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yoong said:
Low impact is Darren Glass' whacked on Wingard , who is down for minutes, then had to go hospital for a scan.
Mundy needed to stomp on the duck's chest to even out the low impact charge IMO. o_O

Mundy might as well challenge the charge. 75 points and 90 points is not really a big difference. If he got charged again with anything he'll probably cop an extra week anyway (seem like 125 points is the minimum nowadays).
Based on the vision its a soft bump. Bad call from MRP.
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Josh Gibson got a reprimand for an incident very similar to Glass. The MRP just helps out the big Victorian teams. The AFL hates any team from WA or SA. Don't think otherwise. Glass deserved more than Fyfe yes but one week was about right. Fyfe should've got nothing, while Gibson should've got two. Just my opinion.

I'm 90% both the Dawson and Shuey incidents would've been let go if they played for a big four vic club. It's easy for the MRP to ignore that footage and let those go. Basically no one sees the footage they got done with. (Realise no one from a Victorian team has been do e off behind the goals footage yet) The MRP is all about getting big crowd pulling teams playing finals at the MCG so Demetriou can fill his pockets full of cash or at least it appears so.
 
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I like what Mundy did. Fyfe was struggling with the tag & Mundy has gone and laid into Selwood letting him know that Fyfe will be looked after.
Take the reprimand & move on. Wouldn't mind a few weeks without an incident now though haha
 
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-05/viney-goes-to-tribunal

Some very interesting listening - if he only gets 1 week I will be shocked- (Vic Centric MRP at its finest)

For those people who do not want to listen the key things were.(below)

He would get 3-4 weeks based on high contact, high force and negligent or reckless.

They think this penalty is quiet harsh and over top, sent to tribunal to get the penalty down.

He has tensed up, and protected himself. Viney did not make contact with Lynch's head.

Interesting test case, a fair penalty is 1 week or a reprimand.
 
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go_the_dockers said:
f he only gets 1 week I will be shocked- (Vic Centric MRP at its finest)

Interesting test case, a fair penalty is 1 week or a reprimand.
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A bit contradictory there mate. On one hand you are saying 1 week or a reprimand is fair but if that is all he gets it's Vic centric.
 

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go_the_dockers said:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-05/viney-goes-to-tribunal

Some very interesting listening - if he only gets 1 week I will be shocked- (Vic Centric MRP at its finest)

For those people who do not want to listen the key things were.(below)

He would get 3-4 weeks based on high contact, high force and negligent or reckless.

They think this penalty is quiet harsh and over top, sent to tribunal to get the penalty down.

He has tensed up, and protected himself. Viney did not make contact with Lynch's head.

Interesting test case, a fair penalty is 1 week or a reprimand.
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gaskin said:
A bit contradictory there mate. On one hand you are saying 1 week or a reprimand is fair but if that is all he gets it's Vic centric.
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You missed the statement in bold, is that clearer?
 
yoong said:
Won't be surprised that Viney will get 2 weeks, down to 1 with a guilty plea.
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Just can't see it. Force has to at least high, Impact is High.

At best the intent is negligent (Fyfe got Reckless) then it is 3 weeks, 2 with early plea. I thought he was reckless.

I could stomach it a bit easier if they were the same with Fyfe, but with this they said he had the option to smother\tackle why are they not consistent.
 
E Shed said:
Viney should get nothing. Brilliant bit of play & the head clash came from behind.
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Somewhat agree but heading to the tribunal the best he can hope for is roughly 1-2 weeks. A reprimand is more than far although I don't know how reprimands would even work without the early plea system (seems you can't get under 125 demerit points) as well as no real way of deciding the correct amount of points other than opinions of morons at the MRP so giving him nothing is perhaps the best way to go about it, although as I said I'd be expecting 1-2 weeks.
 

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go_the_dockers said:
Just can't see it. Force has to at least high, Impact is High.

At best the intent is negligent (Fyfe got Reckless) then it is 3 weeks, 2 with early plea. I thought he was reckless.

I could stomach it a bit easier if they were the same with Fyfe, but with this they said he had the option to smother\tackle why are they not consistent.
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Agree with Reckless.

The big question is how they'll grade indirect impact.
They claimed that it was Georgiou that broke Lynch's jaw from the force of the bump.
My suspicion is that they reduce the impact grading to medium based on that.
That will be same as Fyfe's 2 weeks. The only difference is that Fyfe had carry over points.
Viney will be given the option to plea guilty and reduce it down to 1.

And yes, I don't think it'll be fair to Fyfe if Viney got the same penalty, but then, I think we'll have to accept that Fyfe's was a bad call and let it pass.
Continuing to judging all other incidents based on Fyfe's is just bad for footy as a whole.
 
isn't an attempted trip a charge, i thought it was. D Fletcher did a very obvious one, it was shown multiple times but i have seen it written up.
 
gaskin said:
He'll get off. You can argue strongly that he had no other choice and it was an unfortunate accident. If he does get anything then this game has turned into a farce.
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I believe if you managed to braced yourself, you are considered to be going for the bump (based on Pav's call last year).
The whole game have already gone crazy after the Fyfe's call.
 
yoong said:
Agree with Reckless.

The big question is how they'll grade indirect impact.
They claimed that it was Georgiou that broke Lynch's jaw from the force of the bump.
My suspicion is that they reduce the impact grading to medium based on that.
That will be same as Fyfe's 2 weeks. The only difference is that Fyfe had carry over points.
Viney will be given the option to plea guilty and reduce it down to 1.

And yes, I don't think it'll be fair to Fyfe if Viney got the same penalty, but then, I think we'll have to accept that Fyfe's was a bad call and let it pass.
Continuing to judging all other incidents based on Fyfe's is just bad for footy as a whole.
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The following is taken from the definition of "Impact" in the Tribunal Booklet:

In determining the level of impact, regard will be had to the extent of force and in particular, any injury sustained by the player who was offended against. Regard will also be had to the potential to cause injury. For example, contact to the head will generally have more impact than contact to the body if the force used is similar.

In determining the level of impact regard shall be had not only to the impact between the offending player and the victim player, but also any other impact to the victim player as a result of such impact. By way of an example, where a victim player as a result of the impact from the offending player is pushed into the path of a fast-moving third player, the impact to the victim player may be classified as high or severe, even though the level of impact between the offending
player and the victim player was only low or medium.
 
yoong said:
I believe if you managed to braced yourself, you are considered to be going for the bump (based on Pav's call last year).
The whole game have already gone crazy after the Fyfe's call.
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The general consensus is that he had no other option in this case other than to jump out the way which would have caused him to get absolutely smashed by his coach and team mates as well as being a bad look for the game.
 

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gaskin said:
The general consensus is that he had no other option in this case other than to jump out the way which would have caused him to get absolutely smashed by his coach and team mates as well as being a bad look for the game.
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I still think he could have tackled.
 
gaskin said:
The general consensus is that he had no other option in this case other than to jump out the way which would have caused him to get absolutely smashed by his coach and team mates as well as being a bad look for the game.
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there you go, he had an option! :p

Ok, I'll stop being cheeky.:D
I'm trying to think like MRP, hence, I believe that's what they'll give him at the tribunal.
After all the technical assessment, at the back of their head, they'll be thinking they can't let a player go after his actions caused a broken jaw, intentional or not.

This will be a bad decision of course. Its still a contact sport. Not to sure how they expect players to run around the field without bumping into one another. :(
 
E Shed said:
Viney should get nothing. Brilliant bit of play & the head clash came from behind.
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Fyfe should have got nothing too. Have to treat accidental head clashes consistently, one is not "more of an accident" than the other.
 
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I've played bubble soccer with work recently and had so much fun, can recommend it to anyone!

At the end of the day we were lining each other up and running at full pace and bouncing back with only a slight dose of whiplash (as your heads aren't fixed in.)
 
Seppo said:
I've played bubble soccer with work recently and had so much fun, can recommend it to anyone!

At the end of the day we were lining each other up and running at full pace and bouncing back with only a slight dose of whiplash (as your heads aren't fixed in.)
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we rolled someone down a hill in one of those ... funny stuff

EDIT: OHS was not happy
 
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