Mick Malthouse

[Blackas87]

Article here:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...dump-dean-bailey/story-fn8libnl-1226064771894

Interesting to note, his top assitants remain out of contract at years end.

I would love the Dees to have a fund raiser to bring them all over, I would reach in to my pocket to help the FD.

At the same time, the club could afford it now wih The Bentleigh Club acquisition and our previous debt demolition efforts. If we could convert our current list in to a premiership winning side on this raise then it would easily pay for itself.

Thoughts? Would you support a FD fundraiser (like the fighting Tigers fund) or would you like the club to take on some debt for a mind like Malthouse?

If we get Maulthouse he will bring a lot of attention to our club, this would bring in a few more sponsors, also similar to Ben Cousins going to Richmond, our membership would have a decent jump, I think maulthouse would bring in the money himself, he is worth it.

 

[syl]

If we get Maulthouse he will bring a lot of attention to our club, this would bring in a few more sponsors, also similar to Ben Cousins going to Richmond, our membership would have a decent jump, I think maulthouse would bring in the money himself, he is worth it.

Indeed. And it's not like his mob would do a worse job.

Regardless, let's see what our crew can pull out this year (fingers need to come out first!)

 

[BETON5]

Indeed. And it's not like his mob would do a worse job.

Regardless, let's see what our crew can pull out this year (fingers need to come out first!)

The only thing stopping Mick Malthouse OR Paul Roos coaching the Greatest club in this universe is IF WE WIN 10.5 GAMES or plus.That is the only thing,and going on form the answer is maybe 8 wins ish.....

There for the MFC would have no hesitation in paying Cllingwood out for the termination of MM contract and Neeld will follow..
Mick knows he doesnt want to be at the most Hated club in the afl...

 

[Aish]

Mick Malthouse is facing the sack after taking his team to the premiership -- it's an absurd situation. If given the right circumstances, he will coach another club and his aim will be to smash Collingwood and rub Eddie's face in it. Logic would say that team will be Carlton as they're the closest challenger at the moment.

 

[HFF]

That said, i personally think Roos is slightly better at developing young kids than Mick.

Incorrect.

Roos is very good at recycling (something Mick ain't too shabby in either) but Mick has it all over Roos in youth development and the evidence is there to back it up.

IMO, you should stick with Bailey and give him the time and faith for his work to mature. There's still plenty of holes for the club to fill and development to see out. Bringing in a Malthouse would increase sponsorships and the like but high and perhaps unachievable expectations will follow which puts alot more pressure on the club and its situation, particularly if it is a failure.

Also, I cannot see how you could possibly afford Malthouse + his assistants + having to pay out his existing contract with Collingwood. Would cost millions upon millions. Not even Collingwood would go down such a path if the shoe were on the other foot.

Injuries and suspensions have not helped Bailey and Mebourne's cause either, particularly when depth in such a young team is currently not there.

 

[Headless]

Incorrect.

Stopped reading here. How can jinny1 stating "i personally think Roos is slightly better at developing young kids than Mick" be incorrect?

 

[AFL is Number One]

Pointless thread.

Mickey Malthouse is staying at the Pies. He has said so himself.

Why are we discussing him coming to Dees??? He is going nowhere . End Of Story.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Incorrect.

Roos is very good at recycling (something Mick ain't too shabby in either) but Mick has it all over Roos in youth development and the evidence is there to back it up.

IMO, you should stick with Bailey and give him the time and faith for his work to mature. There's still plenty of holes for the club to fill and development to see out. Bringing in a Malthouse would increase sponsorships and the like but high and perhaps unachievable expectations will follow which puts alot more pressure on the club and its situation, particularly if it is a failure.

Also, I cannot see how you could possibly afford Malthouse + his assistants + having to pay out his existing contract with Collingwood. Would cost millions upon millions. Not even Collingwood would go down such a path if the shoe were on the other foot.

Injuries and suspensions have not helped Bailey and Mebourne's cause either, particularly when depth in such a young team is currently not there.

All very good points, I agree.

 

[MAXIMUM GRUNDAGE]

KissStephanie- please for the love of God change your avatar- it is burning my eyes and I fear I will turn to stone should my eyes be subjected to it any longer.

LOL!
6cheapricks

 

[Demon 16]

KissStephanie- please for the love of God change your avatar- it is burning my eyes and I fear I will turn to stone should my eyes be subjected to it any longer.

Harsh - I think she's quite a good looking young lady.

As per the article posted by Syl, the bigger problem would be getting the people Mick wants to bring with him. Collingwood would put up some huge hurdles on that front.

 

[Ando727]

Incorrect.

Roos is very good at recycling (something Mick ain't too shabby in either) but Mick has it all over Roos in youth development and the evidence is there to back it up.

IMO, you should stick with Bailey and give him the time and faith for his work to mature. There's still plenty of holes for the club to fill and development to see out. Bringing in a Malthouse would increase sponsorships and the like but high and perhaps unachievable expectations will follow which puts alot more pressure on the club and its situation, particularly if it is a failure.

Also, I cannot see how you could possibly afford Malthouse + his assistants + having to pay out his existing contract with Collingwood. Would cost millions upon millions. Not even Collingwood would go down such a path if the shoe were on the other foot.

Injuries and suspensions have not helped Bailey and Mebourne's cause either, particularly when depth in such a young team is currently not there.

All valid points except the bolded part. We wouldn't have to pay out Mick's contract. If Mick feels the role offered to him at Collingwood is not suitable for him, he can void the contract. That is the reason he would leave. If he's happy with his new role, he won't leave. It's solves itself. The expense of Malthouse and his team is an issue, but I don't think we should let it stop us. We need to spend money to make money. We've been using substandard coaches for a long time and it doesn't pay off. I think the increase in sponsorship by having a Roos or Malthouse would actually pay for their increased cost. You can't afford to skimp on the thing that determines your success.

 

[Mightydees]

All valid points except the bolded part. We wouldn't have to pay out Mick's contract. If Mick feels the role offered to him at Collingwood is not suitable for him, he can void the contract. That is the reason he would leave. If he's happy with his new role, he won't leave. It's solves itself. The expense of Malthouse and his team is an issue, but I don't think we should let it stop us. We need to spend money to make money. We've been using substandard coaches for a long time and it doesn't pay off. I think the increase in sponsorship by having a Roos or Malthouse would actually pay for their increased cost. You can't afford to skimp on the thing that determines your success.

Ando unless there is a specific provision in Mick's contract that allows him to terminate if he is not happy with the role or some other mechanism to terminate without cause then Mick would be liable for damages if he unlawfully terminated the contract and Collingwood pursued him for damages. Whilst this would not mean that Mick (and therefore the Dees) would be liable to "pay his contract out" the Pies would be entitled to damages for breach of contract if Mick unlawfully terminates his contract. This would be damages that naturally flow from Mick's breach of contract. Do you have specific knowledge as to the terms of Mick's contract?

 

[captain peanut]

Ando unless there is a specific provision in Mick's contract that allows him to terminate if he is not happy with the role or some other mechanism to terminate without cause then Mick would be liable for damages if he unlawfully terminated the contract and Collingwood pursued him for damages. Whilst this would not mean that Mick (and therefore the Dees) would be liable to "pay his contract out" the Pies would be entitled to damages for breach of contract if Mick unlawfully terminates his contract. This would be damages that naturally flow from Mick's breach of contract. Do you have specific knowledge as to the terms of Mick's contract?

if mick genuinely decides he wants to leave collingwood and have one more crack at a senior coaching gig elsewhere, i doubt they will stand in his way. he has given the best part of 12 years of exceptional service to the pies - from the basket case they were on and off the field at the end of 99 he, along with eddie, has overseen the revamping of the club. his contribution to the club is recognised, and i doubt the club would be so petty as to pursue him for breach of contract if he wants to try his hand elsewhere. just my opinion

and just quietly, mick is just what melb need. it is a talented list, no doubt. it just needs someone to harness the talent and he would be the perfect man. and i'll give you the tip - there'll be no "bruise free footy" if he takes the reins. as an outsider looking, it seems melb are lacking the hard edge someone like malthouse would bring

 

[MAXIMUM GRUNDAGE]

Harsh - I think she's quite a good looking young lady.

 

[Ando727]

Ando unless there is a specific provision in Mick's contract that allows him to terminate if he is not happy with the role or some other mechanism to terminate without cause then Mick would be liable for damages if he unlawfully terminated the contract and Collingwood pursued him for damages. Whilst this would not mean that Mick (and therefore the Dees) would be liable to "pay his contract out" the Pies would be entitled to damages for breach of contract if Mick unlawfully terminates his contract. This would be damages that naturally flow from Mick's breach of contract. Do you have specific knowledge as to the terms of Mick's contract?

I've heard it discussed at various times in interviews with Mick and I think it was even mentioned at the original press conference (though I'm not entirely sure of that), that the 3 year director of coaching agreement was contingent on it being a satisfactory role to Mick. I took that to mean that it must be written into the agreement. If it isn't, then Mick shouldn't be saying such things. I think even Eddie has made the same allusions, although he tries to avoid talking about it much because he wants everyone to think it's the most harmonious arrangement ever to be brokered - which it clearly isn't. I think Mick would rather be a full-time Grandparent than continue on at the Pies with Buckley in the top job.

 

[Demon 16]

They are all a trap YDKJ - I can tell you that with certainty.

 

[Demonic_Inferno]

Why would you get the ball rolling at a prospective future club by stating that one of your potential future players is a cheat?

Hahaha.

 

[THE STING2]

Why would you get the ball rolling at a prospective future club by stating that one of your potential future players is a cheat?

Hahaha.

To get one of many squibs off our list.

 

[Jeebs]

if mick genuinely decides he wants to leave collingwood and have one more crack at a senior coaching gig elsewhere, i doubt they will stand in his way [...] and i doubt the club would be so petty as to pursue him for breach of contract if he wants to try his hand elsewhere. just my opinion

Agreed. Although a number of clubs have complained appropriately about the assistant coach merry-go-round, having recently (at the time) signed a new contract with the MFC, Wellman stuck two fingers up and left without issue.

 

[Demon 86]

Agreed. Although a number of clubs have complained appropriately about the assistant coach merry-go-round, having recently (at the time) signed a new contract with the MFC, Wellman stuck two fingers up and left without issue.

Think you're a bit over the top there re 'stuck two fingers up'- Wellman got offered a lot more money to return to his home club and work with a good friend of his- who wouldn't say yes?

Adelaide were equally as disapointed when Viney returned to the Dees for similar reasons.