Mark Harvey

[nut]

Was mentioned on the Footy Show that sheeds looks like he will sign for another few years.

Harvey is said to be considering looking else where for a senior coaching position.

He has the experience and has seen first hand how to become successful. Also he has been there for the ride. from the bottom to the Top, which I think is the most important ingridient a coach can have. Someone who can deal with the good times, but also knows how to get throu the tough times.

 

[tigerman]

Terry Daniher would be a good get.
He is currently at Collingwood, after being an assistant at Essendon.
He would bring a bit of Sheedy as well as Malthouse with him.

CARN THE TIGERS!!!!

 

[Itze]

Sheeds and Harvs

I think that Harvs is playing his cards right. He desperately wants the top job at Bomberland and has said as much in a manner of speaking, and he's manouvering things so that if Essendon don't make the finals this year the Board will let Sheedy go. This will pave the way for a return to Tigerland of the messiah!

Come on Sheeds, what better challenge is their AFL football than to get the Richmond Football Club back into a position that it was during the 60s and 70s. A feared and ruthless football team. This should represent the ultimate challenge for someone like Sheedy. He's done everything he could possibly do at Essendon. It's time to put something back into the club Sheeds. We need you now more than ever!!!

 

[CJH]

Re: Sheeds and Harvs

Originally posted by Itze
I think that Harvs is playing his cards right. He desperately wants the top job at Bomberland and has said as much in a manner of speaking, and he's manouvering things so that if Essendon don't make the finals this year the Board will let Sheedy go. This will pave the way for a return to Tigerland of the messiah!

...

I have some thoughts on this too that I will jot down shortly... once I get enough time to!

 

[Harry Bosch]

Re: Sheeds and Harvs

Originally posted by Itze
This will pave the way for a return to Tigerland of the messiah!

Come on Sheeds, what better challenge is their AFL football than to get the Richmond Football Club back into a position that it was during the 60s and 70s. A feared and ruthless football team. This should represent the ultimate challenge for someone like Sheedy. He's done everything he could possibly do at Essendon. It's time to put something back into the club Sheeds. We need you now more than ever!!!

Messiah

Thats all we need , supporters still looking for a 'Messiah' figure to
magically turn the club around.

What we need is for Richmond to develop into a well run and professional football club in all areas. Sheedy won't help with that and getting him (not that it will happen) would mean the areas that we need to improve in might get glossed over.

Sheedy is a good coach but thats all he is and getting him wouldn't make much difference by itself.

If we are looking for people to turn the club around with the end result being a successful RFC then we should be looking more at the likes of Miller and Ian Campbell.

 

[diggler]

Sheedy might not be the most perfect coach, but he is a 200% improvement on that clown running the show now. Frawley will kill the Richmond football with his negative, uninspiring coach.
The question is, will they kick more than 10 goals at telstra dome?

 

[kretchy]

Sheedy's been a great coach but I reckon he's getting close to being past it. His side in the last couple of years has also had a lack of discipline.

 

[fusion]

Would Sheedy return with Greg Millar at Richmond. The two didn't get along when Millar was at North.

 

[nut]

Originally posted by tigerman
Terry Daniher would be a good get.
He is currently at Collingwood, after being an assistant at Essendon.
He would bring a bit of Sheedy as well as Malthouse with him.

CARN THE TIGERS!!!!

TD is to good a bloke to be coach. I think we need a head kicker. So one who can put some of the ego's at the club down to size.

Mark Harvey would do that.

 

[diggler]

Easy, get rid of Miller too. From what I heard today on 3AW, he is a deluded fool like the rest of them.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Originally posted by diggler
Easy, get rid of Miller too. From what I heard today on 3AW, he is a deluded fool like the rest of them.

obviously the concept of keeping things in house escapes you.what a suprise.

 

[Itze]

Re: Re: Sheeds and Harvs

Originally posted by Harry Bosch
Messiah

Thats all we need , supporters still looking for a 'Messiah' figure to
magically turn the club around.

What we need is for Richmond to develop into a well run and professional football club in all areas. Sheedy won't help with that and getting him (not that it will happen) would mean the areas that we need to improve in might get glossed over.

Sheedy is a good coach but thats all he is and getting him wouldn't make much difference by itself.

If we are looking for people to turn the club around with the end result being a successful RFC then we should be looking more at the likes of Miller and Ian Campbell.

Harry,

What football team have you actually been watching over the past 20 years? Have a look at what we've achieved in the last 20 years, in which we have apparently been a professionally run club. We've had CEO's of major companies running our club and we're still looking for prefessionalism.

I couldn't believe Tony Jewell's comments this weekend that he doesn't believe Sheedy would necessarily be the right person for the job at Richmond. In the time that Jewell has held some sort of official position at the club since the 1980 premiership, our on-field performance has gone from bad to worse. Who is he to say something like that?

It does not take a brain surgeon to figure out that Richmond as a football club performs a hell of a lot better with a former Tiger at the helm. Look at what we achieved under Northey. Our performances during that year (1995) were so much better than our performances under Frawley in 2001 when we made the finals. Who remembers in 1995 when we drew with the Bombers in the home and away fixture, and then produced the clubs best victory in the second semi-final to beat the Bombers. What a day, and what terrific spirit was shown during that year. All with a Tiger at the helm.

Compare that to the performances of 2001 under Frawley. We beat the reigning premier Essendon in Round 22, then a week later get slaughtered by the same team in a qualifiying final. Then we produce the worst effort in a final that I have ever seen to beat a sub-standard Carlton outfit, to progress to a Preliminary final in which we are convincingly out-muscled by eventual premiers Brisbane.

Sheedy at Richmond would have a similar impact to what Barassi did with Sydney. Although Barass did not play for the Swans, he galvanised the entire club in one direction. The players, coaches, staff, members, supporters, it was sensational! It is this quality that Sheeds would bring with him to Richmond. Lord knows that the administration can't do it on their own. Remember that the coach is the publiuc face of a football club. And no other coach has done this better than Sheedy for Essendon over the past 20 years.

 

[Steve76]

northey

Northey was very good for one year, then it all fell apart - seems he loved the motivational speeches and all that, but once the players hear the same message for over a season, its effect wears off and players fall back to their old ways.

Unfortunately, it seems Danny has neither has the motivational powers to get one unreal season out fo the list nor the tactical/teaching ability the truly great coaches have to build ongoing success.

Sheedy is an interesting one - he's closer to retirement than most, so he's hardly a long term solution, and it's important not to confuse his current performances with the fact that he's past it as a coach, rather he could just very well be past it as Essendon coach - he has been there 20 yrs - so just like a change in environment can reinvigorate players, it can also happen to coaches.

He would be good to revitalise the place, get membership numbers up - but not sure he is the best for long term success, as that is what we all want, and a coach who will stay around for 10 yrs that will yield a premiership or three.

As for a coach being an ex-Tiger, there aren't many out there who could be considered (apart from Sheedy).

 

[Itze]

Sheeds

The reason it all fell apart after that one year that Northey took us to the Prelim final was b/c he wasn't the coach the following year. That twit "Leon Daphne" told him that he wasn't worth a pay rise. Hows that? The first coach to put Richmond into the finals series in 13 years and they could not afford a contact extension. That's what professionalism brings to the club.

Sheedy may well not be a long term proposition, but for 3 or 4 years he could lay a mighty foundation. Look at the assistant's that Sheeds has had during his time at Bomberland and where they are now - D. Pagan, M. Williams, M. Thompson, T. Daniher, M. Harvey......all flourishing in coaching circles. So getting Sheedy for a 3 or 4 year period could very well be a long term strategy to groom another coach so that Sheedy can take a back seat a-la Parkin at Hawthorn later on.

 

[Steve76]

Could never imagine Sheedy taking a back seat anywhere, would always be giving the media stories with his latest "way out" ideas....

Forgot about Northey's method of dismissal, Daphne was a bit of a fool, was he responsible for appointing Gieschen also ?

And then we got Walls in return.....

 

[Itze]

Now I don't profess to know Sheedy intamately, but it is my firm belief that he would be the typr of person to welcome the opportunity to take a position like a Chairman of Selectors at an AFL club after his coaching career. A position that does not have the demands of a full time coach, but still some involvement in the coaching area.

By the way, if memory serves me correctly, both Geischen & Walls were appointed by a Leon Daphne led board with strong recommendations from Tony Jewell.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Re: Sheeds

Originally posted by Itze
The reason it all fell apart after that one year that Northey took us to the Prelim final was b/c he wasn't the coach the following year. That twit "Leon Daphne" told him that he wasn't worth a pay rise.

Not entirely accurate, Itze. In fact, Swooper did not leave over a money dispute ... it was a lot more intircate, and possibly more sinister, than that.

 

[Weaver]

Re: Re: Sheeds

Originally posted by GhostofJimJess
Not entirely accurate, Itze. In fact, Swooper did not leave over a money dispute ... it was a lot more intircate, and possibly more sinister, than that.

Mal Brown thought Northey was limited and out-of-date. Northey was suspicious of Mal Brown, so decided to test the board by asking for a contract extension. When they refused it was clear that Brown was running things so Northey jumped ship.

The decision to let Northey go was not as poor as the one to replace him with Walls.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Re: Re: Re: Sheeds

Originally posted by Weaver
Mal Brown thought Northey was limited and out-of-date. Northey was suspicious of Mal Brown, so decided to test the board by asking for a contract extension. When they refused it was clear that Brown was running things so Northey jumped ship.

The decision to let Northey go was not as poor as the one to replace him with Walls.

Exactly Weaver. And don't forget to throw in the underhandedness of Brown's lapdog Brian Waldron.