Marxist AFL?

[Denverdog]

What is the deal with the AFL? They go from the home team keeps the gate to everybody shares all. It's like they're manic depressives or something. Hello. Will someone over there in Australia get the commisioner to come over here and sit down with the NFL.
The NFL is the best run league. Copy that and everything will be fine.

 

[Goldenblue]

Originally posted by Denverdog
The NFL is the best run league. Copy that and everything will be fine.

Depends on which side of the fence you sit on.

The AFL does have its problems with its idea of socialist football, but if all clubs are on equal billing, then there should be a divided share for both clubs.

50-50 I think is fair.

 

[Denverdog]

The fence doesn't have anything to do with it. Essendon and Collingwood may not want to share profits because they are currently on top but that's no way to run a league. Go to a 24 rd season where everyone plays home and away and split the gate 50-50 for each game, not for the whole season. That way there is still incentive for teams to promote the games etc. Pooling all gate revenue from all games into one big sluch fund is just as stupid as letting the home teams keep the gate.
I've decided that the AFL is a hopeless cause. Where's Kevin "We need a Rules Change" Sheedy when you need him?

 

[Pessimistic]

A guy on AFL.COM said the same but is it really a capitalist soceity ? Where is genuine price competition on fuel for cars etc ?

The AFL is a small competition exposed to global markets and the competition exists between it and other forms of entertainment.

Take Movies and the arts for example. Some films make megabuks but the actors might have started out in an arty theatre somewhere which is heavily subsidised.


It's a good call by the AFL, and the fact that they are going to take the time to get it as right as possible is a good sign.

But let's not forget one thing. They ar going to subsidise games at venues where the costs are too high. Thats code for colonial stadium. That place is causing all these problems and its not marxism there, its capitalism at its worst. Or' to put it another way
"build it and they wull stay away in droves"

 

[Frodo]

IMO Equalisation = propping up economically unsound clubs that should be 'GONE' and prevents a 26 round 'fair' competition evolving where each team plays each other twice.

I hear Saints want to play a 'home' game at the Gabba. Now that's grossly unfair. Why should they get 12 home games and WCE only 11.

What are gate receipts? Eg.....only 3000 tickets are available at the gate at WCE games so is that what is going 50/50? Or is the suggestion that 50% of my membership cost goes to a pool for other clubs. In which case Noooo......my membership is intended for Eagles.......as it is a fair whack is diverted to the WAFC to prop up Freo and I don't like that!!!!!!!
Let the clubs sell the tickets. EG Essendon v Kangaroos. Essendon sells tickets to their supporters and Kangaroos to theirs. Each keeps the money from ticket sales. If a club wants to increase income then they do some marketing rather than begging.

 

[Mead]

Fact is there are just too many economically unsound clubs operating in melbourne. It might not even be those clubs faults, its just that the number of football fans is not enough to support the number of clubs. I don't have a problem with the AFL propping up clubs that are in short term trouble, but realistically, there is *always* going to be serious problems with one or two melbourne clubs, no matter how much money you funnel in, because when it comes right down to it, there just isn't enough fans to go around. Case in point the bulldogs- They are struggling, so the AFL gives them some funds to keep them above board for another year or so. At the end of that year, they're still making a loss. So the AFL gives them some more money. And at the end of that year they're *still* making a loss. Primarily, if you aren't making profits at the gates, and there is no prospect of you doing so some time in the future, why prolong the agony?

 

[Thrawn666]

Yes I agree with the two previous posts on this matter, why should we have to pay to prop up unfinancial clubs ? It's just delaying the inevitable.

 

[Voice of Reason]

I would like to see as many of the old VFL clubs survive as possible and am prepared for some equalisation policies to ensure that desirable end. However, I do believe that part of the answer lies in partial relocation - ie St Kilda playing some games in Queensland, Bulldogs also somewhere else, and Kangaroos in Canberra. In that process, the travelling and fairness needs of teams like us needs to be considered too.