Matt Crouch is just a plodder.

[port_adelaide_1870]

Notice how Poort_Power_1997 is the only Puffer still arguing the case for DBJ being better

It's stating facts mate, not arguing. Darcy clearly better

 

[Bernie L]

Notice how Poort_Power_1997 is the only Puffer still arguing the case for DBJ being better

Yup, and he does have that ring of D_One Johnny Jnr Eddie Dingle

 

[Bernie L]

It's stating facts mate, not arguing. Darcy clearly better

C'mon flog, show us all your facts!!

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

No, you have a clue alright. You know your current list is shit, and Port signed up plodders on 5 year deals.

Port wont be anywhere near a premiership window for at least 6 years!

You got what you wanted to say, congrats now can you stay on topic

 

[Bernie L]

You got what you wanted to say, congrats now can you stay on topic

Facts flog, show us all your facts!!!

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Facts flog, show us all your facts!!!

Congrats on actually staying on topic! Must be new for you.

I have gone through the stats? Facts are his stats show he is already an above average HBF, stats show that S.Crouch has good numbers but isn't being that effective. As I said before despite kicking two on the weekend he barely kicks goals, his goal assist and scoring involvement numbers aren't up too it compared to other midfielders with similar numbers, there has been talk he needs to improve his defensive side of the game, he is just a handball midfielder. Darcy is a penetrating hbf, similar to bob murphy. His foot skills are crazy good averaging 81% DE in his 11 games (that's with averaging more kicks then handballs) compared to Spuds 70% DE (that's with averaging a lot more handballs then kicks, you would think his % would be higher considering it's easier to hit someone with a handball then kick). It's also good too note that spuds first 11 games numbers are very very similar to DBJ despite playing midfield. He is an average midfielder, if you were gunna start a new team from scratch and had to pick a midfield his name wouldn't be in the top 150. If you had to pick a HB line, Darcy already would be in the top 20 at least.

Crouch is VERY easy to replace, Darcy is not. Darcys value to the team is hard to replace, crouchs is not. That's the facts. Deal with them

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

And to add a little stat, Crouch has been dropped many times. Since DBJ has made his debut he has not been close to being dropped

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

I'm not sure what's more embarrassing - the Bob Murphy comparison or being unable to spell a two letter word.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

I'm not sure what's more embarrassing - the Bob Murphy comparison or being unable to spell a two letter word.

I said he is similar damaging/penetrating HBF with good kicking skills, what's the problem? Are you saying they both don't have good foot skills?

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Damaging? Yeah his rebounding off half back is really damaging at the moment isn't it? Where are you in the ladder again?

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Damaging? Yeah his rebounding off half back is really damaging at the moment isn't it? Where are you in the ladder again?

So you're telling me you don't think Darcy is a damaging half back flanker?

Literally that is his role for the team, if you don't think so clearly you don't watch port.

Like me saying R.Sloane isn't a contested/damaging midfielder. He is, we both know he is, that's his role.

 

[lozstar]

I said he is similar damaging/penetrating HBF with good kicking skills, what's the problem? Are you saying they both don't have good foot skills?

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

So you're telling me you don't think Darcy is a damaging half back flanker?

Yes that's what I'm telling you. Could he be? Sure. Is he now? Absolutely not.

Literally that is his role for the team, if you don't think so clearly you don't watch port.

Like me saying R.Sloane isn't a contested/damaging midfielder. He is, we both know he is, that's his role.

Yeah well maybe when DBJ has the runs on the board like Sloane you can make a case. As of right now, you can't. And if you think that's just my bias, go on and make a poll where all the neutrals can vote. But you won't will you?

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Next people will be saying pittard isn't a penetrating HBF coz coz coz... Well... Look at the ladder... LOLs... Port are ninth

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Yes that's what I'm telling you. Could he be? Sure. Is he now? Absolutely not.



Yeah well maybe when DBJ has the runs on the board like Sloane you can make a case. As of right now, you can't. And if you think that's just my bias, go on and make a poll where all the neutrals can vote. But you won't will you?

literally there is no debate in this. DBJ is a running HBF with damaging and penetrating foot skills, statistics back that up. If you cant understand this then youre right you're bias.

A players role has nothing to do with runs on the board etc

 

[Golumless]

Congrats on actually staying on topic! Must be new for you.

I have gone through the stats? Facts are his stats show he is already an above average HBF, stats show that S.Crouch has good numbers but isn't being that effective. As I said before despite kicking two on the weekend he barely kicks goals, his goal assist and scoring involvement numbers aren't up too it compared to other midfielders with similar numbers, there has been talk he needs to improve his defensive side of the game, he is just a handball midfielder. Darcy is a penetrating hbf, similar too bob murphy. His foot skills are crazy good averaging 81% DE in his 11 games (that's with averaging more kicks then handballs) compared too Spuds 70% DE (that's with averaging a lot more handballs then kicks, you would think his % would be higher considering it's easier to hit someone with a handball then kick). It's also good too note that spuds first 11 games numbers are very very similar to DBJ despite playing midfield. He is an average midfielder, if you were gunna start a new team from scratch and had to pick a midfield his name wouldn't be in the top 150. If you had too pick a HB line, Darcy already would be in the top 20 at least.

Crouch is VERY easy to replace, Darcy is not. Darcys value to the team is hard to replace, crouchs is not. That's the facts. Deal with them

Yep, player who averages 26 touches and 6 clearances is easy to replace, whereas an unaccountable chip scab with an ok leg isn't?

Matt Crouch would be your best midfielder right now with the numbers he produces, and he's only doing it of 70% TOG. Not a big meters gained player, but at 21 is already in the top 20 for both clearances per game and contested possessions per game. Best part is, he's not a man child like Wines, so actually has scope for improvement when he adds kilos. After all, he's doing this and is only three kgs heavier than Darcy.

To put it bluntly, and simply so you can follow. This is a kid that has just about every tool required to develop into one of the best pure inside midfielders for the next decade (Thommo/Priddis clone).

We compare this to a soon to be 21 year old, who currently wouldn't break into our side.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Yes that's what I'm telling you. Could he be? Sure. Is he now? Absolutely not.

In short, I am saying (with statistics backing my opinion up) you're wrong. Right now he is

 

[Golumless]

literally there is no debate in this. DBJ is a running HBF with damaging and penetrating foot skills, statistics back that up. If you cant understand this then youre right you're bias.

A players role has nothing to do with runs on the board etc

There is no statistic in existence that can back that up to a good degree.

%DE has flaws that it counts kicking to a 50-50 contest as an effective disposal, meters gained has the issue that it's a territory stat and therefore doesn't care how good the disposal is.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Yep, player who averages 26 touches and 6 clearances is easy to replace, whereas an unaccountable chip scab with an ok leg isn't?

Matt Crouch would be your best midfielder right now with the numbers he produces, and he's only doing it of 70% TOG. Not a big meters gained player, but at 21 is already in the top 20 for both clearances per game and contested possessions per game. Best part is, he's not a man child like Wines, so actually has scope for improvement when he adds kilos. After all, he's doing this and is only three kgs heavier than Darcy.

To put it bluntly, and simply so you can follow. This is a kid that has just about every tool required to develop into one of the best pure inside midfielders for the next decade (Thommo/Priddis clone).

We compare this to a soon to be 21 year old, who currently wouldn't break into our side.

Stopped reading at this statement, proves you don't watch port. Thus your opinion becomes obsolete. From recent memory he kept Walters to 0 goals, Garlett to 1 goal 9 touches, Hill (west coast) 1 goal, Christensen 0 goals Lloyd 0 goals etc

Try again

 

[lozstar]

Stopped reading at this statement, proves you don't watch port. Thus your opinion becomes obsolete. From recent memory he kept Walters to 0 goals, Garlett to 1 goal 9 touches, Hill (west coast) 1 goal, Christensen 0 goals Lloyd 0 goals etc

Try again

Woah hes tearing it up

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

There is no statistic in existence that can back that up to a good degree.

%DE has flaws that it counts kicking to a 50-50 contest as an effective disposal, meters gained has the issue that it's a territory stat and therefore doesn't care how good the disposal is.

If you flogs are questioning Darcys foot skills clearly you haven't been watching port. Statistics whether you want to debate them or not back me up. And guess what :O I have watched every port game this year, i have seen him play every game. Here a conclusion for you: he is an elite kick.

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

You're truly delusional if you think DBJ is damaging. Why won't you make a poll if you're so sure DBJ is better?

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Woah hes tearing it up

Doing his job on his oppo. While being a damaging HBF. Certainly is.

To suggest he is unaccountable is stupid

 

[Bernie L]

So you're telling me you don't think Darcy is a damaging half back flanker?

Literally that is his role for the team, if you don't think so clearly you don't watch port.

Like me saying R.Sloane isn't a contested/damaging midfielder. He is, we both know he is, that's his role.

Mate, he is ordinary. Youre the only Port flog, flogging this dead horse!!

There's a good reason for that!!

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

You're truly delusional if you think DBJ is damaging. Why won't you make a poll if you're so sure DBJ is better?

How do you not think he is? Honestly how he is not? You are completely bias if you don't think he is. Are you saying no youngster can be damaging because they don't have runs on the board? If that's what you think then no wonder you support the crows, because you're not all up there are you.

He is a running HBF with damaging foot skills, how is he not a damaging HBF?