Marty Mattner

[FAITH]

Not that I am aware of. That may have been the case though.

Maybe Nicks had mates at the Swans who had passed on opinions about Marty i.e. Goodes, Kirk, Bolton?

Like Bassett, mattner can rub people up the wrong way, but they're really good blokes.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Like Bassett, mattner can rub people up the wrong way, but they're really good blokes.

Imo, healthier having a coaching group that is not afraid to question each other, so long as done with respect & ultimately get along.

Having a team of yes men is useless & may as well have less staff then.

 

[FAITH]

Imo, healthier having a coaching group that is not afraid to question each other, so long as done with respect & ultimately get along.

Having a team of yes men is useless & may as well have less staff then.

Would be good if the club were more transparent.
Would be nice if fages came out and just said why they weren't going to offer mattner a new contract.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Would be good if the club were more transparent.
Would be nice if fages came out and just said why they weren't going to offer mattner a new contract.

Yes, the current media manager has a great ability to confuse what is transparent with unnecessary ambiguity.

He would have been the 1st one I would have let go with COVID.

 

[FAITH]

Yes, the current media manager has a great ability to confuse what is transparent with unnecessary ambiguity.

He would have been the 1st one I would have let go with COVID.

 

[Doc_]

It could be they had to stagger the lay offs because of contracts and pay outs. It was mentioned he wouldnt be offered a contract extension at year end so he walked.
Surely Harts gone too.

 

[Golumless]

Given our dearth of big bodied mids, not sure why we din't just give Cam Ellis-Yolmen what he wanted to retain him.

Would have been much better to pay for Greenwood for this need. Is a more rounded player then CEY.

For the life of me, I don't understand why we let Hugh go for a 3rd round pick. He's no Jarryd Lyons type of solid foot solider but one we are well stocked in.

 

[Vhaluus]

So we've had two assistants quit in the past few years with 0 plans for where to go next.

Covid or not, that's concerning.

They'd rather be unemployed than with the AFC.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Would have been much better to pay for Greenwood for this need. Is a more rounded player then CEY.

For the life of me, I don't understand why we let Hugh go for a 3rd round pick. He's no Jarryd Lyons type of solid foot solider but one we are well stocked in.

Greenwood would play a good quarter here and there, then he'd be gassed and fade out of the game. He was never fit enough. I'd much rather CEY. He's not as versatile but he will contribute all game.

 

[Vader]

Greenwood would play a good quarter here and there, then he'd be gassed and fade out of the game. He was never fit enough. I'd much rather CEY. He's not as versatile but he will contribute all game.

I'd rather we didn't overpay either of them, preferring to give an opportunity to a young kid rather than players we already know will never be more than bit players.

How would you feel if we matched CEY's Brisbane contract - one which they're already (probably) regretting? They've paid massively for the privilege of bolstering their NEAFL team.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I'd rather we didn't overpay either of them, preferring to give an opportunity to a young kid rather than players we already know will never be more than bit players.

How would you feel if we matched CEY's Brisbane contract - one which they're already (probably) regretting? They've paid massively for the privilege of bolstering their NEAFL team.

Again, I'm not saying I rate CEY all that highly. I just think we could use a big body in there to help out while we develop our younger mids.

 

[Vader]

Again, I'm not saying I rate CEY all that highly. I just think we could use a big body in there to help out while we develop our younger mids.

I don't disagree - but the cost of retaining Greenwood and/or CEY was far too high, in terms of their contract demands.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I don't disagree - but the cost of retaining Greenwood and/or CEY was far too high, in terms of their contract demands.

The cost of not retaining him was what we saw against Sydney, a midfield getting utterly slaughtered at the centre bounce. How is that going to help our young mids develop?

 

[Vader]

The cost of not retaining him was what we saw against Sydney, a midfield getting utterly slaughtered at the centre bounce. How is that going to help our young mids develop?

CEY wouldn't have made a difference, because he wouldn't have been on the ground. He wasn't selected for Brisbane's R1 team, and wouldn't have been in ours either.

Quite frankly, I'd rather use the position to develop a youngster than waste it on a player who isn't AFL standard.

If CEY wanted anything more than a minimum $$$ 12-month contract, then the club would have been remiss in re-signing him. Brisbane offered him much more than that, so saying "sayonara" was the easiest and only option.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

CEY wouldn't have made a difference, because he wouldn't have been on the ground. He wasn't selected for Brisbane's R1 team, and wouldn't have been in ours either.

Quite frankly, I'd rather use the position to develop a youngster than waste it on a player who isn't AFL standard.

I disagree. Saying he didn't get selected at Brisbane so he wouldn't get selected at Adelaide is just an assumption and it doesn't take into account the differences in the two lists. Brisbane already have a list full of mature bodies, we don't.

 

[hey shorty]

I disagree. Saying he didn't get selected at Brisbane so he wouldn't get selected at Adelaide is just an assumption and it doesn't take into account the differences in the two lists. Brisbane already have a list full of mature bodies, we don't.

They traded for him because they didn't have enough big mids.

He isn't that good.

 

[feenix67]

They traded for him because they didn't have enough big mids.

He isn't that good.

Too easily written off imo. His stats, and the Crows W/L stats when he was played, suggest a very different rating.

Not everyone has to be a star to be valuable. I'd have rather paid CEY to stay than extended DMacs contract.

 

[Vader]

Too easily written off imo. His stats, and the Crows W/L stats when he was played, suggest a very different rating.

Not everyone has to be a star to be valuable. I'd have rather paid CEY to stay than extended DMacs contract.

I'd rather we culled both of them.

 

[lincsPJ]

Did mattner tell the board he wasn’t going to partake in hub shenanigans?

 

[BRL121]

Too easily written off imo. His stats, and the Crows W/L stats when he was played, suggest a very different rating.

Not everyone has to be a star to be valuable. I'd have rather paid CEY to stay than extended DMacs contract.

Agreed. He had finally paid off after the extensive development and was consistently one of our better players in 2018-2019, recognised by the commentariat, e.g., Roos, until his mysterious "injury", which never seemed to resolve. Is there any chance CEY was an example of the mental problems in the side in the latter half of 2019, or was his injury genuine? Does anybody have any info on that?

 

[Dudersaurus]

Agreed. He had finally paid off after the extensive development and was consistently one of our better players in 2018-2019, recognised by the commentariat, e.g., Roos, until his mysterious "injury", which never seemed to resolve. Is there any chance CEY was an example of the mental problems in the side in the latter half of 2019, or was his injury genuine? Does anybody have any info on that?

From memory without looking anything up, I didn't think there was much mystery. I thought he had a tibial impact injury with ?subperiosteal haematoma and stress reaction that didn't settle as well as hoped. They can be very painful and limit running capacity and he struggled to regain fitness.

Obviously though it was a conspiracy.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Did mattner tell the board he wasn’t going to partake in hub shenanigans?

That's an interesting question

 

[BRL121]

From memory without looking anything up, I didn't think there was much mystery. I thought he had a tibial impact injury with ?subperiosteal haematoma and stress reaction that didn't settle as well as hoped. They can be very painful and limit running capacity and he struggled to regain fitness.

Obviously though it was a conspiracy.

I didn't at the time, just later, in retrospect, considering all the other goings on, I thought it a question worth asking.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

From memory without looking anything up, I didn't think there was much mystery. I thought he had a tibial impact injury with ?subperiosteal haematoma and stress reaction that didn't settle as well as hoped. They can be very painful and limit running capacity and he struggled to regain fitness.

Obviously though it was a conspiracy.

From memory he was listed as "bruised shin 1-2 weeks" for a month before anyone questioned it. That drifted on for 6+ weeks and eventually we admitted that he'd fractured his leg and it was season over.

The conspiracy part was us trying to downplay another injury like we did with all those hamstrings.

 

[1970crow]

Seriously mate, do you have a non cynical comment to make at any stage ??

The same people that rated Pyke, Campo and Burton highly, right to the bitter end, were responsible for Nicksy’s recruitment. Cynicism is warranted I’d have thought. Any normal thinking person would be expecting the worst but pleasantly surprised if he turns out to be good.