NAB Challenge 2016

[kane249]

Kicks more goalzzzzzz

Jetta kicked more than twice as many goals in 2012, than Sinclair has kicked in his career

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Do you forget that the finals game we played against the Hawks at Subi last year that Priddis did not play, and the Eagles won well without him, so think players can step up when he is unable to play. Maybe Sheed is the one and don't think he played today - still coming back from injury?

Hutchings starred. Can be very good inside on a good day.

 

[avishka5]

Mayne has played 50 more games for less goals than Darling. Its amazing how fast people have gone off Darling in half a season. He was one of the most promising young forwards only a couple of years ago and people already want him on the scrap heap. He's only 23 ffs he'll be fine.

dont be silly, Eagles fans only have short term memory. I bet he was Saying trade gaff and most of our other mids 2 years ago.

 

[iLikeIt]

Bruest is better than Le Cras for me - these days, at least.

They are different types of players though. Regardless, they are clearly two of the best forwards in the AFL. Breust is crazy versatile but I'd say LeCras is more of a game winner when needed. Statically LeCras was ahead last year, which is somewhat surprising given Breust plays on the ball (in the centre) for a quarter worth of game time per game. I'm still not convinced LeCras should be lining up in the middle, he seems so much more dangerous coming from half forward.

 

[getgaff]

Jetta kicked more than twice as many goals in 2012, than Sinclair has kicked in his career

Maybe I should've made it clearer my post was heavily sarcastic. Just going off Sinclair's goal tonight for Sydney whereas Jetta has yet to slot one between the big sticks for us.

 

[getgaff]

Mate its preseason, what are you worried about. If we play like slop against the Lions in round 1 then its time to start worrying.

Not worried just would have preferred it if we slayed the Suns a bit more. On paper our team is stronger than the Suns by more than 3 points, next Sunday can't come quickly enough

 

[getgaff]

Carlton won the pre season in a spoon year. Lions won or made the gf recently. Enough said. The only whinging should be about injuries and haircuts until round 1

Neither worried nor whinging but the injuries to Jetta and Brown weren't what we wanted, particularly looking at Round 1 with a possible weaker midfield. Masten being out for a few weeks takes away one rubbish haircut thanks goodness

 

[iLikeIt]

Not worried just would have preferred it if we slayed the Suns a bit more. On paper our team is stronger than the Suns by more than 3 points, next Sunday can't come quickly enough

We did have 30 more inside 50s. We just rusty and possibly a little slack with the finishing. Conditions would have brought the scores closer together also. GC to their credit were good though - pity they keep getting hit with injuries.

 

[ep2018]

Hutchings starred. Can be very good inside on a good day.

Rewatching that game I feel a bit down knowing we never played like that again for the remainder of the finals. We should have cleaned up North and then made a game of the GF.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Rewatching that game I feel a bit down knowing we never played like that again for the remainder of the finals. We should have cleaned up North and then made a game of the GF.

Yeah. I told the mrs we were a very good chance to play in the GF in round 6 after we beat Port.
Hawks just too good and we weren't ready.

This year we can go one better, no doubt about it.

 

[frenchconnection]

Rewatching that game I feel a bit down knowing we never played like that again for the remainder of the finals. We should have cleaned up North and then made a game of the GF.

Think that is when the Eagles hit their peak and played the GF a couple of games early unfortunately. It was downhill from there, however think they did well to even make the GF as earlier in the year if somebody had told me that they would be in the GF would have told them you're dreaming.

 

[wraglesweb]

Mayne has played 50 more games for less goals than Darling. Its amazing how fast people have gone off Darling in half a season. He was one of the most promising young forwards only a couple of years ago and people already want him on the scrap heap. He's only 23 ffs he'll be fine.

Microwave him.....

 

[ziad]

We did have 30 more inside 50s. We just rusty and possibly a little slack with the finishing. Conditions would have brought the scores closer together also. GC to their credit were good though - pity they keep getting hit with injuries.

and kept rotations sub 90

no worries

 

[wraglesweb]

Think that is when the Eagles hit their peak and played the GF a couple of games early unfortunately. It was downhill from there, however think they did well to even make the GF as earlier in the year if somebody had told me that they would be in the GF would have told them you're dreaming.

You have to change They to WE...........Don't you know how much WE influence the Eagle's results here on BF....WE practically won Priddis a Brownlow !!!

 

[mattyc75]

its not about the goals. Neither lecras or hill are crumbers and both play taller than they are. Cripps is mostly a defensive forward. we need a genuine crumber like an eddie betts with serious x factor that can turn a game on its head. we kinda of went for josh hill for that reason but he isnt that player. An eddie betts type will perfectly complement the likes of jk, darlinbg gov and naitanui.

We've had our chance every draft,small forwards tend to be drafted mid to late and recently can impact straight away.
We keep trying to turn mids into forwards

Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk

 

[iLikeIt]

its not about the goals. Neither lecras or hill are crumbers and both play taller than they are. Cripps is mostly a defensive forward. we need a genuine crumber like an eddie betts with serious x factor that can turn a game on its head. we kinda of went for josh hill for that reason but he isnt that player. An eddie betts type will perfectly complement the likes of jk, darlinbg gov and naitanui.

I suspect every team would love a Betts, a Wingard or a Rioli as they'd complement any forward line I'm not sure I'd call them "crumbers" either as they take plenty of marks inside 50 either on the lead or contested. I think it's expected that every small forward these days should be able to take a mark, rove a pack, grab a ground ball, quick hands and quick snaps, apply defensive pressure, and even pinch hit in the middle if required. I think teams still using specialist "crumbers" are possibly wasting a spot on their list. Freo seem to have realised this recently and will use Walters and possibly Ballantyne through the middle as well this season. LeCras and Cripps will pinch hit in the middle more than last year - and I could even see Hill rotating through on a wing.

 

[Woobla Stainz]

Hill is fine if he can continue to have the output he had last year he is not a specialist crumber as he can mark like a mid sized forward but he also kicks those freak opportunistic goals, i think people forget how many goals he pulled out of his arse from nothing.

 

[getgaff]

We've had our chance every draft,small forwards tend to be drafted mid to late and recently can impact straight away.
We keep trying to turn mids into forwards

Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk

He probably wouldn't have performed the role as effectively as the likes of Rioli, Betts and Wingard do but this was where we had an opportunity to hold onto Murray Newman possibly as a genuine player to sit at the feet of the big men and crumb off them. Also bodes well for Karpany but I think he would need to change his game style accordingly.

I'm with iLikeIt but, Freo are a great example of a team that has realised that the small crumbing forward isn't a specific role in a team anymore. They are looking at guys like Walters and Ballantyne to push through the midfield rotations more. St. Kilda as well, they've drafted some smaller guys in previous years like Billings, Lonie, Sinclair and Templeton to name a few. Billings will be used more midfield during 2016, Lonie i think has the traits to be a Rioli type small forward, Sinclair in a similar boat to Billings except maybe more high HF than midfield and Templeton just needs to get over his injuries fitness and build form back in the VFL.

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

I suspect every team would love a Betts, a Wingard or a Rioli as they'd complement any forward line I'm not sure I'd call them "crumbers" either as they take plenty of marks inside 50 either on the lead or contested. I think it's expected that every small forward these days should be able to take a mark, rove a pack, grab a ground ball, quick hands and quick snaps, apply defensive pressure, and even pinch hit in the middle if required. I think teams still using specialist "crumbers" are possibly wasting a spot on their list. Freo seem to have realised this recently and will use Walters and possibly Ballantyne through the middle as well this season. LeCras and Cripps will pinch hit in the middle more than last year - and I could even see Hill rotating through on a wing.

Half the teams do have one...

Rioli
Garlett
Ballantyne/Walters
Wingard
Betts
Matera
Motlop
Greene

I'm sure there's some more I have missed

 

[avishka5]

We've had our chance every draft,small forwards tend to be drafted mid to late and recently can impact straight away.
We keep trying to turn mids into forwards

Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk

in recent years most of these kids have gone pretty early or havent made it to our second round.

I suspect every team would love a Betts, a Wingard or a Rioli as they'd complement any forward line I'm not sure I'd call them "crumbers" either as they take plenty of marks inside 50 either on the lead or contested. I think it's expected that every small forward these days should be able to take a mark, rove a pack, grab a ground ball, quick hands and quick snaps, apply defensive pressure, and even pinch hit in the middle if required. I think teams still using specialist "crumbers" are possibly wasting a spot on their list. Freo seem to have realised this recently and will use Walters and possibly Ballantyne through the middle as well this season. LeCras and Cripps will pinch hit in the middle more than last year - and I could even see Hill rotating through on a wing.

I dont disagree with your statement at all. Its not a specialty trait anymore however its good to have a player that excells at being a crumber. In todays game teams cant afford to really have a specialist crumber, nor a specialist small forward and all of the push into the midfield or play a high half forward role. All im just saying is that its good to have a small forward that crumber well and is an x factor in the forward line but can all so have an impact up the ground.

 

[avishka5]

Im not a fan of bennell but i did like what i saw of him in the nab cup. I wouldnt mind seeing him get a go early on. Maybe lecras replace masten on the wing and bennell play forward for the first few rounds.

 

[iLikeIt]

in recent years most of these kids have gone pretty early or havent made it to our second round.

I dont disagree with your statement at all. Its not a specialty trait anymore however its good to have a player that excells at being a crumber. In todays game teams cant afford to really have a specialist crumber, nor a specialist small forward and all of the push into the midfield or play a high half forward role. All im just saying is that its good to have a small forward that crumber well and is an x factor in the forward line but can all so have an impact up the ground.

Yeah we're on the same page. I was keen on Riolo in the draft for that same reason. But our forward line is probably our strongest area atm so not upset we went with mids instead. Not sure Bennell and Karps will make it. Hill and Cripps are opportunistic enough imo. As much as you say it's not about goals, if your forwards are all scoring plenty you are doing ok.

 

[kempy]

List if things I have learned from the NAB Challenge:

1.

 

[Woobla Stainz]

Was at the game and just watched the replay for a different perspective, love The Gov and Shep, Gaff standard, loved Nelsons attack and intensity.

Alot of people disappointed in Yeo and Dugg as they were a bit quite, Yeo actually played better than i thought didn't have as much impact as we like but thought he was pretty good in the contest went hard and was involved got his hands on the ball a lot with opposition hanging off him just needs to get a handball to a team mate.

Duggan not as silky as usual but loved his attack on the footy went in hard a few times, not far off piecing it together.

 

[mattyc75]

in recent years most of these kids have gone pretty early or havent made it to our second round.

I dont disagree with your statement at all. Its not a specialty trait anymore however its good to have a player that excells at being a crumber. In todays game teams cant afford to really have a specialist crumber, nor a specialist small forward and all of the push into the midfield or play a high half forward role. All im just saying is that its good to have a small forward that crumber well and is an x factor in the forward line but can all so have an impact up the ground.

I realize they went early and it's too early to say if the high picks used on some of them are justified
All I was saying that in recent years there has been a few small forwards taken later in the draft that have possibly outperformed the higher credentialed players and these were the guys we could have got
Instead we have picked mids with a view to turning them into forwards ala karpany,hams etc

Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk