Maxwell

[Coin_Toss]

What's his role in the side? He is either a backman or a forward. As a forward, however, he doesn't convert, and that comes astray when forwards around him aren't coverting. He can provide a contest, but as a forward he hasn't got much going for him. As a backman, he can hold his own and help the team by doing the team things, but on a rare day (like today) he doesn't have a match up and then we have no choice other than to play him in the forward-line.

IMO, Maxwell was OK today.

 

[Invigoration]

Commentators mentioned he was played as a Defensive Forward.

I was just curious, who was he meant to be actually keeping quiet/playing defensive on?

 

[Jabso]

I agree with everything here.
Bulldogs are a rare team where he wouldn't have a matchup in the backline. He was good in the first half at winning the contested ball for us but he gets very few chances so needs to convert them.

 

[Lestat]

Hate to say it, but Maxwell is so overrated on this board.

Good honest player...nothing more. Doesn't nearly do enough when he goes foward (he's not a forward quite frankly), and though yes he's courageous down back and does some good things, players like O'brian have gone past him.

Talk of him being next captain is nothing short of ludicrous.

 

[PieLebo87]

I said it after his second goal.

Move Maxwell onto Cooney!

Im sick of seeing this to our players, Clokes career went down the sh!tter because of MMs belief he can turn him into a forward.

Maxwell has been useless last two weeks in a row, can you stop thinking your f**king smart and just play him in his God damn position as a damn backman!?

 

[Danny_CFC]

I said it after his second goal.

Move Maxwell onto Cooney!

Im sick of seeing this to our players, Clokes career went down the sh!tter because of MMs belief he can turn him into a forward.

Maxwell has been useless last two weeks in a row, can you stop thinking your f**king smart and just play him in his God damn position as a damn backman!?

amen to ****ing that.

 

[Footy guru]

I agree couldn't believe it when Maxwell went forward and Cooney was running rings around Shaw. Need his athleticism in the back half especially how the shaws were down. He is not a forward and he cant convert its bad enough Rocca and Cloke miss too many let alone another one. The player just ran themselves into the ground with all that hard work in first half couldnt keep it going. But will learn from it. Go pies! Bring on the Lions.

 

[King Woodie]

Le Stat - your comments about Maxwell being overrated on this board is completely correct. In fact, almost all of our players are overrated on this board.

But agree with Maxwell. Sometimes we need to drop these guys when there is no matchup. We can't keep playing with so many key tall (and medium tall) defenders when a team like the bulldogs have one main key forward and run us off our feet through the middle.

It doesn't make sense.

 

[MarkT]

We have to trade well to build a list that will premierships. I reckon we have Maxwell covered with other players. I would consider trading him in the right deal. It isn’t that I don’t think he can play bit more that he doesn’t bring anything unique to the list that we don’t have already covered. If he was a bit taller he be a good KP back prospect but he isn’t. As a forward he has never really fired. I just hope MM doesn’t go down the Schauble/Michael path and try and make him a forward.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I am all for trying our talls at both ends. In the past we have suffered by not having players who can be swung around as the game unfolds. Not sure that Maxwell will make it as one, but theres no harm in giving these kids a bit of opportunity to show some flexibility.

Re trading him, sadly I think Mark may be right. It seems we are building up a strong list, so some of our third and fourth year players may become victims of that. I'd like to keep Maxwell but would not be surprised to see him offered for trade, as (a) we can cover him with and (b) he'll have trade value. We have to be careful though - Clement Wakes and Presti are not getting any younger, while Anthony Reid and Brown are unproven.

 

[MarkT]

I agree Timmy. You never know until you try and I’d sure as hell prefer to try it in the H&A than be forced into unknown territory in a final.

 

[Frederlick]

I said it after his second goal.

Move Maxwell onto Cooney!

Im sick of seeing this to our players, Clokes career went down the sh!tter because of MMs belief he can turn him into a forward.

Maxwell has been useless last two weeks in a row, can you stop thinking your f**king smart and just play him in his God damn position as a damn backman!?

Well said. MM said it again last week in an interview about trying to develop players who can play multiple positions. I'm a definite fan of MM, but some players just aren't that flexible in adapting to different positions. Leon Davis will never be a mid fielder either and Maxwell went missing with him in the 2nd half yesterday. 10 possessions between them in the 2nd half, I thought we were lucky to only lose by 33 points.

 

[Coin_Toss]

We have to trade well to build a list that will premierships. I reckon we have Maxwell covered with other players. I would consider trading him in the right deal. It isn’t that I don’t think he can play bit more that he doesn’t bring anything unique to the list that we don’t have already covered. If he was a bit taller he be a good KP back prospect but he isn’t. As a forward he has never really fired. I just hope MM doesn’t go down the Schauble/Michael path and try and make him a forward.

I don't mind Maxwell, he's a good mark, but his kicking has always let him down IMO. If we trade him, we'd only get a similar player in return, and he may need be team-orientated (i.e. one percenters, spoils, etc) because Maxwell does all the team things. Aside from that he hasn't got any outstanding attributes.

 

[Jabso]

We wouldn't get anything for Maxwell in a trade. Perhaps if we were chasing a big name player he could be used in part of a package to nab him, but he hasn't got a huge price on his head so we can't exactly shop him around. If he was a genuine key position player he'd be great trade bait. But his much more valuable to our club, than anything we'd get for him.

 

[eddiesmith]

Harry has taken his spot in the backline and with Clement to come back, Wakes always around, its hard to see Maxwell ever getting back into the backline unless we get injuries, not a forwards ********, cant mark, cant kick, perhaps Mick should just drop him instead of playing him out of position, but that will never happen

For those who say put Maxwell back where he belongs, in which spot? Who gets dropped for him?

 

[Coin_Toss]

For those who say put Maxwell back where he belongs, in which spot? Who gets dropped for him?

He's in the best 22, isn't he?

B: Maxwell, Prestigiacomo, O'Brien
HB: H. Shaw, Clement, R. Shaw

There's nothing wrong with that. Maxwell and O'Brien can play tall and small.

 

[eddiesmith]

He's in the best 22, isn't he?

B: Maxwell, Prestigiacomo, O'Brien
HB: H. Shaw, Clement, R. Shaw

There's nothing wrong with that. Maxwell and O'Brien can play tall and small.

I would play Cox ahead of him based on what I saw before his suspension and if the opposition had another tall then Wakelin should be in such as against the Hawks, Saints, Bombers

The problem is he is to inflexible, the rest of that backline could play well anywhere on the ground

Is he in the best 22? Possibly, but he isnt in our best backline so on balance maybe we should leave him out some weeks

 

[AsianWithAFro]

Do u think if maxwell still ends playing like this he could be traded next year or maybe this year. His useless up forward. I think a player like Toovey could do better than Maxwell up forward. Maxwell is a back and playing as back or MM will jeopardise his career as a footballer altogether e.g C1

 

[Therussian]

get a grip gents, Maxwell is a future leader of the club.

he's not a forward, but he is easily in our best 18

 

[Torpy]

Harry has taken his spot in the backline and with Clement to come back, Wakes always around, its hard to see Maxwell ever getting back into the backline unless we get injuries, not a forwards ********, cant mark, cant kick, perhaps Mick should just drop him instead of playing him out of position, but that will never happen

For those who say put Maxwell back where he belongs, in which spot? Who gets dropped for him?

How about putting him in a negating role on a dangerous forward, instead of say, Rhyce Shaw on Adam Cooney? Like others have mentioned already, he was slaughtered yesterday, Maxwell would be a much better negater than Rhyce. Cooney is too good to run off, unlike lesser players. It would have been a good matchup for Maxwell, but Mick had other ideas...

 

[eddiesmith]

You reckon Maxwell could have stopped Cooney? Hahahaha, oh that would have been funny to watch

But I was disappointed he played forward, last year he gave so many highlights when he chucked a tantrum for each of the 5-6 goals kicked on him in our win against the Dogs

 

[Presti_is_god]

Max has tagged opposition backman a few times. He did it on Chad Cornes and was probably a big part of stopping the run of the Dogs in the 1st half last week.

 

[Torpy]

You reckon Maxwell could have stopped Cooney? Hahahaha, oh that would have been funny to watch

But I was disappointed he played forward, last year he gave so many highlights when he chucked a tantrum for each of the 5-6 goals kicked on him in our win against the Dogs

Laugh all you want. At the very least, he would have been a better option than Rhyce defensively, Rhyce was undersized and to make things worse he was apparently crook on the day.

 

[eddiesmith]

Max has tagged opposition backman a few times. He did it on Chad Cornes and was probably a big part of stopping the run of the Dogs in the 1st half last week.

So where was he in the 2nd half? The Dogs killed us off half back and he failed to do any damage the other way, yet some seem to think he played a good game