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Powerade 08 said:
He managed to bring W.Minson to tears and have him suspended for a week, so probably.
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And if that is the case he will seemingly become fair game for anything outside of racial vilification as his offence will not appear genuine if he is deliberately seeking it out.
 

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Bernie Nips said:
You obviously haven't worked in research, considering most of your facts are incorrect (except the one about only reading half the thread).

ALSO, this seems to have been MISSED (or just plain ignored) and seems to explain at least Pearce's side of the story enough for people to get off his back. As has been stated by our CEO, Pearce never complained to anyone, he merely wanted to explain why he was involved in a lot of wrestling on the day:
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Dude, can you quote one "fact" from my post. The only time I even used the word was to say "unless it could be proven that it had in fact not happened". There is nothing else in my post either inaccurate or wrong, unless you believe my opinion in regards to Lucy Cornes is wrong and that she is entitled to become involved in the sledging herself.
 
Just going back to the tapes- when Cassisi said what Minson said was the worst he's ever heard..

Is Cassisi actually anywhere near the two players when the incident occured?
 
PAUR said:
What did Pearce do wrong? He wreslted with Minson on field and didn't complain to the umpire. The umpire is there the entire time, heard Minson and reported it. So what would you like Pearce to do? Give Minson his unopend box of tissues when Minson choked up at his press conference?
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Whats this I've found...

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...earce-over-slur-complaint-20120618-20k76.html

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Port Adelaide coach Matthew Primus has praised the courage of Danyle Pearce for making a complaint against Will Minson for an alleged slur about Pearce's mother.
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Seems like youve wasted your time in this thread tbh.
 
Admiral Afterworld said:
They're professional footballers. It's not too much to ask they act that way, is it?

The Western Bulldogs were right to punish him.

Those of you bringing up "political correctness" need to get a clue.
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Professionals shouldn't bump each other in the workplace either and professional bosses shouldn't give their employees the kind of spray we see coaches give players...but as we've already discussed, football is not like a traditional workplace. It's one built on aggression, and one in which getting a competitive edge is rewarded. If we didn't put so much pressure on winning and delivering a premiership, then I'm sure they could all shake hands, play a nice friendly game, and go for a cup of tea afterwards.
 
Mattrox said:
Fahour and Mifsud got offened by an off the cuff remark or two as well, and a bloke lost his job.



The umpires heard the comment and were independently taking action without Port saying anything. Port approached the umpires to explain the reason for the fisticuffs. Clearly you can't explain the brawling without mentioning the words that sparked it.

The has been a whole lot of speculation by keyboard warriors trying to justify what Minson said. There is never any justification for joking/sledging/making light of/trivialising any type of violence against women. We live in a modern age and need to move beyond "its ok because it was sledging". That sort of tone sends the message that rape/sexual assualt/demeaning acts towards women are ok, as long as you are only joking. Those matters are no joke, unless of course you are stuck in neanderthal times.

There is a blurry line between sledging and work-place harassment. I think that we will see the line cleared up soon. In an age of professionalism in sport, sportsmen (and women) are going to be expected to conduct themselves as professionals in their workplace (on sporting field).
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And keyboard warriors calling him an idiot etc etc
 
JackOutback said:
Professionals shouldn't bump each other in the workplace either and professional bosses shouldn't give their employees the kind of spray we see coaches give players...but as we've already discussed, football is not like a traditional workplace. It's one built on aggression, and one in which getting a competitive edge is rewarded. If we didn't put so much pressure on winning and delivering a premiership, then I'm sure they could all shake hands, play a nice friendly game, and go for a cup of tea afterwards.
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I'm sure it's possible to play hard, aggressively (within the rules) and successfully without slagging your opponent's relatives.
 

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Gee this day in age is different. When I grew up (during the 1980s), it was ingrained in me that sticks and stones can break your bones but names won't hurt me. This was not only by my school teachers, but also my parents. being of European background, my amily was subject to racism, but I remember distinctly my Dad considering it a badge of honor to be called a wog.

Consequently, it never really worried me when racism was directed towards me. Virtually every game I played, my sister and mother where subject of the of the standard jibes. It never worried me.

Today, young people are taught to be sensitive about these things and you can see it even in the work environment. They just don't seem to be able to handle criticism let alone 'any names' they may be called. Not only the, but it impacts on their ability to handle criticism. Quite frankly a number of them a plain soft.

While I can understand the stand taken against racism, I think Pearce typifies where Port is at as a club. Can one even imagine the top clubs being worried about such things. I recall when Franklin was abused racially earlier in the season, he didn't won't to make a fuss and just wanted to get on with it.
 
frankc said:
Gee this day in age is different. When I grew up (during the 1980s), it was ingrained in me that sticks and stones can break your bones but names won't hurt me. This was not only by my school teachers, but also my parents. being of European background, my amily was subject to racism, but I remember distinctly my Dad considering it a badge of honor to be called a wog.

Consequently, it never really worried me when racism was directed towards me. Virtually every game I played, my sister and mother where subject of the of the standard jibes. It never worried me.

Today, young people are taught to be sensitive about these things and you can see it even in the work environment. They just don't seem to be able to handle criticism let alone 'any names' they may be called. Not only the, but it impacts on their ability to handle criticism. Quite frankly a number of them a plain soft.

While I can understand the stand taken against racism, I think Pearce typifies where Port is at as a club. Can one even imagine the top clubs being worried about such things. I recall when Franklin was abused racially earlier in the season, he didn't won't to make a fuss and just wanted to get on with it.
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Yes the racial comments , a stand must be taken . However these other types of issues arising from sledges of a different nature must make NRL players and supporters laugh . It would reinforce the GAYFL type mentality . AFL is of course way ahead of the NRL in almost every way but this over policing of sledging is not one of them .
In this case a throw back mentality would be better . Even if what was said was really bad it certainly doe's create an image of player's being over sensitive . It's not a manly image for the game .
 
doggies ftw said:
Whats this I've found...

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...earce-over-slur-complaint-20120618-20k76.html

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Seems like youve wasted your time in this thread tbh.
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Wait, your quote was a journalists impression of a quote and not the actual quote that followed it? Literally this is your win? Why bother posting it. I'm happy to say you win if you can post a quote from the source, but that is not what you have done. Anyway sweet image, very ironic.
 
Those said:
This is just a big misunderstanding.
Minson logged onto Bigfooty and called Pearce's mother "silly".
The new swear filter caused Pearce to misunderstand.....
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Hehe you could be onto something there
 

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passion_1930 said:
Take the 'mother' out of and just focus on the rape part...is that acceptable?
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Wouldn't make sense without attaching it to someone the sledgee cared about ...... anyway:

a) Personally I wouldn't say it's acceptable but neither is a heap of other sledging and
b) not proven he said that and
c) players say all sorts of stupid shit while sledging each other so don't pick out one guy and crucify him for it.


Thank you
 
BlueTouchPaper said:
I may have missed something but has this been substantiated yet?
Even if its just a post around here by someone claiming to be at PAFC or the WBD?
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What was said is not going to be publically stated but it was not consensual sex that Minson sledged about but holding his mother down and ''f.... her for twenty minutes and then another thirty minutes''. Remember Pearcey did not report the matter but went to Rhode concerned about the melee and the fact he had just been fined for wrestling the previous week. The umpires had already started a report when Rhode went to speak to them about the melee. Caroline Wilson stated on 5AA that it was a violent sexual act.
 
raglan road said:
You think it's hard to sexually assualt women too? Or hard to brag/joke about sexually assaulting a person's mother? The only pathetic cowards are you and your ilk.
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The quality of posting that this topic solicits is interesting.

Who says he even said 'that'? How then does that make the poster you quoted infer that he condones or respects sexual assault?

Throwing around some pretty heavy accusations.
passion_1930 said:
What was said is not going to be publically stated but it was not consensual sex that Minson sledged about but holding his mother down and ''f.... her for twenty minutes and then another thirty minutes''. Remember Pearcey did not report the matter but went to Rhode concerned about the melee and the fact he had just been fined for wrestling the previous week. The umpires had already started a report when Rhode went to speak to them about the melee. Caroline Wilson stated on 5AA that it was a violent sexual act.
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Why should it not be publicly stated, though? Any player should be held accountable for what they've said.

If Minson said something like that, I feel like it should've been a far bigger penalty than what was received, and should (IMO) attract a penalty akin to Sherman's (?) if not worse.

Alas, why was what Minson inferred automatically rape as opposed to 'rough', for instance?

Also, I didn't know that Pearce went to Rhode for that reason. But how you think it makes the matter clearer, or indicates Minson's guilt is a convenient interpretation, especially if you assume Pearce thought it would stay in house.

Wilson's statement speaks more to her agenda and status as an average journalist who (according to a quick search) didn't bother to write half as much on Sutton or Springer. Suggesting it was a violent sexual act is so far apart from it being an illegal sexual act.

Why not say as much? Why do her words count for more than Picken's?
 
raglan road said:
You think it's hard to sexually assualt women too? Or hard to brag/joke about sexually assaulting a person's mother? The only pathetic cowards are you and your ilk.
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It as an untrue sledge that was aimed at putting Pearce of his game, and it worked and now Pearce has come off looking like a sook when he should had ignored it.

You are a big hero it was just a sledge I can't understand why anyone would be upset over something that has no truth in it.
 

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