Conspiracy Theory Mandates, Lockdowns, Covid-19, SARS-Cov-2 Thread - Get vaccinated.

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

https://www.statesman.com/story/new...n-exempt-congress-vaccine-mandate/9225331002/

That's behind a paywall but I assume it's essentially the same as this.

Biden has no authority to mandate vaccines for Congress

Since President Joe Biden first issued an executive order in September requiring federal workers to be vaccinated agains

www.politifact.com

In which case your post is basically attacking a straw man.

 

[Chief]

VAERS reports that nearly 50% of deaths that occurred post vaccination did so within 48 hours of vaccination

VAERS is self-reporting. It is not validated information.

 

[Chief]

A person was not considered "vaccinated" until 14 days after their vaccination.

By who? In which study?

Covid deaths and other stats were recorded differently in different countries, so in which jurisdiction was this definition used?

 

[Malifice]

That's behind a paywall but I assume it's essentially the same as this.

Biden has no authority to mandate vaccines for Congress

Since President Joe Biden first issued an executive order in September requiring federal workers to be vaccinated agains

www.politifact.com

In which case your post is basically attacking a straw man.

Wait.

So you're saying Biden was shit, for not seeking to do something that the SCOTUS would have ruled was unlawful?

Is that the thrust of your argument?

 

[Malifice]

VAERS is self-reporting. It is not validated information.

There were a lot of deaths (from COVID) shortly after vaccination.

Go to www.sorryantivaxxer.com. Most of those ****wits were not vaccinated right up to contracting COVID. They were then vaccinated (but died anyway, because it was too late).

The protections from vaccination dont really kick in if you're already infected.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Wait.

So you're saying Biden was shit, for not seeking to do something that the SCOTUS would have ruled was unlawful?

Is that the thrust of your argument?

No.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Covid deaths and other stats were recorded differently in different countries, so in which jurisdiction was this definition used?

In the US you were not counted as fully vaccinated until a full 14 days had passed since your second injection in the case of Pfizer or Moderna, or 14 days after your 1st dose of Janssen. In Australia you weren't considered fully vaccinated until 14 days following a second dose of Pfizer or AstraZeneca. From memory the interval between doses 1 & 2 was 8 - 12 weeks. In the UK 21 days had to pass after your first dose to be considered partially vaccinated and then 21 days after your booster to be considered fully vaccinated.

The UK statistics were criticised by 4 researchers in a paper published in 2022 (Professor Norman Fenton and Professor Martin Neil from Queen Mary University, London, Dr. Clare Craig, an independent researcher, and Scott McLachlan of Kings College, London). Here is an extract from that paper.

The ONS vaccine mortality surveillance reports for England have numerous anomalies which bias its results strongly toward underestimating mortality rates for the vaccinated and overestimating mortality rates for the unvaccinated.

Overall, the ONS dataset is so compromised with inaccuracies, anomalies, and biases that it cannot be used to reliably determine vaccine efficacy and safety.

They also sent a letter to ONS higlighting their concerns.

All of the anomalies in the dataset introduce bias in favour of analyses supporting vaccine ‘safety and efficacy’. The fact that these data are being used as continued justification for the efficacy and safety of the covid vaccines is therefore now a matter of national concern

The ONS wrote back to them conceding several of their points.

The US statistics had similar issues.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

VAERS is self-reporting.

I know what you mean but self-reporting is a confusing description. We were talking about deaths. The dead can't self-report anything. It would have to be their care-giver or a health provider.

 

[magpie_marty]

Trump still takes his booster shot's.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Trump still takes his booster shot's.

I heard that. Also heard a few days earlier he inked a $70 Billion deal with Pfizer.