midfield 09

[Memories]

No. The agenda you have is to push who YOU want out of the team, and it doesn't matter if they win the brownlow or poll well in any top voting things, you want them out and thats it. Pathetic, just absolutely pathetic.

I have a vision of what it takes to be a premiership team. Unlike you I have been consistently right over the journey about numerous things, not just things relating to Freo. I have football vision. Either way it is only my opinion, and even though I base it on logical, rational and factual things, doesn't mean you can't think it's stupid. You wonder why you can't get through to people like me it's because you have little substance in your arguments, I am far from stubborn. Either way if reading my posts just makes a vein pop in your head you should do something about it before it turns into something worse.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Considering Hayden is injured, Tank tank tank tank, tank tank tank, tank tank, tank tank tank tank.

Fixed.

 

[Bradesmaen]

I have a vision of what it takes to be a premiership team. Unlike you I have been consistently right over the journey about numerous things, not just things relating to Freo. I have football vision. Either way it is only my opinion, and even though I base it on logical, rational and factual things, doesn't mean you can't think it's stupid. You wonder why you can't get through to people like me it's because you have little substance in your arguments, I am far from stubborn. Either way if reading my posts just makes a vein pop in your head you should do something about it before it turns into something worse.

So what have you been right about.. Schammer is lousy - wrong. Hasleby is fat - wrong. Sandilands is useless - wrong. Wow, great start there. Pick yourself up off the floor before you get embarrassed more today. Its not looking good for you so far

 

[Ripper]

Considering Hayden is injured, it's going to be hard for us to win any from here on out. I watched the Melbourne game, looks like they will probably win a few more this year.

Might be a battle between us and West Coast.

Way to change the subject. How can you put rich where you did when he has done nothing- zip - nada to date.

Very silly.

I agree with you last paragraph though , the MRP & the umpiring dept may be giving us a huge free kick for 2009.

 

[Memories]

Way to change the subject. How can you put rich where you did when he has done nothing- zip - nada to date.

Very silly.

I agree with you last paragraph though , the MRP & the umpiring dept may be giving us a huge free kick for 2009.

Oh, sorry for not answering what you wanted, wasn't directly stated. I thought you meant we had no chance of getting him.

I'll agree we don't know how he will go, it's just my gut feeling. Either way unlike schammer he's being touted to go top 3 in the draft, so most place him ahead of schammer at his age.

 

[hoss]

The only "agenda" I have is to turn Fremantle into a premiership winning team. I have no player loyalty like you, and I do not accept mediocre players who show no improvement, or worse, go backwards.

It says something you are talking about Schammers 06 form when most of our team was playing great. He wasn't exactly a stand out during that period.

Haselby > Palmer > Rich > Cousins > Headland > Crowley > Ibbo --> DAYLIGHT --> Schammer.

I hope schammer can turn it around but he hasn't improved his shocking disposal yet, what makes you think he can in the future? What makes you think he can improve his leg speed?

Your bias AGAINST Schammer seems to be greater than anyone elses FOR Schammer, so maybe it's you with the agenda.

I only say this because of todays game..... he wasn't bad at all. Any objective observer could clearly SEE that. I don't know what you were watching (if you were at Subi at all). He had stuff-ups, just like everyone else on the team. But to be as derogatory as you has been is pretty hard to understand.

 

[Memories]

Your bias AGAINST Schammer seems to be greater than anyone elses FOR Schammer, so maybe it's you with the agenda.

I only say this because of todays game..... he wasn't bad at all. Any objective observer could clearly SEE that. I don't know what you were watching (if you were at Subi at all). He had stuff-ups, just like everyone else on the team. But to be as derogatory as you has been is pretty hard to understand.

I never said his game today was the worst I had seen of him, or that he was our worst player, far from it. However he has consistent large clangers in nearly every game he plays. Today for instance he cost us a goal. It's just his consistent inability to dispose of the ball that I am going on, not any specific game or two where he has excelled. Because he has in periods, but yeah.

 

[hoss]

Well my opinion is that anyone who kicked a behind today cost us a goal.

Had we kicked straight early on first quarter, different result.

Had we the Wiz or McPharlin playing, different result.

Can never blame just one incident in the game. How many occasions were there when Ess players got free out on their own, with way too much space ... that would've cost us goals too.

 

[Memories]

Well my opinion is that anyone who kicked a behind today cost us a goal.

Had we kicked straight early on first quarter, different result.

Had we the Wiz or McPharlin playing, different result.

Can never blame just one incident in the game. How many occasions were there when Ess players got free out on their own, with way too much space ... that would've cost us goals too.

I'm not saying Schammer only had clangers in todays game though. It's a consistent theme with him and players like Peake. Many players cost us the game today, schammer was one of them. But schammer also turns the ball over a lot, would be up there with our hishest clanger/game count.

 

[hoss]

I'm not saying Schammer only had clangers in todays game though. It's a consistent theme with him and players like Peake. Many players cost us the game today, schammer was one of them. But schammer also turns the ball over a lot, would be up there with our hishest clanger/game count.

I know he's turned it over a lot in the past, but if he had an improved game today (I think he's been better the last month or so) why stick the boots in?

You're as good as your last game. I think we should be positive if players like him, Josh etc appear to be improving.

 

[Ripper]

I know he's turned it over a lot in the past, but if he had an improved game today (I think he's been better the last month or so) why stick the boots in?

You're as good as your last game. I think we should be positive if players like him, Josh etc appear to be improving.

Nail . Hammer head

 

[Shadow Man]

I know he's turned it over a lot in the past, but if he had an improved game today (I think he's been better the last month or so) why stick the boots in?

You're as good as your last game. I think we should be positive if players like him, Josh etc appear to be improving.

Be careful hoss, he has a vision. He's like the Yoda of football commentary.

 

[chook2734]

Be careful hoss, he has a vision. He's like the Yoda of football commentary.

I thought it sounded more like a John Worsfold inspired rant. I was waiting for him to tell us that we don't have the character to support a Premiership team because we've never followed one

 

[E Shed]

Schammer won me over in the subi final in 06, expected him to have a big year this year but he almost lost me again with his sloppy footy which culminated in him being dropped. He got the reprieve and has played some good footy since, BUT he still goes to ground way too much for someone of his size. There was a crucial example of it in the 3'rd quarter where Lovett in our forward 50 miscued a kick which only went a few metres toward Schammer. All he had to do was keep his feet and he would have had a shot on goal or at least been able to put it deep inside 50. He was free clear and he just fell over. Essendon got the ball back, took it down the other end and scored one of those 3 late goals. It doesn't look that bad on TV but at the game right in front of me we all just groaned as it was so obviously a Schammerism, falling over at a critical moment. The turnover kick to Thornton wasn't so bad but it still hurt really badly at a critical time. Then of course 10 minutes later he put it all on the line with the big hit on McPhee. The contrast is what it's all about with Schamm. He's never going to play slick error free footy but he will put his body on the line every time and he doesn't shirk it. Jury is still out for me as to whether he will ever be better than servicable.

 

[Bradesmaen]

To be fair to Schammer, I think every single player slipped over at some point today, the turf at Subi looked dodgy as.

 

[Jetau]

To be fair to Schammer, I think every single player slipped over at some point today, the turf at Subi looked dodgy as.

That's a good point, actually. I noticed that at the ground. It doesn't excuse Schammer from that critical turnover in the last quarter though. He's miles ahead of Peake, however.

 

[chook2734]

That's a good point, actually. I noticed that at the ground. It doesn't excuse Schammer from that critical turnover in the last quarter though. He's miles ahead of Peake, however.

I'm not sure we want to start measuring our players value against Brett Peake.

 

[Cameron_K]

Peake needs to play 100 games at the club as much as that hurts me to say. The blood lines for his future children are just too good to pass up.

 

[chook2734]

Peake needs to play 100 games at the club as much as that hurts me to say. The blood lines for his future children are just too good to pass up.

Do you think maybe it's skipped a generation in Peakey's case?

 

[rgauci]

So everyone is surprised that our midfield struggled when Headland and Hasleby were missing.

When Crowley went down after half time and there was only 1 left on the bench for half a game.

I'm pretty sure fatigue would of set in. A lot of missed kicks occur while players are fatigued.

 

[Wizard]

Looked to be giving us his full assortment of shite once again... at least at my end.

Yeah but you the biggest idiot on this board.

Byron was exceptional today. He is a MIDFIELDER and its about bloody time they played him there.

 

[theGav56]

Had we the Wiz or McPharlin playing, different result.

Better to accept life without Farmer, now and into the future.

 

[Shadow Man]

I thought it sounded more like a John Worsfold inspired rant. I was waiting for him to tell us that we don't have the character to support a Premiership team because we've never followed one

Pure Gold, Chook!

 

[DCFCFAN84]

If we can get a high draft pick we can turn our midfield around quite easily IMO. However to get Rich we have to finish behind the eagles which I don't see happening. If we get the second pick take Rich if we get the third take Hartlett then someone like Jetta or Hill in round 2 our midfield could look like Sandilands and Warnock as our Ruckman, Palmer, Haselby, Rich/Hartlett, Ibbotson with Headland and Carr for Depth and Hinkley, Jetta/Hill, Duffield as our developing midfielders. That could easily be one of the best midfield's in 2-3 years and at worst still quite good.

 

[Memories]

If we can get a high draft pick we can turn our midfield around quite easily IMO. However to get Rich we have to finish behind the eagles which I don't see happening. If we get the second pick take Rich if we get the third take Hartlett then someone like Jetta or Hill in round 2 our midfield could look like Sandilands and Warnock as our Ruckman, Palmer, Haselby, Rich/Hartlett, Ibbotson with Headland and Carr for Depth and Hinkley, Jetta/Hill, Duffield as our developing midfielders. That could easily be one of the best midfield's in 2-3 years and at worst still quite good.

Anything is possible really. But I agree, we are like one good midfielder away from a premiership (well 2, but Hase is already there just injured).

The other possibility is getting some possible experienced talent in the PSD like Cousins, etc. When you are this far down the ladder you can usually pick up someone good in the PSD.