Max Hudghton

[mighty_west]

You generally need to have your arms in the air and be looking at the ball to mark too.

If you look carefully, you can tell Grant had tucked his arms in to minimise contact, he was in the air because he was initually going for the mark.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Joffa about time 'Max' learnt to protect himself which is all Grant did, Grant di not see him until he was in the air, whats he meant to do leave himself open so he is in hospital instead?

I tend to agree. Max seems to make a habit of putting himself in the wrong positions and with limited protection. No wonder he's always injured.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Not much difference between the Milburn Silvangi incident, and Milburn got absolutely burned for that.

This was a TOTALLY different situation. In that case Milburn was not in the contest and never had eyes for the ball, only SOS.

 

[Leon]

Just saw the replay. Grant was in mid air and targeted Max's head with a tucked in elbow. No intention of going for the ball. Could have pulled out of the hit. Absolute Dog act.

I have always felt sorry for Grant missing the Brownlow in 97. Not anymore. Should get a couple for his dog act.

Joffaboy, Grant only had half a second, if that, to realise he was on collision course with Hudghton. What was he supposed to do?

To say he targeted Hudghton is ridiculous, he was going for the ball, he couldn't avoid collisiion unless he backed away from the contest and Grant just isn't the sort of player that targets the man and not the ball.

 

[Joffaboy]

Joffaboy, Grant only had half a second, if that, to realise he was on collision course with Hudghton. What was he supposed to do?

To say he targeted Hudghton is ridiculous, he was going for the ball, he couldn't avoid collisiion unless he backed away from the contest and Grant just isn't the sort of player that targets the man and not the ball.

He should have attempted to mark the ball. Instead he tucked in the elbow and attacked Hudghtons head while off the ground.

If Pickett gets six for a bump that didn't hurt Begley, what should the dog get for putting a player in hospital for a charging into his back and head?

Even if his intention was to protect himself he was off the ground and used his body in a H&S while not going for the ball. He took his eyes off the ball and targeted the undefended player, just like Pickett.

If he doesn't get weeks for his reckless act the tribunal and AFl is a joke.

Guerra got three last year for a bump on a player when he wasn't going for the ball, luckily Ling wasn't put into hospital. Unfortunately for Hudghton Grants act put him in the back of an ambulance.

 

[eddiesmith]

Hudghton was injured on impact with the ground, not by Grant. If he goes for this its a ********ing joke, even though he would miss the rd 1 game v Collingwood

 

[sainter]

You generally need to have your arms in the air and be looking at the ball to mark too.

That would be my only concern for Grant. Everyone is saying he was going for the mark but even before Max had touched the ball Grant never had his arms raised to mark the ball.

I remember an incident against Sydney a few years ago where Brett Voss jumped to spoil the mark, the Sydney player marked it, and Voss crashed into the player. The contact wasn't violent but a 50 metre was given. He was already in the air when the player marked it and I remembered being ********ed off at the time because there was nothing he could do. This will be a very interesting one for the new panel. You'd reckon their judgement will have a significant impact on how defenders and forwards play from now on.

There's nothing for Saints supporters to gain by wanting Grant suspended. All we should care about is Max's welfare and once again salute his courage.

Morgoth you can't teach someone to pull out of contests. He certainly puts himself in some vulnerable positions but to tell him not too would only make him second guess himself.

 

[mighty_west]

He should have attempted to mark the ball. Instead he tucked in the elbow and attacked Hudghtons head while off the ground.

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Exactly, had he left the arm or elbow out, he probably would have ended up with 4 or 5 weeks, but he didn't.

Once he realised there was going to be contact in that split second, he tucked his elbow in to minimise contact, he was in mid air, couldn't exactly pull out from the position he was in.

 

[eddiesmith]

If it did go, then it should be

Negligent (1)
High (3)
In Play (1)
Body (1)

Therefore 6 activation points or 225 points. A 1 match suspension if he accepts it and pleads Guilty. 2 weeks if he contests (Not taking into account his record if he has one)

 

[wishbone]

If it did go, then it should be

Negligent (1)
High (3)
In Play (1)
Body (1)

Therefore 6 activation points or 225 points. A 1 match suspension if he accepts it and pleads Guilty. 2 weeks if he contests (Not taking into account his record if he has one)

Should, but who knows. They may give it a severe impact ruling, considering he was put down and went off on a stretcher.

Who knows by what arbitrary system they measure intent by.

Hopefully he'll get off.

 

[Blues_Man]

I was at the game and seen the hit (although it was at the other end of the ground ) it just seemed like both players hit in a marking contest .
but after seeing the replay on TV tonight ..grant turns his eyes to Max , i think he will get 2 weeks for a reckless bump .
although having said that i wouldn't be surprised if he gets off

 

[Stakerz]

He got absolutely HAMMERED!!

 

[stefoid]

Just saw the replay. Grant was in mid air and targeted Max's head with a tucked in elbow. No intention of going for the ball. Could have pulled out of the hit. Absolute Dog act.

I have always felt sorry for Grant missing the Brownlow in 97. Not anymore. Should get a couple for his dog act.

offs, get off whatever youre taking and buy the good stuff.

the view that tells the story is the angle they showed from behind grant, showing what grant was seeing, and that shows grant steaming in to take a chest mark, becoming aware of hudghton and turning his body to the side to ride the impact. it clearly shows his arms in position to take a chest mark which is exaclty what he would have done if hdghton hadnt thrown himself in grants way.

if grant even is called up for this, let alone found guilty of anything then you can tear up traditional defence strategy. just throw yourself in front of anyone trying to lead and earn a free for their 'reckless play' in not teleporting out of the way.

 

[flamethrower]

Grant should be suspended for life, and the Bulldogs kicked out of the competition.

There is no place for physical contact in AFL football.

 

[The Hobo]

i was under the impression that if a stretcher is called upon, the opposition player is automatically reported? or something of that sort

 

[Alkaline]

i was under the impression that if a stretcher is called upon, the opposition player is automatically reported? or something of that sort

Nar. He targeted Max with a tucked elbow was never going for the ball therefor he should go.

 

[chimphawk28]

Grant couldn't get to the marking contest before Hudghton so he jumped and smashed him up around the head with a tucked in elbow.

Not exactly. Grant didn't exactly jump up and smash him up around the head! Grant jumped for the mark, when realizing he couldn't make it he put is arm up (elbow well tucked in) to protect himself...as you would.

thats it! simple..nothing sinister. If Grant was to even get sited for that the games a bloody joke.

 

[storrma29]

Originally Posted by nananana catman
Not much difference between the Milburn Silvangi incident, and Milburn got absolutely burned for that.
Correct

"This was a TOTALLY different situation. In that case Milburn was not in the contest and never had eyes for the ball, only SOS."

Rubbish

In both cases Milburn and Grant were the intended recipients of the ball
In both cases the pass had too much air
In both cases Max and Sos showed reckless courage
In both cases Milburn and Grant timed their run and leap to take the mark,and were committed to continue on that course of action
Result. Max and Sos both leave by stretcher ,a predictable outcome running back into a pack(otherwise why did Reiwoldt get mark of the year for a chest mark?)
Milburn was crucified by a poor camera angle,idiotic carlton fans and an hysterical media
Grants Tribunal decision will be very interesting as these factors arent/wont be in play

 

[Alkaline]

Not exactly. Grant didn't exactly jump up and smash him up around the head! Grant jumped for the mark, when realizing he couldn't make it he put is arm up (elbow well tucked in) to protect himself...as you would.

thats it! simple..nothing sinister. If Grant was to even get sited for that the games a bloody joke.

this is football not netball this game is about getting hurt, he should have gone for the mark like a man, not target someone else. I hope he feels quilty that Max is in hospitel

 

[Dog Town]

Grant was going for a chest mark.Max only just got fingers to it so it wasn't as if Grant was never going to get there and he lined him up.If Grant gets suspended for that then the game is in trouble.What else could he do?Rohan Smith could be in trouble though.

 

[Dog Town]

He should have attempted to mark the ball. Instead he tucked in the elbow and attacked Hudghtons head while off the ground.

If Pickett gets six for a bump that didn't hurt Begley, what should the dog get for putting a player in hospital for a charging into his back and head?

Even if his intention was to protect himself he was off the ground and used his body in a H&S while not going for the ball. He took his eyes off the ball and targeted the undefended player, just like Pickett.

If he doesn't get weeks for his reckless act the tribunal and AFl is a joke.

Guerra got three last year for a bump on a player when he wasn't going for the ball, luckily Ling wasn't put into hospital. Unfortunately for Hudghton Grants act put him in the back of an ambulance.

Is that a ******** take?

 

[Alkaline]

Grant was going for a chest mark.Max only just got fingers to it so it wasn't as if Grant was never going to get there and he lined him up.If Grant gets suspended for that then the game is in trouble.What else could he do? Rohan Smith could be in trouble though.

How about go for that mark?

 

[jezza]

How about go for that mark?

So you think he was jumping purely to attack Max, nothing to do with the ball coming in? Where was the ball going to land if Hudghton hadn't touched it? Right on Grant's chest.

 

[Alkaline]

So you think he was jumping purely to attack Max, nothing to do with the ball coming in? Where was the ball going to land if Hudghton hadn't touched it? Right on Grant's chest.

max was in the air! grant made it look like he was going for the ball but he had max lined-up

 

[Dog Town]

How about go for that mark?

If a player from the opposition team touches the ball then you can no longer be paid a mark.