Murray Newman

[SpaceClef]

Yeah I couldn't imagine how he's feeling. I lost my lisence a few years back and had to go to court for an extraordinary licence and absolutely shat balls in there

I hope you went to manners school and kept your hands out of your pockets.


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[eagles rule]

The new Murray Newman will be emerging if he can beat a conviction .Its been reported that he is training the house down and impressing the coaches in interclub matches ..

 

[jaxxon]

Impending charges haven't stopped Marley Williams playing for Collingwood. Hopefully Newman gets a run in the preseason games.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

Impending charges haven't stopped Marley Williams playing for Collingwood. Hopefully Newman gets a run in the preseason games.

Yes i notice that on wednesday. Very interesting.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Impending charges haven't stopped Marley Williams playing for Collingwood. Hopefully Newman gets a run in the preseason games.

His trial is supposed to start in Albany on Monday

 

[Eaglemaniac]

His trial is supposed to start in Albany on Monday

Albany? I hope they've got the kicking boot ready..

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[QS]

impending trial and convicted of a criminal offence are different things imo

 

[the harry]

impending trial and convicted of a criminal offence are different things imo

Agreed. Something about the presumption of innocence?

 

[QS]

Agreed. Something about the presumption of innocence?

You'd think that doesn't exist these days though..

 

[SwiftforPM]

No way will the eagles play Murray in the nab cup, would not be good for anyone if
Murray loses his cool and smacks someone on the field.

Did you see him push that Dockers player in the shoulder? Lucky he didn't do the McGinnity and take out a Docker head.

 

[QS]

Thought he looked good today.

 

[the harry]

Thought he looked good today.

Yeah thought he did well, had second and third efforts, finished with a goal too.

 

[SpaceClef]

He's not very quick though and for a little guy I reckon he's gonna struggle to make an impact.


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[the harry]

He's not very quick though and for a little guy I reckon he's gonna struggle to make an impact.


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Will ultimately be a mid not a small forward I think, so not having heaps of pace hopefully won't hold him back.

 

[larrikin]

He's not very quick though and for a little guy I reckon he's gonna struggle to make an impact.

I thought he showed his pace a couple of times last night.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

I was pleasantly surprised with his efforts last night. Definitely looks like someone worth persevering with football talent wise.

 

[Chris_6678]

Newman isn't that small he is 182cm's.

I thought he played a decent game and it is a good starting base.

 

[CursoryMercenary]

Definitely still has a big future ahead of him, hope he continues to improve on and off the field.

 

[placebo]

He's not very quick though and for a little guy I reckon he's gonna struggle to make an impact.


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He's actually got quite a good turn of pace, and can accelerate when needed. If you get a chance to watch him at WAFL level, you'll notice it a lot more.

 

[SpaceClef]

He's actually got quite a good turn of pace, and can accelerate when needed. If you get a chance to watch him at WAFL level, you'll notice it a lot more.

Maybe wafl players are just a bit slower? I dunno, he got burned off by Mzungu, who is quite quick, but if you want to be a small player in the afl you either have to be a clearance god, have elite endurance, or elite speed. He definitely doesn't have elite endurance.


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[QS]

How does everyone feel about a convicted criminal playing for us?

Would we draft a kid who had been convicted of a similar offence as a juvenile?

 

[Broken_Chairs]

How does everyone feel about a convicted criminal playing for us?

Would we draft a kid who had been convicted of a similar offence as a juvenile?

SUCH IS LIFE

 

[TOA.]

How does everyone feel about a convicted criminal playing for us?

Would we draft a kid who had been convicted of a similar offence as a juvenile?

Is that relevant? Would we have drafted Cousins as a mature ager after he was caught running from a booze bus?

Dont forget the Pies drafted Andrew Krakouer after he spent years in prison.

One stupid mistake as a 19yr old should not be a life sentence both in terms of his real and football life. It is worth supporting him, if he was let go then I would worry for him. He deserves our support, even if he is somewhat fortunate to have it.

 

[the harry]

How does everyone feel about a convicted criminal playing for us?

Would we draft a kid who had been convicted of a similar offence as a juvenile?

Would it be different if he was found not guilty on a technicality? Or if the jury believed his "self defence" claims? Treatment of Milne suggests that a conviction is not required for the broader footballing community to judge.

I'm pretty keen on the whole second chance/redemption and "our club is not a court" line of thought. But it's a pretty complicated matter, clubs often act as courts and deem certain acts unacceptable even before the real courts have had their chance, with the decision often primarily driven by motives other than justice, such as PR, on field performance, or just convenience (Saints with Lovett).

Helps in the diversity stakes though.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Dont forget the Pies drafted Andrew Krakouer after he spent years in prison.

It is worth supporting him, if he was let go then I would worry for him. He deserves our support, even if he is somewhat fortunate to have it.

Difference with Krakouer, is that he'd already been released from prison (considered to be reformed), unlike Newman, who was found guility while he was on our list and was only demoted to the rookie list. IMO, he shouldn't even be considered until after his sentencing (and obviously has not been given a prison sentence). I don't mind him training with the club, being given support, etc, though; but he shouldn't be playing at the moment, even if it's only in pre-season.