Review Match review V Richmond, Rd 1
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does anyone know where the heck i can get some video highlights from when overseas this is messed up
Like those 2 points.
I'm starting to realise that it is our midfielders who are having some issues learning how to kick to a non-Fev forward line. With Fev as the main target, their decision making was pretty straight forward, and they only needed to focus on the execution. Now they have 3 tall targets, plus Eddie and Yarran floating around. Selecting the right option ain't so easy now. Saw several occasions when the forwards led nicely, but the midfielders chose the wrong option. It's just going to take time for this new structure to settle.
And yes, we always flop when we go defensive. Not just this year, but last year as well. We're a naturally very attacking side, who is trying to add a defensive dimension. Don't think there's anything wrong with applying the breaks from time to time, it's just that we're hopeless at it, and do it when we didn't need to. Attack is the best form of defense sometimes.
For what it's worth, I also think that Robert Walls was disgraceful last night. Sunk the boot in at every opportunity. You got the impression he was hoping players like Lachie Henderson and Robbie Warnock stuffed up, such was his unrelenting negativity.
At one point Walls was gravely declaring that Warnock had to come off the ground because his fitness levels weren't up to it, and lo and behold, Warnock popped up in the next passage of play with a strong mark.
At least he's not biased...
At one point Walls was gravely declaring that Warnock had to come off the ground because his fitness levels weren't up to it, and lo and behold, Warnock popped up in the next passage of play with a strong mark.
At least he's not biased...
For what it's worth, I also think that Robert Walls was disgraceful last night. Sunk the boot in at every opportunity. You got the impression he was hoping players like Lachie Henderson and Robbie Warnock stuffed up, such was his unrelenting negativity.
At one point Walls was gravely declaring that Warnock had to come off the ground because his fitness levels weren't up to it, and lo and behold, Warnock popped up in the next passage of play with a strong mark.
At least he's not biased...
Walls is a complete tool ..Tim Lane is not much better ..terrible terrible commentators ...quarterbrain is also garbage.
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Skills are still the problem for Joey, and at this stage I'm afraid they always will be. I can't see the same potential that Russell has - understandable given their different draft positions.
Busting packs is something he could have done more of last night. Was caught more than once holding back when others would have slammed into defenders caught under the ball. Otherwise very good. Needs to be spoon-fed into leading sometimes (a la the gimme from Betts), and generally must become more assertive to be a real full forward. I still prefer him up the ground at CHF, but he did OK last night.
I thought he was well behind Hammer and Jacobs in the ruck stakes and last night only confirmed it. Mobility around the ground doesn't make up for being smashed at centre bounces. He consistently mistimed his leap and left us sharking Simmond's taps whenever he was there. The seniors isn't the place to learn the basics, it's back to Preston for him.
Yep, the mistimed leaps were VERY frustrating. Plus his leap seemed almost non-existent, which negated his height advantage. I wouldn't be disappointed if Hampson came in, but I can't see it happening. Reckon Warnock will be an automatic selection for at least 3 weeks.
My preferred combo is Kruezer and Hampson. I liked the way they worked together last year.
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Same here. Jacobs & Special a close second.
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A few of my observations
1. With the game style we played with last night I think we would have kicked the same amount of goals with Fev. In other words we had a game plan that didn't rely on 1 forward and last night it worked well
2. I know it's only the first round but there were to many turnovers, particularly when not under pressure. 3+ on the fulls when the player kicking wasn't under pressure that the player he was kicking to was on his own. Against top quality teams any turnover will almost certainly cost you a goal. WE MUST HIT OUR TARGETS. The top teams hit their targets most of the time and that has a lot to do with why they are the top teams
3. This tempo style of play of kicking back and switching worked well last night (partly due to Richmond letting us play like that). It won't work to well against teams with strong zones like Hawthorn, St Kilda, Adelaide, Geelong etc..I hope Ratten has other game plans to use against such teams
1. With the game style we played with last night I think we would have kicked the same amount of goals with Fev. In other words we had a game plan that didn't rely on 1 forward and last night it worked well
2. I know it's only the first round but there were to many turnovers, particularly when not under pressure. 3+ on the fulls when the player kicking wasn't under pressure that the player he was kicking to was on his own. Against top quality teams any turnover will almost certainly cost you a goal. WE MUST HIT OUR TARGETS. The top teams hit their targets most of the time and that has a lot to do with why they are the top teams
3. This tempo style of play of kicking back and switching worked well last night (partly due to Richmond letting us play like that). It won't work to well against teams with strong zones like Hawthorn, St Kilda, Adelaide, Geelong etc..I hope Ratten has other game plans to use against such teams
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I thought it worked really well, really we've only just started to get an understanding of players being the right positions, what i did notice was that players were willing to sacrifice their own game by running and opening up space behind them, some time the ball carries didn't pick it up as much, another was being able to kick out from FB with precision passing even when the heat was on, our game plan relies on depth touch and you will notice it is getting better just watch the first 7min of the game. It won't always work, but they'll come away from the game knowing better for it
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New season, new coach, new players, new game plan .............
So what has changed ......... Same old toothless Tigers HBF !!!!!
A good result overall by our Baby Boys but very disappointed that we allowed them to kick goals in junk time in the first half. This is something that needs to be worked on as we cannot allow this to happen against the better teams.
Very pleased with McLean, gee I thought it was Ratts out there for a moment.
Warnock needs to build more confidence as he looked lost in some passages of play, but given time he will be outstanding. Turnovers are very costly, & from one turnover, it gave the Tigers momentum & allowed them to kick 3 goals in 5 minutes in the 1st qtr.
Kreuzer & 206 ran rings around the Tigers rucks.
Absolutely wrapped with Waite's performance last night & as you say HBF that he got through it fine & same goes for Murph.
Pleasing to see that we had 11 goal kickers & with Garlett being available soon, we will have 3 exciting players in the forward line in Betts, Garlett & Yarran.
Went home very happy but very low key as it was only the 1st game of the season.
I even watched the replay on Foxtel when I got home.
Great win by the boys & congrats to Carrots & TBird on their milestones.
Good luck to Simmo next week as Captain & hopefully another win.
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That's a nice simplistic view of things.......rd 1, without Fev, Judd and Stevo and some cobwebs to blow out and a completely new forward structure on display for the first time.
Also hard to maintain that intensity for 120 minutes unless you have a seasoned, experienced squad full of top-shelf talent.....we're not quite there yet. Richmond were always going to come at some stage. Apart from the two 10 mintue lapses we were well on top all night.
Far more positives than negatives.
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Also hard to maintain that intensity for 120 minutes unless you have a seasoned, experienced squad full of top-shelf talent.....we're not quite there yet. Richmond were always going to come at some stage. Apart from the two 10 mintue lapses we were well on top all night.
Far more positives than negatives.
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Pros:
1. Kruezer is in fantastic form, he runs hard, jumps high, the best I have ever seen him.
2. Eddie Betts being our "go to" man. Many opposition will have a hard time stopping him.
3. Yarran - starting to pick up the speed of AFL
4. Scotland as a midfielder instead of doing rebound as a back-flank.
5. Gibbs and Murphy, I thought they were quite slow and have gone backwards during the pre-seaon games, now I know why - because they were simply holding back, didn't want to show all the cards during the pre-season.
6. Waite - doesn't even look like he had a knee reconstruction.
7. No Judd and Fevola - still manage to have a great win like this
Cons
1. Jamison's shoulder
2. Henderon and Setanta - they were good, but still a long way to go, hopefully they play ever game for the rest of the season.
3. Anderson
1. Kruezer is in fantastic form, he runs hard, jumps high, the best I have ever seen him.
2. Eddie Betts being our "go to" man. Many opposition will have a hard time stopping him.
3. Yarran - starting to pick up the speed of AFL
4. Scotland as a midfielder instead of doing rebound as a back-flank.
5. Gibbs and Murphy, I thought they were quite slow and have gone backwards during the pre-seaon games, now I know why - because they were simply holding back, didn't want to show all the cards during the pre-season.
6. Waite - doesn't even look like he had a knee reconstruction.
7. No Judd and Fevola - still manage to have a great win like this
Cons
1. Jamison's shoulder
2. Henderon and Setanta - they were good, but still a long way to go, hopefully they play ever game for the rest of the season.
3. Anderson
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not sure I'd call Hendo and Carlos a con. both have tremendous work-rates and compete well at ground level. parrot said, Carlos created a couple of scoring opportunities by providing a 50/50 contest where other tall forwards may have not...Lachie showed a glimpse of how good he is on the lead......he's still a pup
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He would be happier as we wasn't given many opportunities at Brisbane.
Hey zee who wouldn't be happy to play alongside Judd, Gibbs, Murphy & Kreuzer
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