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I'm taking your advice Max and I'm in the process of Downloading Scour.
I would say that the Film industry would not make the same mistake as the Music industry by making the web-site public. Since the music industry made Napster public, the amount of poeple on Napster has grown 20 fold.
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I would say that the Film industry would not make the same mistake as the Music industry by making the web-site public. Since the music industry made Napster public, the amount of poeple on Napster has grown 20 fold.
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Napster..Warez sites,Leech Ftp's you aint going to stop it..I work in IT and most IT pro's have piracy down to a fine art...I dont pay for music,games,movies or software..its all out there on the net you just have to know where to look.Making good code is hard..breaking it is easy.Napster is just one program out of many..it will self destruct and others will take its place.
My advice to Sony and others...dont waste time fighting it..exploit it yourself.
My advice to Sony and others...dont waste time fighting it..exploit it yourself.
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1.What is the quality of the movies like
Cinema movies are normally split in DivX, asf or avi files in that order of quality. As I said in an earlier post, movie encoding is pretty good so the quality is not great but watchable. New release movies orginally start out from VCD's made by Asian hackers I guess. Most pr0n/music videos/tv shows are mpg's or mov files. Good quality.
2.How long does it take to download
Depends on what connection you've got. On my Optarse cable off peak when the kiddies ain't leeching pr0n and mp3z can do 250mb an hour if I am leeching off another person with a fast connection. It's like Napster depends on what connection you and the host have. But it's plus is that you can resume later and if the host isn't online Scour searchs for the same file from another user and picks up from there.
3.How big is a average film
For a normal 90 minute or so film.
DivX quality - 600-650mb or so
asf quality - 500mb or so
avi quality - 300mb or so
MPG music videos around 50mb
Cinema movies are normally split in DivX, asf or avi files in that order of quality. As I said in an earlier post, movie encoding is pretty good so the quality is not great but watchable. New release movies orginally start out from VCD's made by Asian hackers I guess. Most pr0n/music videos/tv shows are mpg's or mov files. Good quality.
2.How long does it take to download
Depends on what connection you've got. On my Optarse cable off peak when the kiddies ain't leeching pr0n and mp3z can do 250mb an hour if I am leeching off another person with a fast connection. It's like Napster depends on what connection you and the host have. But it's plus is that you can resume later and if the host isn't online Scour searchs for the same file from another user and picks up from there.
3.How big is a average film
For a normal 90 minute or so film.
DivX quality - 600-650mb or so
asf quality - 500mb or so
avi quality - 300mb or so
MPG music videos around 50mb
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650 MB in size isn't too bad.
That means you can store all your data from a movie on to one CD and play it on your computer whenever you want.
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That means you can store all your data from a movie on to one CD and play it on your computer whenever you want.
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On my humble 56k modem - connected through iprimarse - I get 84Mb in 4 Hours but this is nowhere near fast enough for me to consider downloading movies:- Best i Can do Is hire DVD's then use DeCss - but thats another story
yep, same here MaxPower... i prefer using scour eXchange too!!
i've read that scour eXchange is facing some legal challenges too...
but, doesnt matter.. theres a steady stream of clones.... imesh, freenet, mynapster, napigator, gnute, gnutella, aimster.. blah...
i've used mynapster too.. not bad!
i've read that scour eXchange is facing some legal challenges too...
but, doesnt matter.. theres a steady stream of clones.... imesh, freenet, mynapster, napigator, gnute, gnutella, aimster.. blah...
i've used mynapster too.. not bad!
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Dons_r_tops, you got a very mistaken impression of me if you thought I'm the type of person who goes out and buys a lot of CDs. The fact is ... these days, being on a very low income, I tend to download music.
But the music I download tends to be music by unknown or obscure musicians who have willingly made their music available for free. As a result I've discovered some amazing music that I would have never got to hear otherwise ... genuinely "alternative" and genuinely "independent" music.
Much of this music is made by home-based computer musicians like myself, people who will probably never get a recording contract and will never be driving around in limousines and snorting cocaine.
As a person who is "silly enough to call himself an anarchist", (thanks for that, TigerTank, I love you too) I tend to see this as the future of music.
Like Blood Stained Angel points out ... music wants to be free. But the music of record company prostitutes will never be free because it is the product of bondage.
I'm sure Napster itself is as much a faceless corporation as the record companies it seeks to undermine. I think such people are all one of a kind.
And the forelock tugging metal-nosed sell-outs that they employ are right in bed with them.
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But the music I download tends to be music by unknown or obscure musicians who have willingly made their music available for free. As a result I've discovered some amazing music that I would have never got to hear otherwise ... genuinely "alternative" and genuinely "independent" music.
Much of this music is made by home-based computer musicians like myself, people who will probably never get a recording contract and will never be driving around in limousines and snorting cocaine.
As a person who is "silly enough to call himself an anarchist", (thanks for that, TigerTank, I love you too) I tend to see this as the future of music.
Like Blood Stained Angel points out ... music wants to be free. But the music of record company prostitutes will never be free because it is the product of bondage.
I'm sure Napster itself is as much a faceless corporation as the record companies it seeks to undermine. I think such people are all one of a kind.
And the forelock tugging metal-nosed sell-outs that they employ are right in bed with them.
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I work for an ISP and I get free fast internet access haha! Too bad the other people in the Napster community don't coz I have to rely on them for my downloads too.
One thing though about the comment 'You may never have to buy albums again'. Somebody has still got to be bothered buying an album and converting it to mp3 for you so if everyone didn't bother buying, Napster wouldn't exist.
One thing though about the comment 'You may never have to buy albums again'. Somebody has still got to be bothered buying an album and converting it to mp3 for you so if everyone didn't bother buying, Napster wouldn't exist.
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At the moment, Napster is better than Scour because there is 30 million people on Napster and only 90 000 on Scour.
That was that mistake that the music industry made. Ever since it was made public about their court cases, etc,. The amount of people using Napster has increased enormassly
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That was that mistake that the music industry made. Ever since it was made public about their court cases, etc,. The amount of people using Napster has increased enormassly
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Scour has around 1 to 1.5 million users and around 10% online at any one time.
I'm on Scour at the minute and there is 105,743 users online, 9,246,129 files shared and 32.06 Terrabytes of stuff.
It will grow when the word continues to spread.
Napster this time last year had less than a million and 30 million now.
I'm on Scour at the minute and there is 105,743 users online, 9,246,129 files shared and 32.06 Terrabytes of stuff.
It will grow when the word continues to spread.
Napster this time last year had less than a million and 30 million now.
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Napster is old school tech WCE2000.
Go get AUDIOGNOME - www.audiognome.com
It kicks Napsters behind majorly.
Let's you connect to all available Napster & Napster type servers at once.
For example I went into Napster and it had 1.7 million songs shared using AudioGnome it was 5.85 million songs shared.
May be a tad uglier looking interface but gives you more choice and for me better download speeds too.
Just remember to keep your AudioGnome and Napster username/password the same so AudioGnome can log into the Napster servers.
Go get AUDIOGNOME - www.audiognome.com
It kicks Napsters behind majorly.
Let's you connect to all available Napster & Napster type servers at once.
For example I went into Napster and it had 1.7 million songs shared using AudioGnome it was 5.85 million songs shared.
May be a tad uglier looking interface but gives you more choice and for me better download speeds too.
Just remember to keep your AudioGnome and Napster username/password the same so AudioGnome can log into the Napster servers.
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I think it's great for the wierd or novelty songs you wouldn't go out and buy, but want to hear anyway. And the older stuff too. I've got a stack of 60's, 70's and 80's stuff now, but it's a real mixture that you wouldn't be able to buy without buying heaps of CDs. So I don't feel bad using it at all, in fact I just bought a CD of someone I'd accidentally downloaded from Napster and found I actually liked....
Make that 291.....
I think it's great for the wierd or novelty songs you wouldn't go out and buy, but want to hear anyway. And the older stuff too. I've got a stack of 60's, 70's and 80's stuff now, but it's a real mixture that you wouldn't be able to buy without buying heaps of CDs. So I don't feel bad using it at all, in fact I just bought a CD of someone I'd accidentally downloaded from Napster and found I actually liked....
Make that 291.....
I luv...both napster and scour!!
I downloaded Chicken Run today... I'm so glad I beat the cinemas by abaout a month. Brilliant!!!
I downloaded Chicken Run today... I'm so glad I beat the cinemas by abaout a month. Brilliant!!!
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sabre_ac you said " not everyone cannot afford a mp3 player so people are going to still buy cd's and tapes"
Here is a suggestion, if you have a burner, why not convert your favorite downloaded mp3 files back to .wav files using winamp or a similar program using the plugin and then you have a cd that you can play in the car, home etc. That way you can make your own cd's in a .wav format and not have to worry about the expense of buying a mp3 player. Just a thought.
Here is a suggestion, if you have a burner, why not convert your favorite downloaded mp3 files back to .wav files using winamp or a similar program using the plugin and then you have a cd that you can play in the car, home etc. That way you can make your own cd's in a .wav format and not have to worry about the expense of buying a mp3 player. Just a thought.
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WinAmp is able to play mp3's on your computer and you don't need to convert MP3's to Wav files so you can burn them.
This is the simple process is your starting from scratch (bearing in mind you need to have a CD burner)
1. Go to napster.com and download Napster.
2. Download whatever songs you want to burn on to a CD.
3. Open your CD Burning Software and place those songs in the order you want to Burn them.
4. Burn the CD.
Its very simple.
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This is the simple process is your starting from scratch (bearing in mind you need to have a CD burner)
1. Go to napster.com and download Napster.
2. Download whatever songs you want to burn on to a CD.
3. Open your CD Burning Software and place those songs in the order you want to Burn them.
4. Burn the CD.
Its very simple.
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You can however if you convert your mp3's into wav files then you can play a burnt CD of wav files on a normal audio CD player while a burnt CD of mp3 files can only be played on a computer.
Catch being converted wav files take up a shitload of space and you can get only 74 minutes of audio while you can burn 650mb's of mp3's (100 or so more mp3's depending on size)
You can be totally naughty and download all the mp3's off one album from Napster convert them to wav's and burn them onto CD. Download and print off the original covers and you've got a CD for less than $2. Not that I would do that (much).
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Catch being converted wav files take up a shitload of space and you can get only 74 minutes of audio while you can burn 650mb's of mp3's (100 or so more mp3's depending on size)
You can be totally naughty and download all the mp3's off one album from Napster convert them to wav's and burn them onto CD. Download and print off the original covers and you've got a CD for less than $2. Not that I would do that (much).
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WCE2000, I'm not sure you understood my message. If you can't afford a portable MP3 player (suggested by sabre_ac) and you still want to enjoy the music that you have downloaded AWAY from your PC then this is an alternative to
a) buying the CD &
b) buying an expensive MP3 player.
Yes it is true that it expands the file back out to around 45 50 meg per file but you can still fit 17-18 songs comfortably on a 74min cd.
It also assumes that you have a cd burner. I do and it is very useful for this and also backing up files. You can pick one up at a swap meet for around $260 (including SCSI card) which is cheaper than most MP3 players.
a) buying the CD &
b) buying an expensive MP3 player.
Yes it is true that it expands the file back out to around 45 50 meg per file but you can still fit 17-18 songs comfortably on a 74min cd.
It also assumes that you have a cd burner. I do and it is very useful for this and also backing up files. You can pick one up at a swap meet for around $260 (including SCSI card) which is cheaper than most MP3 players.
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for the most inexpensive method...
i dont have a cdplayer in the car... so, i just hook up the pc with my hi-fi system and record mp3's to cassette tape! may sound shite to some golen earred audiophiles, but in my shitty car sound system, its comparable to listening to radio...
for portable, i use the same method but record to minidisc! mp3 and minidisc... for me, yes, napster/scour.. the killer applications..
i dont have a cdplayer in the car... so, i just hook up the pc with my hi-fi system and record mp3's to cassette tape! may sound shite to some golen earred audiophiles, but in my shitty car sound system, its comparable to listening to radio...
for portable, i use the same method but record to minidisc! mp3 and minidisc... for me, yes, napster/scour.. the killer applications..
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Oh_My_HAT:
Thats what i said.
You don't need an MP-3 Player, its very simple to burn songs on to a CD, using Napster.
MaxPower:
I think you've got it all totally wrong.
I downloaded all those 36 song which i mentioned in another song. I haven't converted them to an wav file and i just burned them on to a CD and they can be played on any CD player, not just computer CD players.
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Thats what i said.
You don't need an MP-3 Player, its very simple to burn songs on to a CD, using Napster.
MaxPower:
I think you've got it all totally wrong.
I downloaded all those 36 song which i mentioned in another song. I haven't converted them to an wav file and i just burned them on to a CD and they can be played on any CD player, not just computer CD players.
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WCE2000..Max knows his stuff..depends on your burning software..most progs you need to convert from mp3 to wav..others like Nero
you dont..get yourself a Plextor burner and help yourself to $2 CD albums..
you dont..get yourself a Plextor burner and help yourself to $2 CD albums..
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Can't see how you are playing mp3's on normal CD players WCE? Defies all technical logic.
CDR's can only hold 74 minutes of audio or 645 MB of data (or 80min/700MB CD's). MP3's are data files not audio files like WAV's. In fact you can hold 746MB's of WAV files on a single 74 min CDR but trying to explain that gets too technical for this time of night.
Whatever something don't sound right imho, not that I really care
Oh if anyone is interested PriceLine around the country are selling cheap BASF CDR's next week only for $12.99 a box of 10. Which is $2 off the normal price. A good bargain. Me I prefer Kodak Ultima's for $14.95 a box at JB Hi-Fi in Camberwell but the BASF's are OK to burn data and mp3's.
CDR's can only hold 74 minutes of audio or 645 MB of data (or 80min/700MB CD's). MP3's are data files not audio files like WAV's. In fact you can hold 746MB's of WAV files on a single 74 min CDR but trying to explain that gets too technical for this time of night.
Whatever something don't sound right imho, not that I really care
Oh if anyone is interested PriceLine around the country are selling cheap BASF CDR's next week only for $12.99 a box of 10. Which is $2 off the normal price. A good bargain. Me I prefer Kodak Ultima's for $14.95 a box at JB Hi-Fi in Camberwell but the BASF's are OK to burn data and mp3's.
Before I start- I am computer illiterate
Since this seems to have become a technical thread (sort of), can Max Power or anyone with a fair bit of knowledge about this recommend a Cd burner which is fairly fast but not too expensive.... and I need a bigger hard drive as well, should I just get an upgrade or just go all out and buy a whole new computer?
Thanks.
Since this seems to have become a technical thread (sort of), can Max Power or anyone with a fair bit of knowledge about this recommend a Cd burner which is fairly fast but not too expensive.... and I need a bigger hard drive as well, should I just get an upgrade or just go all out and buy a whole new computer?
Thanks.
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As for CD Writers go visit this page Westy
http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/
Depends on what you want to do with it - if you want to burn like crazy you need a decent one, a el cheapo model will burn itself out in no time. I've got a Sony 32/8/4 does the job, can get it under $300 if you shop around. Stay with from the names you know.
Hard Drives are dirt cheap at the moment, picked up a new one myself not long ago, make sure you buy a 7200 not a 5400 may cost a little extra but it's worth it for the extra speed. Can get a 30gig for $325 or so, 20 gig $50 less. A Seagate Barracuda would be my recommendation as that's what I bought.
As for a new box - don't know how much grunt your current box has and what you use it for. If you just surf the net, word process and play the odd game or two, I've got a year and a bit old Pentium 500 which still does the job with ease.
http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/
Depends on what you want to do with it - if you want to burn like crazy you need a decent one, a el cheapo model will burn itself out in no time. I've got a Sony 32/8/4 does the job, can get it under $300 if you shop around. Stay with from the names you know.
Hard Drives are dirt cheap at the moment, picked up a new one myself not long ago, make sure you buy a 7200 not a 5400 may cost a little extra but it's worth it for the extra speed. Can get a 30gig for $325 or so, 20 gig $50 less. A Seagate Barracuda would be my recommendation as that's what I bought.
As for a new box - don't know how much grunt your current box has and what you use it for. If you just surf the net, word process and play the odd game or two, I've got a year and a bit old Pentium 500 which still does the job with ease.