Toast Morabito tracking thread

[UFO Tatsu]

Video of mora doing a light run around ... brings a tear in the eye ... great to see him out

 

[jmadrox]

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/video/2013-03-13/media-conference-anthony-morabito-130313

His media conference from this morning is up now.

something - Barlow-esk about him at the moment. Realising the opportunity he has, and what he wants to do with it...

 

[Aussiblood]

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/video/2013-03-13/media-conference-anthony-morabito-130313

His media conference from this morning is up now.

Important piece of info re: the LARS was that it is the hybrid variety - which is intended to strengthen the ligament but will also extend the turnaround time due to the hamstring graft. So, lets all not jump up and down when Mora is not at full speed in 3 weeks...

 

[Quokka]

Think most of us would be happy with a couple of late season appearances for peel and another preseason to be sure, though its likely to be much quicker. How ever long it takes, I just hope that when Morabito is absolutely sure, the doctors are signed off and the club says everything is as good as it possibly can be, that they then sit down and give it another month.

 

[jmadrox]

Think most of us would be happy with a couple of late season appearances for peel and another preseason to be sure, though its likely to be much quicker. How ever long it takes, I just hope that when Morabito is absolutely sure, the doctors are signed off and the club says everything is as good as it possibly can be, that they then sit down and give it another month.

i disagree entirely. U recon Mora would have had LAR's happy to have a few late season appearances for Peel? Not on your life. I want the guy to have the success (as well as the rest of the boys) that he deserves, and enjoy the spotlight on the main stage for a while.

Even after the additional month, he could be at training and have an awkward tackle and do it again, and he would have just missed the opportunity to play for 4 weeks. Get him out as soon as he is fit and available. get the confidence back in to him, get some minutes in the legs. if it goes, it goes. We are so worried about him doing his knee again during a game.... where has he done it previously? Training, Training, and Training... he has a 0% failure rate in games...

 

[greatgatsby]

'Doc' Larkins (who I usually find kind of annoying) made the point on the AFL site that the hybrid operation Morabito underwent suits him perfectly in that it offers a good long-term prognosis while giving him the opportunity to play footy in 2013, which Larkins correctly notes is important for the kid's mental state.

I see no reason to be ultra conservative with Mora's return. When he's been able to train full tilt for a few weeks he should play. The opportunity to be running so early in his rehab seems to have had a positive effect on his morale.

 

[Quokka]

i disagree entirely. U recon Mora would have had LAR's happy to have a few late season appearances for Peel? Not on your life. I want the guy to have the success (as well as the rest of the boys) that he deserves, and enjoy the spotlight on the main stage for a while.

Even after the additional month, he could be at training and have an awkward tackle and do it again, and he would have just missed the opportunity to play for 4 weeks. Get him out as soon as he is fit and available. get the confidence back in to him, get some minutes in the legs. if it goes, it goes. We are so worried about him doing his knee again during a game.... where has he done it previously? Training, Training, and Training... he has a 0% failure rate in games...

I was exaggerating a fair bit in my post but I did add that I thought it was likely to be much quicker. In fact his best case scenario could see him back in purple before the mid season break (still another 12 weeks or so) with it probably being somewhere in between. My main point was that there shouldn't be any expectations on when he returns except by Morabito and those around him, he'll be back when they make their best guess that he's ready.

It may not even be his knee that holds him back, I'm sure he's fit now and about to get a whole lot fitter but after 2 and a half years since his last AFL game he can do all the training in the world and it may still take time to build the match fitness (and touch and confidence) he needs to play at the top level again.

Who knows, either way I'm hoping to be down at Rushton Park in the not too distant future and watching to see just how quickly the guy can be back.

 

[freodog]

I'm concerned with the talk about have a bit of a Lars & a bit of a hamstring. I only hope they did a full Lars with a bonus hamstring graft included.

You would think there is extra recovery time needed to recover from the graft.

 

[E Shed]

'Doc' Larkins (who I usually find kind of annoying) made the point on the AFL site that the hybrid operation Morabito underwent suits him perfectly in that it offers a good long-term prognosis while giving him the opportunity to play footy in 2013, which Larkins correctly notes is important for the kid's mental state.

I see no reason to be ultra conservative with Mora's return. When he's been able to train full tilt for a few weeks he should play. The opportunity to be running so early in his rehab seems to have had a positive effect on his morale.

I agree. I was rapt to hear him so confident. Especially when he said he knows he can match it with anyone on the footy field. I love to hear that arrogance/confidence.

 

[Aussiblood]

I'm concerned with the talk about have a bit of a Lars & a bit of a hamstring. I only hope they did a full Lars with a bonus hamstring graft included.

You would think there is extra recovery time needed to recover from the graft.

Yes this is the case - LARS + added hamstring graft for added durability. He went for Ultimate instead of Unleaded. Equals longer return re: hamstring repair.

 

[se17enteen]

The Morabito return will be one of the feel good story of the year for me, up there with my divorce.

 

[Ghost Pig]

I'm finding it really hard to compartmentalize my emotions when it comes to Mora, it's either full blown adoration and anticipation, or dread and bitterness at the thought of offering up my hope, knowing full well its fate is just as entwined with that synthetic fibre as a sliver of hamstring tendon.

I loathe to feel too much.

 

[BananaOnTheRun]

I'm finding it really hard to compartmentalize my emotions when it comes to Mora, it's either full blown adoration and anticipation, or dread and bitterness at the thought of offering up my hope, knowing full well its fate is just as entwined with that synthetic fibre as a sliver of hamstring tendon.

I loathe to feel too much.

yeah, it sucks balls. i'm not gonna be relaxed until he gets on the field in a couple of months and really only if he finishes the season. guess he can't afford to think that far ahead.

 

[Darcy 2 Fyfe]

Hopefully I'll be home and can go to his comeback match. I reckon he'll come back off the bench or a sub, either way the noise will be huge from the sound of grown wailing men. I for one will very emotional for our young superstar.

 

[masai]

Especially when he said he knows he can match it with anyone on the footy field. I love to hear that arrogance/confidence.

As I can see him as a future replacement in alot of ways for Pav, he might be nipping at Pavs heals.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Worth a read, although it sounds Larkin's is being a bit pessimistic.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/16364493/morabito-told-to-go-slow/

Sports medicine expert Peter Larkins has urged caution with the time set for a return to playing by Fremantle's Anthony Morabito, saying recovery from the "hybrid" LARS knee reconstruction could take six months and was a "best-guess" scenario.
Larkins said nine AFL players had undergone LARS, but Morabito's was the only one he was aware of who had used both the synthetic anterior cruciate ligament augmentation and the traditional hamstring graft in the surgery.

 

[BananaOnTheRun]

Worth a read, although it sounds Larkin's is being a bit pessimistic.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/16364493/morabito-told-to-go-slow/

Sports medicine expert Peter Larkins has urged caution with the time set for a return to playing by Fremantle's Anthony Morabito, saying recovery from the "hybrid" LARS knee reconstruction could take six months and was a "best-guess" scenario.
Larkins said nine AFL players had undergone LARS, but Morabito's was the only one he was aware of who had used both the synthetic anterior cruciate ligament augmentation and the traditional hamstring graft in the surgery.

Larkins also said that LARS wasn't an option for Mora, so what he says needs a second opinion.

 

[bruzaar62]

The Morabito return will be one of the feel good story of the year for me, up there with my divorce.

Sounds like you got married to young

 

[se17enteen]

Sounds like you got married to young

I got married because I was too drunk.

 

[Arcassius]

ANTHONY Morabito's decision to undergo a "hybrid" version of LARS surgery on his left knee has given him a better chance of making a full and lasting recovery, according to leading sports physician Dr Peter Larkins.

Morabito, who is already running after surgery in January and hoping for a playing return mid-season, is the first AFL player to undergo what Larkins labelled "LARS premium".

The Fremantle midfielder spoke to the media on Wednesday morning for the first time since his third knee reconstruction, outlining what he said was the "logical answer" to his injury troubles.

"We went for a hybrid graft, which incorporates the LARS with part of your own hamstring tendon," Morabito said.

"The aim of that is to get the short turnaround of the LARS but also have the longevity of a hamstring graft over time.

"Once we had the information, it seemed like the logical answer, just because it did give you that long-term effect if all goes to plan.

"I would not have wanted to go down the pure LARS path per say, just for the fact that I would have felt like I was trying to salvage something out of nothing."

Dr Larkins, who agreed with Fremantle and Morabito's decision, said the hybrid surgery was "essentially a traditional operation with a little bit of LARS thrown in".

He said the operation would have a better chance of success because the 21-year-old would have his own tissue in the knee, not just a piece of nylon.

"I think it's smarter than just doing the LARS," Larkins told AFL.com.au.

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2013-03-13/lars-premium-for-morabito

 

[Arcassius]

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2013-03-13/mora-menzel-and-mal-help-the-mend

Perhaps the most lasting images of the 2012 AFL season will be those of Sydney Swan Nick Malceski kicking the winning goal in the Grand Final and taking off on a euphoric run with his joyous teammates.

For Malceski, just playing sport was a momentous victory in itself, let alone winning Australian sport’s biggest prize on the grandest stage of all, the MCG.

He has undergone three surgeries to repair ACL injuries on his knees since 2004.

While the first was a traditional reconstruction on his left knee that cost him his entire debut season, Malceski hurt his right knee in 2008 and 2011.

On both occasions he underwent LARS surgery and returned to action just 12 weeks after the procedure.

The 28-year-old Swan used his association with former Sydney and current Fremantle stoppages coach Mark Stone to contact Freo Docker Anthony Morabito, who underwent a hybrid graft operation in January, which is a combination of LARS and a hamstring tendon.

"I gave Anthony a call and had a chat about LARS. I gave him the facts about how quickly you get back into it," Malceski told The Herald Sun recently.

Malceski spoke with Morabito for about half an hour just two days after the Freo Docker had re-injured his left knee at training.

“He painted a completely different picture to what I was feeling at that stage,” Morabito said.

Morabito, who was due to be out of contract at the end of this season, was struggling with the thought of another 12 months of rehabilitation.

“Speaking to Nick really lifted my spirits,” he said.

“He told me that after he’d had his surgery, within 10 weeks, he was basically feeling a million bucks.”

“He had his LARS operations done in February, and each time he got back by round 8, so for me that was quite heartening to hear that from him and what he’s been through.”

“To be able to kick the winning goal in the Grand Final, post two of those operations, it does give you hope.

“Like Nick said to me: Anything is possible. You can’t write yourself off just because everyone says it’s another recon.”Perhaps the most lasting images of the 2012 AFL season will be those of Sydney Swan Nick Malceski kicking the winning goal in the Grand Final and taking off on a euphoric run with his joyous teammates.

For Malceski, just playing sport was a momentous victory in itself, let alone winning Australian sport’s biggest prize on the grandest stage of all, the MCG.

He has undergone three surgeries to repair ACL injuries on his knees since 2004.

While the first was a traditional reconstruction on his left knee that cost him his entire debut season, Malceski hurt his right knee in 2008 and 2011.

On both occasions he underwent LARS surgery and returned to action just 12 weeks after the procedure.

The 28-year-old Swan used his association with former Sydney and current Fremantle stoppages coach Mark Stone to contact Freo Docker Anthony Morabito, who underwent a hybrid graft operation in January, which is a combination of LARS and a hamstring tendon.

"I gave Anthony a call and had a chat about LARS. I gave him the facts about how quickly you get back into it," Malceski told The Herald Sun recently.

Malceski spoke with Morabito for about half an hour just two days after the Freo Docker had re-injured his left knee at training.

“He painted a completely different picture to what I was feeling at that stage,” Morabito said.

Morabito, who was due to be out of contract at the end of this season, was struggling with the thought of another 12 months of rehabilitation.

“Speaking to Nick really lifted my spirits,” he said.

“He told me that after he’d had his surgery, within 10 weeks, he was basically feeling a million bucks.”

“He had his LARS operations done in February, and each time he got back by round 8, so for me that was quite heartening to hear that from him and what he’s been through.”

“To be able to kick the winning goal in the Grand Final, post two of those operations, it does give you hope.

“Like Nick said to me: Anything is possible. You can’t write yourself off just because everyone says it’s another recon.”

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Larkins also said that LARS wasn't an option for Mora, so what he says needs a second opinion.

He did too.
He's no expert; I'll take the surgeon's opinion any day.

 

[Wigarus]

He did too.
He's no expert; I'll take the surgeon's opinion any day.

He went to a lot of lengths though to say that he wasn't privy to all of his info and that he was just speculating.

 

[Freo2012]

Larkins also said that LARS wasn't an option for Mora, so what he says needs a second opinion.

Larkin is often way off the money. He's become spellbound by the media spotlight of being sports medico expert, commenting on cases without seeing the file/record - very dangerous and dumb for a medico to do s0. Another AFL media personality who is becoming more and more interested in being on record as often as possible rather than actual facts and details of individual cases.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Larkin is often way off the money. He's become spellbound by the media spotlight of being sports medico expert, commenting on cases without seeing the file/record - very dangerous and dumb for a medico to do s0. Another AFL media personality who is becoming more and more interested in being on record as often as possible rather than actual facts and details of individual cases.

Exactly.
He's trying to be a media personality, first and foremost and failing badly.
I tried to speak to him on a flight last year and he was arrogant to the point of rudeness.

When Mora re-injured his knee recently, Larkin was unequivocal that LARS was not an option for him.
Healy's opinion is worth more on injuries.