Murray Newman

[LordHaart]

So is Friday just a conferring of the sentence? Is there any further opportunity for the defendant to plead for a lighter sentence, or has the decision effectively been made already?

 

[Keys]

I'm tipping two years suspended sentence, a fine and some financial compensation to the victim (if they actually do that) and some form of community service.

Don't really know why because I know **** all about the area but I don't think he'll get jail time

 

[Chris_6678]

http://www.districtcourt.wa.gov.au/_apps/courtlist/default.aspx

He is being sentenced at 9:15

....and his middle name is Edgar.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

So is Friday just a conferring of the sentence? Is there any further opportunity for the defendant to plead for a lighter sentence, or has the decision effectively been made already?

Both sides will make submissions - the prosecutor will state what penalty the State seeks and why, and then our QC will give reasons why the sentence should not be an immediate term of imprisonment.

The Judge will then hand down his sentence.

(I've got that right haven't I QS ?)

 

[Keys]

http://www.districtcourt.wa.gov.au/_apps/courtlist/default.aspx

He is being sentenced at 9:15

....and his middle name is Edgar.

The only case set down in that court for the day by the looks. Wonder if that means its likley to take a while or its just all that judge has for today.

Also for the lawyer types is the sentence handed down today or is the judge just taing submissions from the prosecution and defence to take into consideration when eventually handing down the sentence?


Finally

The Queen -v- Boy DJARA

Interesting first name

Edit : Thanks Fivey for preemptively answering my question

 

[mick06]

Should have asked the club for a live feed of the sentencing.

 

[QS]

Both sides will make submissions - the prosecutor will state what penalty the State seeks and why, and then our QC will give reasons why the sentence should not be an immediate term of imprisonment.

The Judge will then hand down his sentence.

(I've got that right haven't I QS ?)

Indeed... plea in mitigation better be damned good.
I'm conflicted about this:
a) if he doesn't go to prison, then what message does this send to the public? It is okay to hit someone unprovoked and shatter their jaw? Anyone else but one of our players and we would be baying for blood.
b) he deserves to be rehabilitated with conditions.. prison is not the best place to achieve that.

 

[pantskyle]

Any news?

 

[Chris_6678]

Surely there would be an outcome by now.

 

[mick06]

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/journalists-allowed-to-tweet-in-wa-courts-20140131-31s2f.html

Some journo must be in there

 

[pantskyle]

This delay doesn't bode well for Muzza.

 

[QS]

 

[Keys]

Surely there would be an outcome by now.

Lawyers / QCs being paid $1,000's per hour why would they rush?

 

[Chris_6678]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/21867249/eagle-asks-to-be-spared-jail/

 

[TOA.]

I'm abit confused. From my knowledge of criminal law at least in the Supreme Court, counsel argue this stuff before the date of sentencing. The judge then retires for a couple of weeks to consider the sentence. If the judge is actually going to hand down the sentence today, I would have thought his mind would have been 80% made up at least.

 

[Chris_6678]

"Newman, whose team mates Nic Naitanui, Dan Cox and Jack Darling had come to support him in front of the jury during the trial, had argued he acted in self defence"

Lol Luke Priddis, Dan Cox and Brad Sheed?

 

[Keys]

But Judge John Staude queried the defence's submissions that Newman was remorseful and that his behaviour had been an aberration, with the judge pointing to the repeated challenges for a fight made by the player online before the assault despite his victim teling him to go away.
"It was a considered act... it wasn't a spontaneous outburst," Judge Staude said, noting the player had been sober when he acted on a "deep" grudge in a violent way.
"He's only sorry because he has been convicted," the judge said, adding that while Newman had not denied hitting Mr Marris he had not taken responsibility for it.
The judge also queried the defence request for mercy given Newman's bright career as a footballer would end if jailed - confirming that while an assault conviction was not seen as enough to terminate his contract with the club, a jail term would.
Judge Staude suggested Newman was suffering no more hardship than any other employed person who lost their job because when they were sent to prison.

Doesn't bode well for muzza

 

[TOA.]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/21867249/eagle-asks-to-be-spared-jail/

hmm, doesnt read well for Murray. Fingers crossed.

Hopefully the judge is going for the 'I will question counsel submissions a lot so when I do give a suspended sentence it looks like I really considered jail time' approach

 

[pantskyle]

Judge Staude sounds like a real campaigner.

 

[Keys]

Judge Staude sounds like a real Syd.

All lawyers are campaigners (with one or two WCE supporting exceptions)

All judges were once lawyers

Judges are really then just elevated campaigners

 

[pantskyle]

All lawyers are Syds (with one or two WCE supporting exceptions)

All judges were once lawyers

Judges are really then just elevated Syds

So like granny syds?

 

[Keys]

So like granny syds?

More like Paris Hilton syds - bigger than your average syd

 

[Wayne Arnold]

So like granny syds?

More like going from Moderator to Super Moderator.

 

[Keys]

More like going from Moderator to Super Moderator.

Haha Ant_ he's talking about you

 

[QS]

Geez. That doesn't sound good.
Given the judge's comments it looks like anything but an immediate term of imprisonment would be like winning lotto.