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[Meteoric Rise]

Rusey is a shit stirrer mate. No use trying to talk sense to him.

That is where you are wrong Chron. It has been very helpful for Heafy to take the time to help me to understand that the 92 million to 1 run of negative free kick results we have received over the last 8 years could not possibly result from biased umpiring. It is so good to learn I am clueless for not ruling out bias as a possible cause way before now. But it is ok, cos Daicos got a little bit of extra attention in one half of footy, that is a way bigger issue.

 

[HeathySure]

Well if you care about the right frees being given I under-estimated your reaction to the umpires if you were a Tiger supporter. You wouldn't be mass murderous so much, more genocidal I would say. At least. And given you have proven you are unhinged by saying you care that the right frees are given and in the very next sentence you stated frees are over-rated, it is a bloody good thing for the races of the world you are a Collingwood supporter with their silver service umpiring, and not a Tiger supporter watching your team get awarded less frees than 17 other teams year after year after year.

But of course this couldn't be the result of any bias, it is simply that 17 other teams happen to play a lot more carefully when they play Richmond than when they play each other. Thanks for making sense of that for us Heafy.c

Cool story bro. Glad i could help

 

[Chronz]

92 million to 1 run of negative free kick results

Pleaae provide the mathematical equation you used to come up with that number.
Tuggball is the cause of those frees against.

 

[RCAB]

Richmond is really shit

You wouldn't trade 10 Richmond players for Daicos

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Pleaae provide the mathematical equation you used to come up with that number.
Tuggball is the cause of those frees against.

Haha, how did I just know it was you that would ask that most welcome question Chronz.

Well over the last 8 years, Richmond have been(not in this sequence but that doesn't matter) 18th, 18th, 18th, 18th, 18th, 17th, 15th, and amazingly as high 11th of 18 teams in free kicks for. So this is just simply isolating the free kicks the umpires award against the opposition to a given team - in this case Richmond.

So to finish 18th in a given season a team selected at random is a 17-1 shot, or an $18.0 shot in modern betting parlance.

To finish 17th(or in the bottom 2) that would be an 8-1 chance or a $9.0 shot.

To finish in the bottom 4(which the Tigers did in recording 15th position), this gets slightly more complex, but this is a 7-2 shot or $4.50.

And to finish in the bottom 8, which the Tigers did by finishing 11th in our 4 Yorkshiremen like lucky year, that is a 5-4 chance, or $2.25.

So to figure out the chances of a team at random getting as bad a run in an 8 year period as 5 x 18th, 1 x bottom 2, 1 x bottom 4 and 1 x bottom 8, you simply multiply all the individual season odds together.

You will find it comes out at just under 92,000,000 to 1. But as your Collingwood supporting friend has ruled out any form of bias, it must just be the other 17 clubs have had their 1 in 92 million sequence of high discipline occur when and only when they have played against the Tigers over the last 8 years. Bloody amazing.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

You wouldn't trade 10 Richmond players for Daicos

We wouldn't have 10 squibs on our list to make it a like for like trade.

 

[Chronz]

Haha, how did I just know it was you that would ask that most welcome question Chronz.

Well over the last 8 years, Richmond have been(not in this sequence but that doesn't matter) 18th, 18th, 18th, 18th, 18th, 17th, 15th, and amazingly as high 11th of 18 teams in free kicks for. So this is just simply isolating the free kicks the umpires award against the opposition to a given team - in this case Richmond.

So to finish 18th in a given season a team selected at random is a 17-1 shot, or an $18.0 shot in modern betting parlance.

To finish 17th(or in the bottom 2) that would be an 8-1 chance or a $9.0 shot.

To finish in the bottom 4(which the Tigers did in recording 15th position), this gets slightly more complex, but this is a 7-2 shot or $4.50.

And to finish in the bottom 8, which the Tigers did by finishing 11th in our 4 Yorkshiremen like lucky year, that is a 5-4 chance, or $2.25.

So to figure out the chances of a team at random getting as bad a run in an 8 year period as 5 x 18th, 1 x bottom 2, 1 x bottom 4 and 1 x bottom 8, you simply multiply all the individual season odds together.

You will find it comes out at just under 92,000,000 to 1. But as your Collingwood supporting friend has ruled out any form of bias, it must just be the other 17 clubs have had their 1 in 92 million sequence of high discipline occur when and only when they have played against the Tigers over the last 8 years. Bloody amazing.

Everything checks out. Damn the CFL for these atrocities against Tuggerkind.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Everything checks out. Damn the CFL for these atrocities against Tuggerkind.

The toughest schools produce the most resilient graduates Chronz. So we just get on with it. While as we have seen, Pies supporters sook the most protected species on earth needs to be fellated more than he is by the umps.

 

[gappa]

Not only free kicks, but Tiges also over represented by penalties handed down by the NSW legal system. The CFL tentacles spread far!

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Haha, how did I just know it was you that would ask that most welcome question Chronz.

Well over the last 8 years, Richmond have been(not in this sequence but that doesn't matter) 18th, 18th, 18th, 18th, 18th, 17th, 15th, and amazingly as high 11th of 18 teams in free kicks for. So this is just simply isolating the free kicks the umpires award against the opposition to a given team - in this case Richmond.

So to finish 18th in a given season a team selected at random is a 17-1 shot, or an $18.0 shot in modern betting parlance.

To finish 17th(or in the bottom 2) that would be an 8-1 chance or a $9.0 shot.

To finish in the bottom 4(which the Tigers did in recording 15th position), this gets slightly more complex, but this is a 7-2 shot or $4.50.

And to finish in the bottom 8, which the Tigers did by finishing 11th in our 4 Yorkshiremen like lucky year, that is a 5-4 chance, or $2.25.

So to figure out the chances of a team at random getting as bad a run in an 8 year period as 5 x 18th, 1 x bottom 2, 1 x bottom 4 and 1 x bottom 8, you simply multiply all the individual season odds together.

You will find it comes out at just under 92,000,000 to 1. But as your Collingwood supporting friend has ruled out any form of bias, it must just be the other 17 clubs have had their 1 in 92 million sequence of high discipline occur when and only when they have played against the Tigers over the last 8 years. Bloody amazing.

Lol, can someone with the time and the inclination give Rusey a quick lesson on chance and probability

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Lol, can someone with the time and the inclination give Rusey a quick lesson on chance and probability

Why don't you. Make it simple. Start with the probability of a team at random NOT finishing in the top 10 for free kicks FOR in 9 consecutive years, just so we can see how likely that is....then move on to the probability of a team finishing 18th for free kicks FOR in 5 of 8 consecutive years, just so we can see how likely that is to randomly occur.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Everything checks out. Damn the CFL for these atrocities against Tuggerkind.

Roger that.

 

[HeathySure]

Haha, how did I just know it was you that would ask that most welcome question Chronz.

Well over the last 8 years, Richmond have been(not in this sequence but that doesn't matter) 18th, 18th, 18th, 18th, 18th, 17th, 15th, and amazingly as high 11th of 18 teams in free kicks for. So this is just simply isolating the free kicks the umpires award against the opposition to a given team - in this case Richmond.

So to finish 18th in a given season a team selected at random is a 17-1 shot, or an $18.0 shot in modern betting parlance.

To finish 17th(or in the bottom 2) that would be an 8-1 chance or a $9.0 shot.

To finish in the bottom 4(which the Tigers did in recording 15th position), this gets slightly more complex, but this is a 7-2 shot or $4.50.

And to finish in the bottom 8, which the Tigers did by finishing 11th in our 4 Yorkshiremen like lucky year, that is a 5-4 chance, or $2.25.

So to figure out the chances of a team at random getting as bad a run in an 8 year period as 5 x 18th, 1 x bottom 2, 1 x bottom 4 and 1 x bottom 8, you simply multiply all the individual season odds together.

You will find it comes out at just under 92,000,000 to 1. But as your Collingwood supporting friend has ruled out any form of bias, it must just be the other 17 clubs have had their 1 in 92 million sequence of high discipline occur when and only when they have played against the Tigers over the last 8 years. Bloody amazing.

or maybe they just gave away more frees than anyone else because of they way they play?
Like this dumb thread your calculations are very flawed

 

[Meteoric Rise]

or maybe they just gave away more frees than anyone else because of they way they play?
Like this dumb thread your calculations are very flawed

But we are not discussing how many free kicks Richmond gave away due the the "way they play." I was referring solely to the amount of free kicks Richmond receive due to the "way the opposition plays." Why would one team consistently be infringed less often over such an extended period(8 years) such that they finish last(or 18th) for free kicks FOR more often than the other 17 teams put together?

 

[HeathySure]

But we are not discussing how many free kicks Richmond gave away due the the "way they play." I was referring solely to the amount of free kicks Richmond receive due to the "way the opposition plays." Why would one team consistently be infringed less often over such an extended period(8 years) such that they finish last(or 18th) for free kicks FOR more often than the other 17 teams put together?

Loser clubs who cant play give away more free kicks because they have terrible players. There is your answer

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Loser clubs who cant play give away more free kicks because they have terrible players. There is your answer

But we are not discussing the free kicks Richmond gives away, and Richmond were a top 4 club and Premiers in several of those years.

 

[HeathySure]

But we are not discussing the free kicks Richmond gives away, and Richmond were a top 4 club and Premiers in several of those years.

You had a very distinct game style totally different to all the other clubs. Maybe that was the reason?

 

[JoseMourinho]

yeha daicos is rubbish - has to get an extra 10m on his 50m so he isn't exposed for being unable to kick very far.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

You had a very distinct game style totally different to all the other clubs. Maybe that was the reason?

Why would our game style effect the free kicks received total? All clubs are essentially out there trying to do the same things.

But even so, Richmond's game style has since changed and is now not so distinctive....

Richmond average free kicks received by year:

2025 18th
2024 18th
2023 18th
2022 17th(18th for differential)
2021 18th

How do you think you would handle the Magpies copping that umpiring?

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Why don't you. Make it simple. Start with the probability of a team at random NOT finishing in the top 10 for free kicks FOR in 9 consecutive years, just so we can see how likely that is....then move on to the probability of a team finishing 18th for free kicks FOR in 5 of 8 consecutive years, just so we can see how likely that is to randomly occur.

Honestly, don't have the time for that malarkey. It seems very peculiar to apply the lens of probability to free kicks, as if they are somehow random events like dice rolls.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Honestly, don't have the time for that malarkey. It seems very peculiar to apply the lens of probability to free kicks, as if they are somehow random events like dice rolls.

The run Richmond has had in terms of free kicks received as detailed in posts above looks extremely(and I mean extremely extremely) improbable though, or am I imagining that?

Team finishes:

2025 18th
2024 18th
2023 18th
2022 17th(18th for differential)
2021 18th

for free kicks received. Oh yeah, happens all the time, nothing odd about that.

 

[Chronz]

The run Richmond has had in terms of free kicks received as detailed in posts above looks extremely(and I mean extremely extremely) improbable though, or am I imagining that?

Team finishes:

2025 18th
2024 18th
2023 18th
2022 17th(18th for differential)
2021 18th

for free kicks received. Oh yeah, happens all the time, nothing odd about that.

Hey Rusey, our posts in the Daicos fred were moved to the Geelong/Richmond shitfight fred. Now you're caught up in one of your perpetual shitfights with Meowy & Co. Enjoy.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Hey Rusey, our posts in the Daicos fred were moved to the Geelong/Richmond shitfight fred. Now you're caught up in one of your perpetual shitfights with Meowy & Co. Enjoy.

It took me ages this time to achieve getting banned from the boring Daicos thread, was a real drag.

Please don't tell me you are still participating in that thread. Nobody goes there any more, it is way too crowded.

 

[frggr]

oh yes lets look at the free kick ladder shall we. I dont whine about frees ever in close games. Didnt whine when the umps got the Cats over the line against us 3 weeks ago either

Got Geelong over the line?! Ahahahahaha right-o

 

[frggr]

The run Richmond has had in terms of free kicks received as detailed in posts above looks extremely(and I mean extremely extremely) improbable though, or am I imagining that?

Team finishes:

2025 18th
2024 18th
2023 18th
2022 17th(18th for differential)
2021 18th

for free kicks received. Oh yeah, happens all the time, nothing odd about that.

I think a few posters are missing the "free kicks received" part of your post