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Mandatory Vaccinations And Medical Exemptions
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I’d like to see clarification on what constitutes vaccinated. How many are dying or contracting in the two weeks post vaccinations.
Honestly, I am not a big fan of banning anti-vaxxers, no matter how blatant they are.
Most of their arguments get easily debunked anyway by people who know what they're talking about, so having the blatant lie and then the clear rebuttal can be a good thing. At the very least, it primes others to identify next time a different anti-vaxxer tries pulling the same BS.
"Here's this paper that proves vaccines don't work!!"
"oh...the one that was debunked on the other thread last week? Er...ok...."
Most of their arguments get easily debunked anyway by people who know what they're talking about, so having the blatant lie and then the clear rebuttal can be a good thing. At the very least, it primes others to identify next time a different anti-vaxxer tries pulling the same BS.
"Here's this paper that proves vaccines don't work!!"
"oh...the one that was debunked on the other thread last week? Er...ok...."
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Who’s in the minority? There’s now >68% of 16+ vaxed.
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And he's not voting for mandatory vaccination. He's voting for people who exercise their right to choose not to get vaccinated to stay away from the rest of us.
No, the poll is not nuanced enough to be useful.
I am against the government making the vaccine mandatory.
I am for the government allowing businesses to refuse service and employment to those who choose not to get vaccinated.
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i am. thats like saying youre not against people promoting the use of drinking bleach to kill the virus (i use that as an example because it happened). unfortunately, there are vulnerable/gullible people out there who are untrusting of the government for reasons other than simply being anti science (like poor education, having come form a dictatorship etc) who will take that advice and suffer serious harm or death. I happens a lot, for things broader than covid 19.
you cant just let people spread harmful, dangerous, potentially life threatening medical or scientific advice in the guise of freedom, with the assumption that nothing will happen because they will get proven wrong. studies have shown that the more you prove these people wrong, the more solidified they get in their beliefs, and the more people get taken advantage of. no matter whether you eventually prove them wrong to the point that they're considered a joke and disappear, they will still have caused harm to some vulnerable people.
No but the last 15% who won’t otherwise do it is.
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That could be inferred as a minimum figure. Plenty of fully vaccinated people also wouldn't support mandatory vaccinations, so I imagine the real figure would be higher.
Sure. What’s the point exactly? What you’ll find soon is the vaccinated will have less tolerance for the unvaccinated. People will demand that their colleagues are vaccinated. I personally have no tolerance for them. They’re selfish.
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The point is calling out fake statistics.
There is too little tolerance in the world today. Initially I'd hoped the pandemic would bring people together. Nations perhaps. Instead it's divided states and tested friendships.
Well I guess the thing is that there is not much in the way of argument. They come on here - just to post in the COVID threads - post someting, ignore all the responses and then just spam links/or get hostile. There are a few posters who are against vaccination that you can have a decent(ish) discussion with.
For those in favour of mandatory vaccines , what is the earliest age group you’d like to see be vaccinated?
Deadset thrown up all over my keyboard reading this thread. Full of blatant discrimination. Isn’t it funny that those who are charged with sex crimes against adults and children don’t have to carry around a “passport” because it is in breach of their human rights? Much like a vaccine passport with peoples medical records on them which is absolutely nobody’s business except the person and their GP’s. No I am not an antivaxxer, but I am totally against mandatory vaccines or passports, it is only going to divide us even more. If it makes you feel better have away at me I am fully prepared to be shat on for having a different opinion.
You're "not an anti-vaxxer", but you literally repeat word-for-word anti-vax talking points?
‘I’m not antivax but’ is a new twist on ‘I’m not racist but’
Would you support people convicted of sex crimes having to carry an identification that identifies them?
Would they have to show identification to be able to go to or work in places where children are, kinda like having to get a clearance or something?
We’ll I’m double vaxxed so your argument is invalid. It’s kind of funny how if people disagree with you they are an antivaxxer. Good god you are a boring freak, must suck not having mates with different opinions let alone mates at all.
Immediately resorting to childish name calling once they're called out is also a very textbook anti-vax thing.....
So just to get it straight. Anyone "centre" or "centre right" aligned is an "anti-vaxxer" is this right? Or is it anyone that disagrees with your view and opinion is "antivaxx".
No, people who post word-for-word standard anti-vax talking points and arguments, and behave/respond the exact way they do, are certainly worth the suspicion of being seen as 'anti-vaxxers'.
In my experience, there's just as many anti-vaxxers on the loony left as the loony right, so not sure why anyone wants to make it a 'political' thing.
Hahahahah it’s like talking to a brick wall mate. Much like those inner city lefties in Brunswick and Fitzroy. Apparently you are antivaxx if you disagree with mandating it yet you’ve had both your shots. I think we all know who the real child is in this thread
Really true that last statement about friendships. My brother in law’s boyfriend, who is a red hot leftie attached himself to Pfizer as the ‘labor vaccine’ of choice. Therefore any procurement of other vaccines leads to anger and bitterness. So he regularly trolls me about vaccines etc and we used to get on really well, but I find this s**t really annoying especially the online targeting of which I never do personally, not sure why people think it’s acceptable.
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