Remove this Banner Ad

Mark Cosgrove

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Gets! said:
Boof's words, not mine. Although I share a similar sentament :)

From www.sportal.com.au

-------------------------

South Australia captain Darren Lehmann has claimed young Redbacks teammate Mark Cosgrove has the ability to win next year's World Cup for Australia and should be considered for selection.

"He has really improved this year and he is the guy they [selectors] need to really look after and play in the next couple of one-day series to get him to the World Cup," Lehmann told The Advertiser.

Cosgrove, last season's Bradman Young Cricketer of the Year, displayed his power and finesse smashing 121 runs in the Redbacks' crushing win over the Warriors in their ING Cup clash at the WACA on Wednesday.

Lehmann and Cosgrove shared a punishing 161-run partnership in the win over Western Australia and the Redbacks' captain rated the youngster's century one of the best 100s he has witnessed at the WACA ground.

"He is a bloke who can win a World Cup for Australia - he is that good," Lehmann said of the dynamic young batsman.

"They need to get him to the World Cup really quickly. "If they can get him in the system early enough they can help him along with his weight, fitness, bowling and fielding. He is that good a player ... hits the ball as clean as I have ever seen anyone hit them."

Cosgrove, who drew unwanted media attention at the beginning of the season because of an excessive weight issue has worked overtime to get fit this season and the extra focus has shown in his form.

"He has been one, two, three or four for us this year," Lehmann said. "We just keep chucking him anywhere and he keeps fixing the problem for us."

"He is in that good a knick, he is a young bloke who gives it a whack and can hit any sort of bowling around the park."

"We have got to make sure we get him in there [The World Cup squad] and look after him."

-------------------------

:D
Click to expand...

I'm not a South Australian but i agree with Boof.
He's the best young batsman i've seen since Lara and Ponting and should be in the ODI side ASAFP.
 
I suppose the selectors have shown their world cup policy is to try and get to the well with the old brigade one last time. Obviously many will play their last WC, we have had our chances to blood more younger players in recent times and have chosen not too, certainly giving guys like Hopes a spot in the side seem very suss on face value.

I think a chance certainly this series was there for Cosgrove to play, and this has not happened. Jacques will obviously be feeling pretty upset about his treatment also.

I suppose the proof in the pudding will be dictated by the WC results.
 

Log in to remove this Banner Ad

Bentleigh said:
Jacques > Cosgrove
Click to expand...
There is absolutley no merit to this argument I mean Jaques is 27 and Cosgrave is 21. You cannot compare them as Jaques has so much more experience. Stupid post mate.

Cosgrave is going to be such a good player though, he shows such flair in his striking of the ball and just looks a gun cricketer.
 
Armageddon said:
There is absolutley no merit to this argument I mean Jaques is 27 and Cosgrave is 21. You cannot compare them as Jaques has so much more experience. Stupid post mate.

Cosgrave is going to be such a good player though, he shows such flair in his striking of the ball and just looks a gun cricketer.
Click to expand...

Incorrect. Not stupid in the least.

Jaques is 26.

He has been doing better for longer thus should be in the ODI side now and is the long term future of Australian test cricket. I love Cosi but he is indeed only 21. Thus he needs a couple more years at domestic level. Both will be playing for Australia in both forms of the games. Both are wonderful prospects for Australia.

Jaques is much bettre choice to be playing for Australia short term.
 
Bentleigh said:
Jaques is 26.
Click to expand...

Cosgrove is 21.

He has been doing better for longer
Click to expand...

This is the funniest part. He's 5 years older, and really hasn't been doing it better for longer.

thus should be in the ODI side now and is the long term future of Australian test cricket.
Click to expand...

But this is first decent season of ING Cup cricket and he's 26. He hadn't even made a century in the competition before this season. But hey! don't let facts get in the way of anything.

And Cosgrove is the 'long term future of Australian Test Cricket', Jaques is nothing but a replacement for Hayden or Langer and probably wont get a regular run in the side until he's 28 or 29. Hardly long term.

Clarke was 'long term' when he was picked because he hadn't really done anything near impressive enough to earn a place in the team. Cosgrove wouldn't he 'long term' because he's more than merited his place with performance and has been a far superior batsman to Clarke at the same age.

Cosgrove is the more 'long term future' than any batsman in the country though. You confuse champ.

It's pretty funny reading your posts though dude. So many contradictions, so obvious you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Makes for quite entertaining reading.

I love Cosi but he is indeed only 21.
Click to expand...

He's outplayed Jaques this season and Hussey. His age shouldn't matter, it should be the best performed batsman. His age should only work tremendously in his favour. Champions play at the elite level from a young age, he's a very talented player.

Thus he needs a couple more years at domestic level.
Click to expand...

Ha.

Oh dear me. If his performances warrant it, he shouldn't need a 'couple more seasons at domestic level'. Again I go back to Clarke, if anyone needed those 'couple of seasons at domestic level' it was him. Clarke never really excelled in first-class cricket and never really did anything of note to earn his spot.

Jaques is much better choice to be playing for Australia short term.
Click to expand...

Why exactly?

Cosgrove has been the better player this season, is five years younger and can play anywhere in the batting order.

Jaques hasn't been doing it for so long, he's 26 and this is first real good season of One-Day cricket.

Cosgrove's outperformed him in the Pura-Cup in 2 of the last 3 seasons as well.

Explain that. Know it nothing expert.
 

Remove this Banner Ad

apollo_creed said:
Jaques hasn't been doing it for so long, he's 26 and this is first real good season of One-Day cricket.

Cosgrove's outperformed him in the Pura-Cup in 2 of the last 3 seasons as well. And is 5 years younger.

Explain that. Know it nothing expert.
Click to expand...

Code: 
2005-06 Pura Cup 
509 runs @ 56.55 (strike rate of 62.83)

2004-05 Pura Cup
1191 @ 66.16 (@ st of 59.75) 

2005-06 ING Cup
658 @ 109.66 (@ st of 99.24)


  • 2 great years of 4 day cricket
  • Amazing ODD year

Jaques - next in line for ODI & Test side.

Going to be a very good Australian player.
 
I agree with Boof.

Gilchrist
Jaques
Ponting
Cosgrove
Symonds
Clarke
Hussey
Hogg/Warne
Lee
Bracken
McGrath


= 3 consecutive WC's to Australia.
 
BomberAUS said:
To those pushing for him to play: Who should he replace?

I have no problems with our middle order at the moment in the ODI form.
Click to expand...

Cosgrove, as the great one said, can bat anywhere. When we have Katich and Hodge in our batting line-up, I have problems with out batting line-up. Not to mention the out-of-form Gilchrist and the past-his-best Martyn.

Jaques
Gilly
Ponting
Clarke
Symo
Hussey
Cosgrove

That batting order would work, and any of 4-7 could be swapped around easily.
 
Bentleigh said:
Code: 
2005-06 Pura Cup 
509 runs @ 56.55 (strike rate of 62.83)

2004-05 Pura Cup
1191 @ 66.16 (@ st of 59.75) 

2005-06 ING Cup
658 @ 109.66 (@ st of 99.24)


  • 2 great years of 4 day cricket
  • Amazing ODD year

Jaques - next in line for ODI & Test side.

Going to be a very good Australian player.
Click to expand...
I edited my original post, go up and read it.

I suggest you need to.
 
Sylvia Saint said:
Gilchrist
Jaques
Ponting
Cosgrove
Symonds
Clarke
Hussey
Click to expand...

GoSydneySwans said:
Jaques
Gilly
Ponting
Clarke
Symo
Hussey
Cosgrove
Click to expand...

I like it.

I also like:

  1. Jaques
  2. Gilly
  3. Ponting
  4. Clarke
  5. Symo
  6. Hussey
  7. Cosgrove
  8. Lee
  9. Warne
  10. Tait/Bracken
  11. McGrath

  12. Watson


Mind you David Hussey & Martyn very stiff.
 

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Bentleigh said:
Code: 
2005-06 Pura Cup 
509 runs @ 56.55 (strike rate of 62.83)

2004-05 Pura Cup
1191 @ 66.16 (@ st of 59.75) 

2005-06 ING Cup
658 @ 109.66 (@ st of 99.24)


  • 2 great years of 4 day cricket
  • Amazing ODD year

Jaques - next in line for ODI & Test side.

Going to be a very good Australian player.
Click to expand...
Interesting because Cosgrove has 2 great years of Pura-Cup cricket and a fantastic ING cup season to his name.

And is 5 years younger.

Hear that?

eeeeoohhhhh!!!!!!!!!
 
apollo_creed said:
Interesting because Cosgrove has 2 great years of Pura-Cup cricket and a fantastic ING cup season to his name.

And is 5 years younger.

Hear that?

eeeeoohhhhh!!!!!!!!!
Click to expand...

What is Cosgroves stats from last season?

Who cares if he is 5 years younger :confused: All the more reason for him to have another year or 2 at domestic level to continue pilling on the runs.

Jaques is 26.
 
Bentleigh said:
What is Cosgroves stats from last season?

Who cares if he is 5 years younger :confused: All the more reason for him to have another year or 2 at domestic level to continue pilling on the runs.

Jaques is 26.
Click to expand...
But Jaques has performed in as many seasons as Cosgrove. And is 5 years younger.

Surely he should be forced to do the same?
 
apollo_creed said:
But Jaques has performed in as many seasons as Cosgrove. And is 5 years younger.

Surely he should be forced to do the same?
Click to expand...

Jaques has had the greatest ODD season ever for a Australain.
He has had 2 A-Grade 4 day game seasons.

That in my book has him ahead of Cosgrove.
 
Bentleigh said:
Jaques has had the greatest ODD season ever for a Australain.
He has had 2 A-Grade 4 day game seasons.

That in my book has him ahead of Cosgrove.
Click to expand...
You're getting desperate now.

Cosgrove has had 2 A-Grade Pura-Cup seasons (including one this season with a far better average than Jaques and more runs despite playing 2 less matches)

And has been outstanding in the ING Cup this season.

And is 5 years younger, can bat anywhere and has greater room for improvement.

And you STILL haven't answered my question about Clarke.
 
apollo_creed said:
You're getting desperate now.
Click to expand...

I assure you, I am not.

Cosgrove has had 2 A-Grade Pura-Cup seasons (including one this season with a far better average than Jaques and more runs despite playing 2 less matches)

And has been outstanding in the ING Cup this season.

And is 5 years younger, can bat anywhere and has greater room for improvement.
Click to expand...

Actully last year in the 4 day game Cosi was poo. Both have been very good in the Pura Cup (Cosi better).

2004-05 Pura Cup

Jaques - 1191 @ 66.16
Cosgrove - 223 @ 18.58

2005-06 ING Cup
Jaques - 658 @ 109.66 @99.24
Cosgrove - 452 @ 90.40 @ 90.94

I don't understand why you want to fight over this point. I think they are both great player and reckon they'll both have a great carrer for Australia.
Fact is most people think Jaques is next in line to both the Test and ODI whilst Cosi is alittle further back at this stage. In the long term im sure they will both be very good.

Selectors agree by giving Jaques a sniff in both games - you feel he is on the verge.

And you STILL haven't answered my question about Clarke.
Click to expand...

What question?
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Remove this Banner Ad

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Back
Top Bottom