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Mega Training Day 23/08/2011

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Hi all,

Well today was an absolute wonderful day for myself! I have a mate that works for the AFL in American & was here with the American ladies & men afl team.

Well the American team got to tour the westpac centre & speak to the players. I had a chat with Derek Hine, Nick Hullet, nathan Brown, Didak, Thomas, Bucks, Shae (who is a gun bloke & going out with him on sat night!), pendles & many others.

We toured the whole centre & got to see what it is like to live like a footballer. Gee they have it all & they are all very lucky to be in that posotion. It really was a hightlight & even got to kick the balls with some players..

I will upload photos shortly!


Anyway below is the report from training:

  • I spoke to Nick Hullet about some injured players & he mentioned that, Krakourer, davis, johnson were all rested & will play this week
  • Heath Shaw is in the best condition of his life, he is ripped & even has a tan! He really looks so differently physically & looks so fit!
  • Ben Reid I spoke to & he trained and is 100% fit!
  • Goldsack trained & his ankle is ok! He will play no doubt.
  • Maccaffer trained fully & looked ok
  • Dawes Trained fully & will play this week according to the sources. However, watching him train, he does look out of touch & lacking confidence. They will play him this week, so that he can try & get some form & fitness into him.
  • Wellingham trained & didnt seem hammpered. Rumour has it he may miss one more week & play against Geelong.
So overall they said they are planning to field the best possible team from now on & its full steam ahead for the boys.

Only Maxwell is in doubt this year, but the rest are fit & training, just up to Mick to see if he wants to bring them all in.

After speaking to relevant sources, I would say that, Johnson, Davis, Krackourer, Dawes & possibly wellingham will all be in this week.

Shaw will play first week of finals no doubt.

Questions fire away!!!
 
Witts was doing Gym in the westpac centre & he huge unit! Derek said that Witts would of gone top 10 in this years draft no doubt. He obviusly wouldnt discuss drafting & trading & I wouldnt of been so rude to try and ask. But I asked him who he thought was coming along in the vfl & he said Seedsman, Bolton, J thomas & witts all had bright futures!

Top bloke & very smart
 
Witts was doing Gym in the westpac centre & he huge unit! Derek said that Witts would of gone top 10 in this years draft no doubt. He obviusly wouldnt discuss drafting & trading & I wouldnt of been so rude to try and ask. But I asked him who he thought was coming along in the vfl & he said Seedsman, Bolton, J thomas & witts all had bright futures!

Top bloke & very smart

Thanks for Answering the Question Mate. Looking Forward to the Pictures.

Hine is Massive Fan of Witts isn't he saying he would be a Top 10 Pick
 

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A few Q's for you mate

1. Did Shaw train with the main group? How were his skills?
2. Were Dawes & Wellingham training with the main group?
3. Do you think Shae will be on our list next year?

muchas gracias :thumbsu:
 
A few Q's for you mate

1. Did Shaw train with the main group? How were his skills?
2. Were Dawes & Wellingham training with the main group?
3. Do you think Shae will be on our list next year?

muchas gracias :thumbsu:

Hey Mate.

Yes Shaw trained with the main group & he was running on top of the ground. His skills were fantastic & as mentioned looks so dam fit! I spoke to Nick Hullet & he said it is the first time ever that Shaw actually had a 6 pack & was ripped. His skin folds are the lowest ever & he will be flying!

Yes Dawes & Wellingham both trained with the main group & looked good. As mentioned Dawes was doing one on one work against Keefe and really looked to have no confidence. Just got out positioned, so game time for Dawes will be essential in th enext 2 weeks.

Shae hasnt signed up yet & his agent hasnt got an offer as of now. HE is a little frustrated & wants to stay, but he just has to wait and see. He will go into the draft if he isnt resigned.
 
Shae hasnt signed up yet & his agent hasnt got an offer as of now. HE is a little frustrated & wants to stay, but he just has to wait and see. He will go into the draft if he isnt resigned.

I think this is the Most Likely to Happen
 
Have to say, for a veteran professional athlete that's incredibly disappointing and goes a way to explaining his inconsistency on the field I reckon.

lolwut
He's been one of our most consistent players since drink-driving fiasco.
 

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Good, better, best.

he has the ability to be top 10 in the AFL, thats where he should be

Oh I understand what Spicey and you are implying, I'm too of a belief he isn't far off from elite but to call him inconsistent is a folly IMO.
The gap between Heater's best and worst isn't all that big.
 
Oh I understand what Spicey and you are implying, I'm too of a belief he isn't far off from elite but to call him inconsistent is a folly IMO.
The gap between Heater's best and worst isn't all that big.

Statistically, he's consistently our most inconsistent player ;)
 
Statistically, he's consistently our most inconsistent player ;)

Stats aren't really a good way to judge a guy who is
a) sometimes a high possession rebounder
b) sometimes given a lock-down job
 
Oh I understand what Spicey and you are implying, I'm too of a belief he isn't far off from elite but to call him inconsistent is a folly IMO.
The gap between Heater's best and worst isn't all that big.

You could have said its a body shape thing with Heath, a la Leroy, and I would have believed it, but evidently Heath had a way to go.

Why he didn't come back from 1st Arizona so ripped I'm not sure. Really, there's probably no reason that most shouldn't look Ballesque if they were flogged in similar fashion.

p.s. is Anthony Rocca our nasty assistant to Butters? Get medieval on their bums Roccamy.
 

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Statistically, he's consistently our most inconsistent player ;)

That would still make him fairly consistent :p

In 2011 he averages almost 22 touches a game, not too shabby for a half back flanker.
 
You could have said its a body shape thing with Heath, a la Leroy, and I would have believed it, but evidently Heath had a way to go.

Why he didn't come back from 1st Arizona so ripped I'm not sure. Really, there's probably no reason that most shouldn't look Ballesque if they were flogged in similar fashion.

I'm all for our players being in top shape but there isn't enough evidence to suggest that would make a significant improvement for a player like Heath.
He ain't Chris Egan ffs ;)
And I'm definitely no sports scientist but aren't a lot of players prefer to start the season with a slight excess baggage so they have something to burn during the year and get to top condition at the right time of the year?
 
Stats aren't really a good way to judge a guy who is
a) sometimes a high possession rebounder
b) sometimes given a lock-down job

b) is very rare these days, and it doesn't necessarily stop a).

In any case, the stat thing was just a bit of back-up. Surely most people would agree that out of our best players, he's the most inconsistent?

In 2011 he averages almost 22 touches a game, not too shabby for a half back flanker.

An average tells you nothing about consistency. For example, Judd's averages this season are great, but he's still been pretty inconsistent.

After Round 24, I'll put up a plot of performance/consistency as I did a couple of years ago.
 
I'm all for our players being in top shape but there isn't enough evidence to suggest that would make a significant improvement for a player like Heath.
He ain't Chris Egan ffs ;)
And I'm definitely no sports scientist but aren't a lot of players prefer to start the season with a slight excess baggage so they have something to burn during the year and get to top condition at the right time of the year?
Well PB whatever - at least he's in top nick now and that's all that really counts eh?
 
He's a great player, but there's no denying that an extra skin fold or two less should help his game.
 

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