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CatmanForever said:
Lock in Harley as AA Captain now
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Hold your horses, that award is for his captaining abilities only.

First he needs to get on the ground for his ability, which I believe is not warranted against the other players picked in the squad.

McLeod got captain the other year of AA when he wasn't even captain of his own team.

Please note: This is not a troll (like some Harley based opinions may have been accused of in the *cough* past)

For Selwood to finish 6th is Amazing! What a star!!
 
CatFan79 said:
Hold your horses, that award is for his captaining abilities only.

First he needs to get on the ground for his ability, which I believe is not warranted against the other players picked in the squad.

McLeod got captain the other year of AA when he wasn't even captain of his own team.

Please note: This is not a troll (like some Harley based opinions may have been accused of in the *cough* past)

For Selwood to finish 6th is Amazing! What a star!!
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If his ability was not warranted for AA selection then why have they picked him in the final squad in the first place? He takes the most amount of contested marks in the backline than any other player. That alone makes him a great a backman. He is totally under-rated.
 
CatmanForever said:
If his ability was not warranted for AA selection then why have they picked him in the final squad in the first place?
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READ MY POST! As I said, Harley doesn't deserve a spot in the team over the others selected in the squad.

CatmanForever said:
He takes the most amount of contested marks in the backline than any other player. That alone makes him a great a backman. He is totally under-rated.
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There is no way he is underrated, he is very much rated by the media and this board. I haven't heard 1 person mention the fact (apart from Harley himself tonight) that he is very much out of form and struggling at the moment.

The marks in the back line is 1 stat. Other players in the AA squad have more influence on a game and are more valuable to their team than Harley.
 

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CatFan79 said:
READ MY POST! As I said, Harley doesn't deserve a spot in the team over the others selected in the squad.



There is no way he is underrated, he is very much rated by the media and this board. I haven't heard 1 person mention the fact (apart from Harley himself tonight) that he is very much out of form and struggling at the moment.

The marks in the back line is 1 stat. Other players in the AA squad have more influence on a game and are more valuable to their team than Harley.
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Defenders:

Nathan Bock, Adelaide. Never previously selected. 22 games in 2008. 324 kicks, 159 marks, 158 handballs, averaging 14.7 kicks, 7.2 marks, 7.2 handballs. Two Goals Five Behinds. 11 Clearances, 42 Inside 50m, 79 Rebound 50m.

Corey Enright, Geelong. Never previously selected. 22 games in 2008. 267 kicks, 118 marks, 250 handballs, averaging 12.1 kicks, 5.4 marks, 11.4 handballs. Six Goals Two Behinds. 39 Clearances, 41 Inside 50m, 64 Rebound 50m.

Sam Fisher, St Kilda. Never previously selected. 22 games in 2008. 303 kicks, 192 marks, 193 handballs, averaging 13.8 kicks, 8.7 marks, 8.8 handballs. Three Goals Two Behinds. 18 Clearances, 43 Inside 50m, 73 Rebound 50m.

Tom Harley, Geelong. Never previously selected. 22 games in 2008. 150 kicks, 117 marks, 184 handballs, averaging 6.8 kicks, 5.3 marks, 8.4 handballs. No Goals No Behinds. Four Clearances, 11 Inside 50m, 45 Rebound 50m.

Luke Hodge, Hawthorn. All Australian 2005. 17 games in 2008. 241 kicks, 90 marks, 155 handballs, averaging 14.2 kicks, 5.3 marks, 9.1 handballs. 19 Goals Eight Behinds. 58 Clearances, 73 Inside 50m, 38 Rebound 50m.

Max Hudghton, St Kilda. Never previously selected. 20 games in 2008. 101 kicks, 100 marks, 107 handballs, averaging 5.1 kicks, 5.0 marks, 5.4 handballs. No Goals No Behinds. One Clearance, Five Inside 50m, 39 Rebound 50m.

Luke McPharlin, Fremantle. Never previously selected. 20 games in 2008. 192 kicks, 142 marks, 105 handballs, averaging 9.6 kicks, 7.1 marks, 5.3 handballs. 21 Goals 14 Behinds. Three Clearances, 29 Inside 50m, 44 Rebound 50m.

Andrew Mackie, Geelong. Never previously selected. 18 games in 2008. 256 kicks, 128 marks, 150 handballs, averaging 14.2 kicks, 7.1 marks, 8.3 handballs. 11 Goals Seven Behinds. 11 Clearances, 46 Inside 50m, 46 Rebound 50m.

Darren Milburn, Geelong. All Australian 2007. 19 games in 2008. 204 kicks, 131 marks, 174 handballs, averaging 10.7 kicks, 6.9 marks, 9.2 handballs. Six Goals One Behind. Eight Clearances, 30 Inside 50m, 50 Rebound 50m.

Dale Morris, Western Bulldogs. Never previously selected. 22 games in 2008. 137 kicks, 102 marks, 143 handballs, averaging 6.2 kicks, 4.6 marks, 6.5 handballs. No Goals No Behinds. 11 Clearances, 11 Inside 50m, 36 Rebound 50m.

Daniel Pratt, North Melbourne. Never previously selected. 20 games in 2008. 257 kicks, 118 marks, 121 handballs, averaging 12.9 kicks, 5.9 marks, 6.1 handballs. Five Goals Five Behinds. 16 Clearances, 36 Inside 50m, 101 Rebound 50m.

Matthew Scarlett, Geelong. All Australian 2003, 2004, 2007. 19 games in 2008. 178 kicks, 63 marks, 145 handballs, averaging 9.4 kicks, 3.3 marks, 7.6 handballs. No Goals One Behind. Four Clearances, 22 Inside 50m, 57 Rebound 50m.



Harley will make it IMHO.

It will look something like this:

B: Harley - Scarlett - Mackie
HB: Hodge - Bock - Pratt/Enright

Who from that list do you suggest is better then Harley?
 
For the record:

Selwood 3rd in most couragous, Harold 5th in Best First Year player.
 
Jr your a star, great award to win. :thumbsu: Voted by peers, much better to win as a sign of respect form opposition players than the award thats voted for by umpires:D

Also great for Harley to be getting a lot of recognition in his latter years of his career, deserves everything he gets. If he makes the final cut of the AA then he HAS to be AA captain.

and well done to Joel Selwood, this kid is a freak, 6th in MVP voting and 3rd for the courageous award.

Now for a repeat of last year of 9 AA and Ablett or Jimmy to bring Charlie home (or both:D), and then THE BIG ONE!!!!
 

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CatmanForever said:
If his ability was not warranted for AA selection then why have they picked him in the final squad in the first place? He takes the most amount of contested marks in the backline than any other player. That alone makes him a great a backman. He is totally under-rated.
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Has been OK all season but not spectacular. Kind of seems Harls is getting AA squad selection for a good effort over the years. Mind you, I still think he is not a great chance of actual selection. Captain selection in AA can be unpredictable as someone else mentioned.
Harley was probably the only player on Sunday who get defeated consistently and defeated by his opponent. Thompson had a little go at him as Harley indicated last night. Lets hope he improves for the remaining 2 finals games.
 

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