Money!!!!

[mundine the man]

I think their should be more restrictions on how many players , and how much can be spent each year , because every year the same teams dominate , the ones with most money , then you look down botton of the premier league teams with not as much money to not have a chance

Should they change all this so smaller teams have a chance to get up their and get more money to be more competitive???

 

[apollo_creed]

A salary cap in soccer. An idea but i don't think it would work. It's fine how it is now, your right a smaller club like Bolton is never going to win the Premier League and the same teams are always in the top few in the league. However there can be exceptions just look at Blackburn in 95, there was an influx of money at that time, but they were relegated a couple of seasons after winning it.
I don't think you can restrict how many players a team can buy a year. What it Luton Town loses 7 players to retirement, are you going to tell them they can only buy 3 players. Soccer has progressed and the only way players can go from club to club is money and no other way. Having lots of money and being a large club isn't always necessarily a good thing, look at leeds an the predicament they've gotten themselves into. Even Chelsea until Roman came along were in serious financial troubles. ManYoo and the Gooners (especially them) won't be u contesting the top 2 of the league forever. Particuarly Arsenal they aren't a huge club and don't have that much more money than 6 or 7 clubs in the league. They built there success around good, cheap, valuable signings. Henry was about 9 million pound but what a bargain, 7 about 10 clubs in England could afford a fee of that sort.
Aston Villa payed 9.5 million pound for Angel about 7 or 8 million for Colymore and here has that got them. Imagine if Villa had Henry and Vieira running around in there team and Arsenal didn't, do you think Arsenal would be doing anything. It's not like Arsenal went out and spent 25 million pound on these two blokes. Then they bought players like Vieira and Anelka who weren't dear but won them the title and created revenue to raise more money. Same with Liverpool look at there squad and how much they have payed for some of there players. Hyypia was about 3 million pound cudicini hardly anything, riise, finnan 4 million pound, kewell 7, baros not much. having good scouts and a good eye for young talent is sometimes more effective than going out and spending hundreds of millions in players ala Chelsea.
Who knows a club like Everton or even Villa could be up challenging for the title in a couple of years time, all they need is some good signings and a good youth academy which they both have, possibly the two best in the land.
Money doesn't always buy success.

 

[apollo_creed]

Originally posted by apollo_creed
Same with Liverpool look at there squad and how much they have payed for some of there players. Hyypia was about 3 million pound cudicini hardly anything, riise, finnan 4 million pound, kewell 7, baros not much.

Dudek, not Cudicini

 

[Dipper]

OK so if you put in restrictions then do put the limit at whata club like Portsmouth can afford so that a club like Man U has about £80m that it can't spend or do you put the limit at a higher level that most teams can't afford anyway?

Basically it'll never happen & we happen to like it the way it is, if other countries/sports want to create an artificially 'fair' situation then that's up to them but I like competition.

 

[sainter]

I would have agreed with you a couple of years ago Mundine but I'm now of the opinion that every club needs to know their limitation and they can be successful. A team like Bolton as an example don't have a lot of money but have been able to make some great loan signings and have since turned some of those into permanent signings. Despite spending a little more often in the past few seasons, the Saints record transfer purchase is only 3.8 million pounds and the highest paid player is on 16K a week. Last season we finished 8th and made the UEFA Cup final, this season we are 4th (early days obviously) and have our first european tie in 19 years coming up. It's the teams like Ipswich that after a bit of success went overboard and thought they were bigger than they actually were that come unstuck.

I do love the fact that there are concessions in place in the AFL in an attempt to have as even a competition as possible. This isn't the AFL here. If it's this kind of league you want in the english premiership then you are dreaming and probably just need to deal with the fact that it will never be the case.

 

[bugman5]

Hey everyone, first time poster in this forum, but I have been reading the topics since about April. Had to jump in here because I'm currently writing an Economics thesis on this very topic, a European football salary cap.

Basically under the current transfer system, a hard cap like the AFL's would be useless as transfer fees would still allow major clubs to monopolise the market for the best players. FIFPro, the worldwide players association, wont support a salary cap without a change to the transfer system.

My proposal is rather to abolish transfer fees and instead auction players under the constraint of the salary cap. The main stumbling block is there are 699 clubs in the first division in all of the European leagues. Arranging such a system would be pretty difficult.

One of the biggest problems in trying to introduce a cap would be the threat of a breakaway competition. In 98, Media Partners of Milan proposed a breakaway "Superleague" that was at the time rejected by the G-14, the body representing Europes 18 largest clubs. However the G-14 met with Media Partners in March this year, and have not reported the results of meeting. If a cap was installed, these clubs would be significant losers and would be very interested in the almost unlimited pool of revenues that a season long league (much larger than the Champions League) would generate.

Actually implementing a salary cap would be almost impossible Europe wide, and if it wasn't that wide, leagues that dont introduce a cap would drain the best talent away from constrained leagues.

Sorry for the length of the rant, I would be interested in other peoples opinions on the subject though.

BTW, thanks to all the regular posters in this forum, youre casual comments in here over the last few months have provided me with a lot of food for thought, and its been really helpful.

 

[Yabba]

there was an idea that clubs couldnt spend over 1/3 of their income on transfers but everyone cracked the sihts and its never gonna happen until another few fiorintinas happen

 

[Pantsless]

In the Nationwide Conference and not sure about Divs 1,2,3, the Football League have introduced a 65% of income cap for clubs.

I think that's more for trying to stop clubs going broke, than to even up the competition.