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To the OP, player thread has all info that I've been able to find on the matter: www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/38-murray-newman-2012.893196/page-1

For those too lazy to click the link, here's a summary of the year so far

After the time trial:
The 19-year-old has shown improvement in the last two weeks, however, and Worsfold said the club had been "rapt with his attitude and how he's going".​
"He's got a big, heavy pre-season training workload that he's working through," Worsfold said on Friday.

"He's getting his volume in and getting his fitness up.

"He's got a lot of support around him.

"It's a tough time and he's got a lot to deal with.

"But he's not out there on his own, we're all supporting him and making sure we can help him through it all."​

@ 27/2 this year:
Still not full time training with the main group, "still got some things he has to adress in terms of being back in full time training with the whole group"
The club applied for him to be transfered from Swan Districts to East Perth (who will be the clubs reserves side from 2014) however this was rejected by the WAFL.
Woosh said the change of clubs would "suit Murray more" if it had have gone ahead, but he expects SD to support Murray in the way the club wants him supported.
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Then:

"That’s what Murray Newman has to do now. He’s been set some really strong targets from West Coast. He has to run a 7:05 2ker, which he should be able to do," Greg Harding said.
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Newman was beaten by coach John Worsfold in two 2km time trials during November, posting 8min 13sec. and 9min 36sec.
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Couple of weeks later:
"He ran it last Monday and missed it by about 12sec. and then ran it again on Friday and missed it by more," Harding said.
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Sometime in March:
West Coast's rising AFL star Murray Newman will plead not guilty to a charge of grievous bodily harm.
Newman, 18, was charged after an incident in November at the Library Nightclub in Perth's Northbridge entertainment district that allegedly left a man with facial injuries so severe he needed surgery.
In Perth Magistrates Court on Thursday, Newman's lawyer indicated he would plead not guilty to the charge.
He would also try to have the charge downgraded.
Newman was released on bail and will next appear in court in June.
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Then:
Played a couple of games and got an internal suspension for being late to training iirc.


June:
West Coast Eagles footballer Murray Newman has been committed to stand trial in the District Court over an alleged night club assault.
Newman is charged with causing grievous bodily harm to another man who it is alleged was punched in the face outside a Northbridge night club in November last year.
Newman's lawyer told the Perth Magistrates Court his client will be pleading not guilty.
Newman was released on bail until his next court appearance in September.
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July:
Bailed at 1/4 time in the wafl
Club statement:
The West Coast Eagles have today met with young forward Murray Newman and granted him compassionate leave.
Newman left Claremont Oval on Saturday at quarter-time and is dealing with personal issues associated with his pending court hearing into a grevious bodily harm charge.
The club is supporting Murray through this period and we ask that people respect his privacy as he deals with this matter.
The club will make no further comment on the issue.
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Last sighted on NicNats instagram
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TL/DR: not much footy, lot of bad stuff, change of clubs next year at WAFL level may help, and Woosh has faith.
 
Keyser Soze said:
Michael Walters hadn't shown much either before Lyon delivered some home truths and sent him away to sort himself out. Importantly, he left the door open and rewarded Walters once he'd shown the required commitment.

Fremantle now have a quality small forward and I think Newman has the ability to do similar but only time will tell if he has the desire
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Fair enough, but there are a lot of people on here who say he is going to be what we need etc, so i'm wondering where thier optimism has come from, because from what i saw in the games he played, he was ok, but he didnt stand out like Cuz or Judd etc (I know they are pretty special players). I hope those people who are saying he is something special are right, so i'm hoping he gets to play, i just havent seen enough of him yet to share thier optimism.
 

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I think the rookie list would be the way to go,looks like he might be a fair way off playing and we could use the extra space on the seniors list
 
Keyser Soze said:
Michael Walters hadn't shown much either before Lyon delivered some home truths and sent him away to sort himself out. Importantly, he left the door open and rewarded Walters once he'd shown the required commitment.

Fremantle now have a quality small forward and I think Newman has the ability to do similar but only time will tell if he has the desire
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Walters had shown quite a bit actually and probably thought that it was going to be easier than he thought. Subsequently he turned up for the new season in a less than satisfactory condition and was very quickly jolted into reality. That aside he didn't have GBH charge hanging over his head.
 
InTheWings said:
Give the teenager a break and let the club be the judge.
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Why should we? There are better intentioned teenagers running around in the WAFL ranks that would love to have had the opportunity this knobhead has had.
 
Was there ever a rule about being able to directly put players onto the rookie list without delisting them?

I'm not good at remembering rules. Got a feeling it was talked about but never implemented.
 
Jarlcorbz said:
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...ed-in-wild-night/story-e6frg12c-1225914222462

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/masten-belted-in-wild-night.752167/

The first link above is about Chris Masten getting into strife one night three years ago, and the second link above shows plenty of similar reactions I am seeing on this page. As you we all know we kept Masten despite his "ego", and now he's one of our best.
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To be clear, Masten wasn't in strife - he was the one who got belted. He certainly wasn't charged with GBH (or in any sort of trouble).
 
larrikin said:
To be clear, Masten wasn't in strife - he was the one who got belted. He certainly wasn't charged with GBH (or in any sort of trouble).
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That's true, but he had a reputation among supports of being arrogant and not worth the club's trouble. It's not the same as a GBH charge, but he was going through things, the club stuck by him, and now he's a very important part of the club's future success.
 
Ted38 said:
Why should we? There are better intentioned teenagers running around in the WAFL ranks that would love to have had the opportunity this knobhead has had.
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And there are current AFL players running around and contributing well for their clubs, who have dealt with similar issues to Murray.

He is still a young guy with personal and family issues of which, it is very evident from this thread, not many of us know the depth. It is not for us to be judge, jury and executioner when we don't know the facts. It certainly has no positive effects on his situation.

If he is kept on (which may be unlikely), gets his act together and plays well for us there are some detractors on here that will be saying what a good decision it was to keep him.

We just need to trust the club to make a good decision one way or the other. If they keep him on and he stuffs up again then at least nobody can say that the Eagles are a club without heart.
 
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Not sure if this phone picture will work but it's a newman sighting.
 

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We all make mistakes. I hope he can resolve the conflict to the alleged victims satisfaction.

However, given the ongoing court case this seams unlikely.

If he can make restitution to the aggrieved party, then with the clubs help get his career back on track or more importantly, work on whatever issues he has for his own well being, it would be a good result.
 
DivideandMultiply said:
If he can make restitution to the aggrieved party, then with the clubs help get his career back on track or more importantly, work on whatever issues he has for his own well being, it would be a good result.
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The issue here is it is not the other party bringing the charges, it is the state. Unless they decide to a) withdraw the charge b) reduce it, it will be up to Murray's defence to argue the case completely, or argue it down to common assault.
Restitution or contriteness will assist in mitigating a sentence (if found guilty of something) though.
 
QS said:
The issue here is it is not the other party bringing the charges, it is the state. Unless they decide to a) withdraw the charge b) reduce it, it will be up to Murray's defence to argue the case completely, or argue it down to common assault.
Restitution or contriteness will assist in mitigating a sentence (if found guilty of something) though.
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Just as well he didn't try and run away from the police, mandatory 6 months in WA yeah? That's some really ****ed up laws.
 
the harry said:
Just as well he didn't try and run away from the police, mandatory 6 months in WA yeah? That's some really ****** up laws.
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Not sure, without delving into the code, I don't think there is a provision for that specifically, although if they wanted to be hard about it could probably charge with pervert course of justice (very broad) under s 143. Escape lawful custody he would need to have been in actual custody.

Assault public officer is mandatory jail time though afaik.
 
QS said:
Not sure, without delving into the code, I don't think there is a provision for that specifically, although if they wanted to be hard about it could probably charge with pervert course of justice (very broad) under s 143. Escape lawful custody he would need to have been in actual custody.

Assault public officer is mandatory jail time though afaik.
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Should have been clearer, was meaning for pursuits. Crazy really, but off topic.

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/police-pursuit-law-passes-20121129-2aiaf.html
 

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Oh, yeah Road Traffic Act. Yeah, kneejerk reaction to a copper killing an innocent party due to a failure to end a pursuit :rolleyes: my issue with laws like that being enacted is it goes against 'the golden thread' from Woolmington.
Anyway, won't go on a rant here about my feelings toward those laws :)
 
QS said:
The issue here is it is not the other party bringing the charges, it is the state. Unless they decide to a) withdraw the charge b) reduce it, it will be up to Murray's defence to argue the case completely, or argue it down to common assault.
Restitution or contriteness will assist in mitigating a sentence (if found guilty of something) though.
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What is it with you lawyers...;)

My comment had nothing to do with the situation from a legal standpoint, instead a moral or ethical one. However, making good with the guy he allegedly assaulted may stop him from pursuing civil action.
 
DivideandMultiply said:
What is it with you lawyers...;)

My comment had nothing to do with the situation from a legal standpoint, instead a moral or ethical one. However, making good with the guy he allegedly assaulted may stop him from pursuing civil action.
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Haha, mate no lawyer yet.. just studied that :P.. comment was more pointing out that it may help down the line if he was guilty (and best explaining why :P). So there is merit from that vantage as well as from an ethical perspective :)
 

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