcpherson said he had the artificial "thingo" removed and then had the conventional op and spent 2 years out of the game.

He was not a big wrap for the procedure as he is looking at a articial knee joint in the future.

Reality is that the concept of the surgey it is not altogether new and that in all probability the procedure would have improved over the last 20 years or so.

I hope that they looked at all the pros and cons and that Nick was not under any pressure when making the choice
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Good luck with it all. I know a bloke who in his younger days went camping and didn't have a crap for 10 days. He said that wasn't so bad but when it arrived it was like peeling onions, his eyes watered somewhat.

Hope you have better luck with "other" parts of your body.
 
nico said:
Good luck with it all. I know a bloke who in his younger days went camping and didn't have a crap for 10 days. He said that wasn't so bad but when it arrived it was like peeling onions, his eyes watered somewhat.

Hope you have better luck with "other" parts of your body.
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and thanks for your contribution ... i was hoping to get to sleep some time later tonight but certain images may now prevent that
 
Hopelesslyaddicted said:
Whilst you (budge11) may only be trolling for info for your supercoach/dreamteam, please take the time to look around our board as there is a whole thread dedicated as to who will get opportunities because of the injury to Malceski.

Please look there rather than side tracking this thread.

After you have done your research please hop (excuse the pun) back onto the Roos board and answer my troll about why no North supporter has included Matt Riggio in their first round team.

Regarding Nick's operation

Having recently experienced an op where surgeons have made huge progress that have resulted in huge reductions in recovery times, I hope that this can be the case for Nicks knee and that there are no long term detrimental effects or increased risks because of it.
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What's your problem?

I asked because I'm generally interested, not 'trolling' and it's not for HS supercoach.

Nice way to treat others on your board

And btw, I did answer your question. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10179545#post10179545
 
is2SWaNz said:
Risky Nick Malceski surgery banned in France

Now I'm feeling a bit uneasy and scared about this surgery. :(
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You fears may be vindicated, however, have faith as it has been seen over the last few years that a great deal of research, and implementations of innovative procedures has resulted in the players having amazing success with recovery and importantly prevention of injuries. The best examples have been the longevity of Michael O'Loughlin and consecutive games Adam Goodes has played.
 

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