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Matchups -v- Collingwood

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shacka

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May 20, 2004
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Just reading some posts on the ins and outs for next week and thing people are being a little short sighted.

The game is still a week away and the Bullants game isn't done yet so it's probably premature, but i'd take O'hAlpin in for Russell at this point. Russell was probably brought in against the Dons for pace and it didn't pay off. Collingwood aren't as quick so he's probably not the best player to have in next weekend.

Thought i'd give some perspective on some match-ups i'd like to see next week, for the sake of focussed discussion.

Backline...

Waite on Cloke: Assuming Cloke plays more up the ground than Rocca. Will be able to run with him and off him. Should be a good battle.

O'hAlpin on Rocca: Good match up for size. Don't think Jamieson is right for either Rocca or Cloke. O'hAlpin could also cause some potentical problems for Rocca if he gets the chance to run him around.

Jamieson on Medhurst: Medhurst is in good form, good to see a little pressure off Jammo in terms of size. Like to see him take on a forward without conceeding a height disadvantage.

Mids...

Bannister on Thomas/Didak: Bannister seems the goto tagger, has played on mids and small forwards. He can certainly keep up with either, he has the tank. Speed might be an issue but if Bannister can stick to either and cut down their possessions then that will be a big help. I'm probably leaning towards Didak.

Hadley on Swaw: Hadley did a good job last night. Like to see him run with Swaw, seems like a good match up for height and pace.

Scotland on Lockyer/Shaw

Carrazzo on Davis: Davis could be a headache. This match-up could work if we get on top and Davis is forced to be accountable to Carrots. If the Pies are on top i might move Simpson onto him.

Forwards...

Like to see Freddie play the majority down forward, rotating with Cloke and Hampson. Three rucks, who can all go forward might be an advantage in running Fraser and Wood about.

Fevola -v- Brown: Hopefully the form can continue, could cause some headaches for the inexperienced Brown, which could cause some issues for the pies.

That probably leaves Waklin and Maxwell to take Fisher and the resting ruckman, oppotunity here for a nice miss-match as Waklin lacks a bit of nip and Maxwell will tend to play loose.

The temptation here is also to bring in Edwards or Hartlett to try and further gain an advantage up forward, but i'm not conviced that either can capitalise.

Judd also to keep playing more in the forward line.

Had to get this out of my system, for what it's worth.
 
O'Hailpin is getting smashed by the Reiwoldt in the Ants. leave him there till he gets some form. Scarlett is no bigger than Jamo. No reason why he can't play on the big guys.

Jamo on Rocca
Waite on Cloke
 
i see where you're coming from, but Reiwoldt is more nimble than Rocca

true there is little difference in size between Jammo and Scarlett, but there is a fair divide when it comes to experience
 

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Based on our game last night, and Collingwood's raping of Richmond, next week's game could be a 100 point hiding.

I can understand how you would think that. Personally, I thought last night meant that we are getting closer and last night was a giant leap. When Judd and Stevo set the example, the rest follow. So, our success hinges on Judd and/or Stevo. Next week they willl be x% fitter and more capable of setting the standard. Following from that, the rest will lift further to reach the new standard.

Many wins are not far away.
 
I can understand how you would think that. Personally, I thought last night meant that we are getting closer and last night was a giant leap. When Judd and Stevo set the example, the rest follow. So, our success hinges on Judd and/or Stevo. Next week that will he x% fitter and more capable of setting the standard. Following from that, the rest will lift further to reach the new standard.

Many wins are not far away.
Finally some common sense.
Hats off my friend
 
I can understand how you would think that. Personally, I thought last night meant that we are getting closer and last night was a giant leap. When Judd and Stevo set the example, the rest follow. So, our success hinges on Judd and/or Stevo. Next week they willl be x% fitter and more capable of setting the standard. Following from that, the rest will lift further to reach the new standard.

Many wins are not far away.
Can see or can't see?? Carlton's free-flowing, non-defensive game style; up against Collingwood's super-disciplined, sharply skilled side. If they can shut down our run and cause us to move the ball forward slowly, ala the St Kilda game, they will murder us. We look good when allowed to run free, but when opposition shut us down, we're very poor.
 
I'd go for:

Jamison on Cloke
Waite on Rocca
Banno on Thomas
Hadley on Didak
Scotland on Davis

Then let Collingwood worry themselves about who they are going to man up on Judd, Stevens, Murphy and Simpson.

Please Brett Ratten and co. get Simmo back onto the wing, with Gibbs on the other.
 
Our defensive lineup is still not right. Our KP defenders are fine, but when the ball hits the deck we have struggled, because we have been using unaccountable midfielder types to mind the opposition small forwards. Selecting players like Joey Anderson, Armfield and Browne will certainly help. Our midfield is way more talented than the Pies, but we need our defense to tighten up to capitalize on that advantage. :)
 
Can see or can't see?? Carlton's free-flowing, non-defensive game style; up against Collingwood's super-disciplined, sharply skilled side. If they can shut down our run and cause us to move the ball forward slowly, ala the St Kilda game, they will murder us. We look good when allowed to run free, but when opposition shut us down, we're very poor.

I CAN see how you would think that. Instinctually, I feel the same way.

But

Logically, many wins are not far away. After round 6 I'd reckon.
 

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I'd go for:

Jamison on Cloke
Waite on Rocca
Banno on Thomas
Hadley on Didak
Scotland on Davis

Then let Collingwood worry themselves about who they are going to man up on Judd, Stevens, Murphy and Simpson.

Please Brett Ratten and co. get Simmo back onto the wing, with Gibbs on the other.

!st 3 matchups OK, last 2 I can't have.


Didak would slaughter Hadley.

Scotland should be dropped.


Will need a matchup for Medhurst as well.
 
fev on young brown should be a corker. he's done well on 3 gun forwards in pavlich, brown and now richo, but fev is a different kettle of fish so to speak. we've seen fev kick 8 on two premiership winning backmen, who it is said are in the twilight of their careers, but are still dam good backmen.

should be interesting to see how young brown goes on, whichever fevola shows up on sunday arvo.
 
I'd go for:

Jamison on Cloke
Waite on Rocca
Banno on Thomas
Hadley on Didak
Scotland on Davis

Then let Collingwood worry themselves about who they are going to man up on Judd, Stevens, Murphy and Simpson.

Please Brett Ratten and co. get Simmo back onto the wing, with Gibbs on the other.

Who do you think thornton would play on?
My Suggestion would be medhurst


Im happy with waite on rocca

Jammo on Cloke (maybe swap wit thornton if not working)

Banno on Thomas?? Im worried about that....thomas is too clever/quick and nimble for him dont know what the answer is there (maybe banno can hit him hard and intimidate him early)

Didak...maybe Scotland? worried about that match up, scotland has to run off get dangerous make him accountable.

Davis = i would get armfield into the side, tell him to stick like glue to him, Armo is quick enough, tough ask for a 1st gamer I know but I dont see anyone else that can keep up with him.

If they throw Wood or fraser down there maybe bring on bower, switch with waite maybe, but i dont think we'll be stretched in regards to their talls.
Worries are Didak, davis and of course our defensive pressure skills of our midfielders.
We're more than a chance though.
 

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the clearance stats were interesting from the collingwood -v- richmond game, given that clearances are probably one of our "strengths" these days, it gives us something to work with...a good set of match-up's down back is needed if we're going to use this potential edge to its full advantage
 
Setanta - Rocca
Waite - Cloke
Medhurst - Jamison
Reid/Anthony - Thornton

I'd tend to agree with this set up in defence and bring in Armfield or Anderson to play on Davis.

I'd also play Bannister on Heath Shaw across the half back line to shut him down and hurt him by kicking a few goals.
 
From my perspective, I'd see us matching your key players up like this:

Rhyce Shaw to run with Judd. He's done okay on him in the past, but Judd will still win it.

Brown to take Fevola, which I am extremely worried about. Fev is very quick, and Brown can be caught out of position. I'm much happier playing him against the gorillas.

Goldsack to take Brad Fisher.

O'Brien to take Betts again.

Wakelin or Maxwell to take the other tall, whether it be the resting ruckman or Waite if he goes down there.

Not sure who Heath Shaw will play on, but I would assume you guys will throw someone on to him. He tends to get tagged across half-back on occasion.

Murphy seems to thrive against us, so wouldn't mind throwing someone onto him as well, possibly Ben Johnson (or Clarke if he comes in).
 
Based on our game last night, and Collingwood's raping of Richmond, next week's game could be a 100 point hiding.

I will be very suprised, for some reason we do not hammer teams that are down on form. Also it is really your backline that is weak and if Judd and co fire in the midfield it could become a real shootout, which will probably suit you more than us given our midfield. Hard one to be 100% confident of either way 3 weeks into the year.
 
As far as I'm concerned, the midfield will end up with a few interesting match ups.

Lockyer vs Simpson
Pendlebury vs Stevens
Didak vs Gibbs
O'Bree vs Murphy
Burns vs Judd
Swan vs Scotland

Of these six match ups, the only one I'd be too concerned about is Judd. Looks to have lost pace from last season's injury, so I'd put Burns on him, try to rough him up a bit, and, failing that, I'd look at having Holland or Johnson in the wings to try to quell his influence. Murphy should give O'Bree a bath this week, but O'Bree is pivotal in giving Collingwood the clearence. Pendlebury should be too quick for Stevens, Didak'll force Gibbs to be accountable in defence, and Swan and Scotland will run off each other and rack up touches, providing nuisance value. Wood to match Kreuzer in the ruck, and Fraser to ruck against Cloke to exploit him around the ground. :thumbsu:
 

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