Martin Hardie: I write the forms... I think Evans ran the program

[QuietB]

I’ll say this - The fish we’re aiming for and have found strong links to, are much bigger than Hird.

Cool. You go sort that out and, and maybe solve the Middle East crisis while you are at it and we will watch the ASADA investigation conclude.

 

[kfc1]

Any link between Calzada products and Ramanauskas' cancer? Either before or after his diagnosis?

lol

 

[Black Diamond]

Interesting to see Eddie McGuire's name bob up on this topic.

You hadn't noticed how silent Ed has been during this fiasco?

 

[CozzaD]

So why the silence? Are B&M suppressed?

You hadn't noticed how silent Ed has been during this fiasco?

McGuire sits on the Board of David Evans’ private company Evans and Partners.

McGuire and Evans also share a Board spot on The Shane Warne Foundation.

These guys use Boards as meeting places away from the public eye.

If the company (Evans and Partners) was looking at investing in Pharmaceuticals in 2011/12, then McGuire would have knowledge, it’s a safe assumption.

Also check Tim Boreham article in The Australian from February 2010, that’s when AOD-9064 first was discussed.

To answer B&M question. Commercial media have been terrible on this. Too much focus on what the players took, not WHY the players took it.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

You hadn't noticed how silent Ed has been during this fiasco?

I had.

By 'interesting' I meant 'hardly surprising and intriguing that hopefully someone will follow the leads down towards the Westpac Centre that keep opening up then closing without any explanation'.

 

[western royboy]

McGuire sits on the Board of David Evans’ private company Evans and Partners.

McGuire and Evans also share a Board spot on The Shane Warne Foundation.

These guys use Boards as meeting places away from the public eye.

If the company (Evans and Partners) was looking at investing in Pharmaceuticals in 2011/12, then McGuire would have knowledge, it’s a safe assumption.

Also check Tim Boreham article in The Australian from February 2010, that’s when AOD-9064 first was discussed.

To answer B&M question. Commercial media have been terrible on this. Too much focus on what the players took, not WHY the players took it.

BANG!

 

[FuManchu]

McGuire sits on the Board of David Evans’ private company Evans and Partners.

McGuire and Evans also share a Board spot on The Shane Warne Foundation.

These guys use Boards as meeting places away from the public eye.

If the company (Evans and Partners) was looking at investing in Pharmaceuticals in 2011/12, then McGuire would have knowledge, it’s a safe assumption.

Also check Tim Boreham article in The Australian from February 2010, that’s when AOD-9064 first was discussed.

To answer B&M question. Commercial media have been terrible on this. Too much focus on what the players took, not WHY the players took it.

It's a big leap from a company looking to invest and a football club using that product.

Are you inferring that Collingwood are involved in any of thisAOD stuff?

 

[CozzaD]

It's a big leap from a company looking to invest and a football club using that product.

Are you inferring that Collingwood are involved in any of thisAOD stuff?

No, maybe McGuire personally (for his own financial gain), but not Collingwood as a club.

 

[dogs105]

The AFL has a history under Vlad of going after one club on an issue (the one most guilty) and putting them to the sword whilst ignoring/under playing the extent that other clubs may be doing the same. Use one club as an example to forewarn the others to clean up their act whilst making it appear like they are doing something about the problem which they insist is isolated to that club

West Coast weren't the only who's players were using recreational drugs, they were just the most obvious.
Melbourne weren't the only club with some questionable tactics when it came to winning games, they were just the most obvious.
Essendon weren't the only club using supplements, they were just the most obvious.

We weren't the only ones slipping money to Kurt Tippett. Oh, hang on...

 

[FuManchu]

No, maybe McGuire personally (for his own financial gain), but not Collingwood as a club.

That satisfies me. I don't see an issue with investment in any product that is legitimate.

Using players as lab rats to test it is another matter and anyone who would do that needs to be crunched. And if Mcguire was involved he needs to be crunched.

 

[Stumpy Pete]

McGuire sits on the Board of David Evans’ private company Evans and Partners.

McGuire and Evans also share a Board spot on The Shane Warne Foundation.

These guys use Boards as meeting places away from the public eye.

If the company (Evans and Partners) was looking at investing in Pharmaceuticals in 2011/12, then McGuire would have knowledge, it’s a safe assumption.

Also check Tim Boreham article in The Australian from February 2010, that’s when AOD-9064 first was discussed.

To answer B&M question. Commercial media have been terrible on this. Too much focus on what the players took, not WHY the players took it.

So what are your views on the "pharmacologically experimental environment" line from Ziggy?

Aiming in the right direction or a red herring?

Regards

S. Pete

 

[Black Diamond]

McGuire sits on the Board of David Evans’ private company Evans and Partners.

McGuire and Evans also share a Board spot on The Shane Warne Foundation.

These guys use Boards as meeting places away from the public eye.

If the company (Evans and Partners) was looking at investing in Pharmaceuticals in 2011/12, then McGuire would have knowledge, it’s a safe assumption.

Also check Tim Boreham article in The Australian from February 2010, that’s when AOD-9064 first was discussed.

To answer B&M question. Commercial media have been terrible on this. Too much focus on what the players took, not WHY the players took it.

Yes, I know. I looked into this after Essendon won on Anzac Day last year and there was a lack of anger coming from Eddie. I've posted about the board stuff previously.

I had.

By 'interesting' I meant 'hardly surprising and intriguing that hopefully someone will follow the leads down towards the Westpac Centre that keep opening up then closing without any explanation'.

Gotcha.

 

[CozzaD]

So what are your views on the "pharmacologically experimental environment" line from Ziggy?

Aiming in the right direction or a red herring?

Regards

S. Pete

Hi. For Ziggy’s report, I read it at the time, and thought it was ‘light on’. He only interviewed 3 players that were selected by the Leadership Group. That’s open to interpretation (i.e. pick the players that will give you the answers YOU want).

Had another look recently, it’s more sideshow that ground-breaking. He raises some good points on Governance, but he does not incriminate the club. It’s light on to be honest.

Ziggy’s history to Essendon FC Board members I have not researched to date. Would be interesting.

 

[DERIBERATE]

Hi. For Ziggy’s report, I read it at the time, and thought it was ‘light on’. He only interviewed 3 players that were selected by the Leadership Group. That’s open to interpretation (i.e. pick the players that will give you the answers YOU want).

Had another look recently, it’s more sideshow that ground-breaking. He raises some good points on Governance, but he does not incriminate the club. It’s light on to be honest.

Ziggy’s history to Essendon FC Board members I have not researched to date. Would be interesting.

The point of the Ziggy report was for Essendon to present the image of being punished.

And boy oh boy were they punished. Especially when one of Ziggy's key findings was the football club had grown.

 

[FuManchu]

Hi. For Ziggy’s report, I read it at the time, and thought it was ‘light on’. He only interviewed 3 players that were selected by the Leadership Group. That’s open to interpretation (i.e. pick the players that will give you the answers YOU want).

Had another look recently, it’s more sideshow that ground-breaking. He raises some good points on Governance, but he does not incriminate the club. It’s light on to be honest.

Ziggy’s history to Essendon FC Board members I have not researched to date. Would be interesting.

Are ASADA after Hird?

 

[CozzaD]

Are ASADA after Hird?

Not sure. Are they the right body to be prosecuting in the first place? ATO & ASIC need to be involved also I feel.

 

[FuManchu]

Not sure. Are they the right body to be prosecuting in the first place? ATO & ASIC need to be involved also I feel.

In all of this drama. Who would you least like to be?

 

[CozzaD]

In all of this drama. Who would you least like to be?

Evans or Hird. Dunno really, depends which way things go.

 

[western royboy]

Evans or Hird. Dunno really, depends which way things go.

The potential collateral damage goes way past them........

 

[FuManchu]

Evans or Hird. Dunno really, depends which way things go.

Fair enough. Paints a picture. Did Evans or Hird initiate Danks recruitment to the club?

 

[TerryWallet]

Are ASADA after Hird?

Why else do you think the operatives are moving on to "spreading the blame" and "deflecting the blame" after the post Court Case debriefing concluded that they have failed to suppress the evidence?

* I sense you already detected this

 

[CozzaD]

Fair enough. Paints a picture. Did Evans or Hird initiate Danks recruitment to the club?

I'd say Thompson, perhaps with Evans overall approval (so Evans and Partners, the investment arm, could look at investing in pharmaceuticals). Thompson was at Geelong remember and left after Armstrong Creek deal. He brought Robinson with him.

The movements b/w Geelong and Essendon from late 2010 to mid 2012 are key in this.

 

[FuManchu]

I'd say Thompson, perhaps with Evans overall approval (so Evans and Partners, the investment arm, could look at investing in pharmaceuticals). Thompson was at Geelong remember and left after Armstrong Creek deal. He brought Robinson with him.

One last question: who shot JR?

 

[CozzaD]

One last question: who shot JR?

Who gives a shit?

 

[FuManchu]

Who gives a shit?

JR I'm guessing. It hurts