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Sorry!
This is it here.
"IT HAS been a teary weekend in football. On both sides of the continent emotions flowed like a mountain stream in spring as we farewelled players across the spectrum.
Few sports fans could have failed to be moved by the warmth and sincerity of the football fraternity's final tribute to St Kilda's ageless, humble champion Robert Harvey at Telstra Dome on Sunday.
A few hours later at Subiaco, Michael Braun, a player who came nowhere near breathing the same rarefied air as Harvey, received his due from an appreciative crowd for the 12 seasons he spent as a brave, honest and effective servant of West Coast.
Amid these poignant moments, you may have missed another significant farewell announcement at the weekend. But this time, for me, the reaction could not have been more different.
When Sydney Swans coach Paul Roos declared that the team he moulded from scrappers to premiers had reached the end of the road, I could not shed a tear. In fact, I whispered "good riddance" when I heard the news.
Perhaps only Sydney supporters who valued, above all else, the 2005 premiership - the club's first in 72 years - could mourn the passing of this team that made it its weekly ambition to strangle the life out of the game.
The Swans played with a remorseless devotion to a whole range of cynical defensive tricks, and were lauded for their pluck, courage and unyielding adherence to team objectives.
But the end result was always an unsightly, ground-based scrap all too reminiscent of rugby league at its worst.
They cared nothing for the need to display the exhilarating elements of our game in a city that still needs to be convinced that Australian rules is a worthy alternative to rugby league.
Their theory was that anyone will follow a winner, so the manner in which they achieved a victory was irrelevant. But not all of us are so content to see so much of the game's inherent beauty sacrificed in the name of four points.
The natural outcome of this school of thought is a game that retains little of the originality that has always separated it from other more rigid codes. Indeed, the things that make us proudly call it the best game in the world.
Enough of these elements have been lost, or modified, as the game falls victim to cynical manipulation from the coach's box. If this style had become the benchmark, as it threatened to do when the Swans made successive Grand Finals in 2005-06, the game might have had a serious long-term problem.
Around the time this Sydney team was at the peak of its powers, anger and frustration prompted serious debate about radical changes to the game.
There was talk about marking no-go areas on the ground to prevent entire teams flooding back into defence. This was disturbing stuff for a game that has always revelled in a relative lack of inhibition.
Even AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou made a pointed public reference to the Sydney style of play three years ago, clearly hoping to influence the coaching staff to change its ways.
The club took umbrage, as it did every time this accusation was made, declaring that our eyes were deceiving us and intimating there was a conspiracy afoot to get the Swans.
Of course, the Swans' legacy was to be so good at what they did that other teams had to follow suit.
Thus, for a while, we saw Sydney clones pop up everywhere, all competing to throw a blanket of negativity over the game.
Calm heads told us to be patient; that the ugly Swans phase would pass like a kidney stone through the system, producing a fair bit of short-term pain but no long-term damage.
Eventually, the game would be rescued by a team with so much talent that it could not be harnessed by these tactics.
They were right. Sydney is old and in decline and a rampant Geelong has become the game's saviour."
This is it here.
"IT HAS been a teary weekend in football. On both sides of the continent emotions flowed like a mountain stream in spring as we farewelled players across the spectrum.
Few sports fans could have failed to be moved by the warmth and sincerity of the football fraternity's final tribute to St Kilda's ageless, humble champion Robert Harvey at Telstra Dome on Sunday.
A few hours later at Subiaco, Michael Braun, a player who came nowhere near breathing the same rarefied air as Harvey, received his due from an appreciative crowd for the 12 seasons he spent as a brave, honest and effective servant of West Coast.
Amid these poignant moments, you may have missed another significant farewell announcement at the weekend. But this time, for me, the reaction could not have been more different.
When Sydney Swans coach Paul Roos declared that the team he moulded from scrappers to premiers had reached the end of the road, I could not shed a tear. In fact, I whispered "good riddance" when I heard the news.
Perhaps only Sydney supporters who valued, above all else, the 2005 premiership - the club's first in 72 years - could mourn the passing of this team that made it its weekly ambition to strangle the life out of the game.
The Swans played with a remorseless devotion to a whole range of cynical defensive tricks, and were lauded for their pluck, courage and unyielding adherence to team objectives.
But the end result was always an unsightly, ground-based scrap all too reminiscent of rugby league at its worst.
They cared nothing for the need to display the exhilarating elements of our game in a city that still needs to be convinced that Australian rules is a worthy alternative to rugby league.
Their theory was that anyone will follow a winner, so the manner in which they achieved a victory was irrelevant. But not all of us are so content to see so much of the game's inherent beauty sacrificed in the name of four points.
The natural outcome of this school of thought is a game that retains little of the originality that has always separated it from other more rigid codes. Indeed, the things that make us proudly call it the best game in the world.
Enough of these elements have been lost, or modified, as the game falls victim to cynical manipulation from the coach's box. If this style had become the benchmark, as it threatened to do when the Swans made successive Grand Finals in 2005-06, the game might have had a serious long-term problem.
Around the time this Sydney team was at the peak of its powers, anger and frustration prompted serious debate about radical changes to the game.
There was talk about marking no-go areas on the ground to prevent entire teams flooding back into defence. This was disturbing stuff for a game that has always revelled in a relative lack of inhibition.
Even AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou made a pointed public reference to the Sydney style of play three years ago, clearly hoping to influence the coaching staff to change its ways.
The club took umbrage, as it did every time this accusation was made, declaring that our eyes were deceiving us and intimating there was a conspiracy afoot to get the Swans.
Of course, the Swans' legacy was to be so good at what they did that other teams had to follow suit.
Thus, for a while, we saw Sydney clones pop up everywhere, all competing to throw a blanket of negativity over the game.
Calm heads told us to be patient; that the ugly Swans phase would pass like a kidney stone through the system, producing a fair bit of short-term pain but no long-term damage.
Eventually, the game would be rescued by a team with so much talent that it could not be harnessed by these tactics.
They were right. Sydney is old and in decline and a rampant Geelong has become the game's saviour."
kira
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w***er!!! 
- we didn't play the most attractive game, but we played the hardest game, with the most integrity for the jumper
- and you can't blame us, roo's developed our style out of neccesity to maximise the list... it's not the clubs fault, that others chose to follow suit
- but to say all this rubbish at our death bed, after years of success... what a tosser!
'good riddance' from trevor grant
well a 'fu' from the sydney swans
- we didn't play the most attractive game, but we played the hardest game, with the most integrity for the jumper
- and you can't blame us, roo's developed our style out of neccesity to maximise the list... it's not the clubs fault, that others chose to follow suit
- but to say all this rubbish at our death bed, after years of success... what a tosser!
'good riddance' from trevor grant
well a 'fu' from the sydney swans
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What's the difference between us being successful while playing "boring, negative" football and being unsuccessful at it? We're still going to be on the TV Trevor and we're still going to completely f*** at least one game for you every week. 
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What an absolute C*ckhead Trevor Grant is......
Of course Sydney is the only team that floods and crowds the ground around the ball at the same time. Did you know that it was the Swans fault the cancer exists and babies die from SIDS, oh also global warming and the de-forrestation of the Amazon river......
Is there anything that has been left out???????
Trevor Grant
Of course Sydney is the only team that floods and crowds the ground around the ball at the same time. Did you know that it was the Swans fault the cancer exists and babies die from SIDS, oh also global warming and the de-forrestation of the Amazon river......
Is there anything that has been left out???????
Trevor Grant
What a ****ing tosser. I really don't get how people can hold something against the Swans for doing the best they could with their list. AFL is a competitive sport. Teams are MEANT to do what they can to win. He can go watch wrestling if all he cares about is the spectacle.
ROFL
Cheeer up!
Mr Grunt’s recycled junk is not worth the scrap of toilet paper he finger painted & scrawled his brown skid marks on!
But for my own fun I composed this rant , maybe some others might get a laugh too?
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Dear Mr Trevor Grunt
I am writing to you thank you very much for your comedy opinion piece in todays news rag! It was most enlightening and enjoyable!
Why is it “comedy” do you ponder? As your battered self esteem is pumped up slightly considering you might, have a yet to be discovered hidden talent?!
Indeed, this letter is in an attempt to help boost your deflated ego as you dodge through the backblocks to your humpy shack , fretting and worrying maybe praying that given you are bereft of new ideas or genuine football knowledge,that maybe your editor will accept your re hashed old "overdone to death" popularist junk gutter opinion piece, masquerading as journalism in the slowest news day of the sporting week!
I suggest as you roll past the "well to do suburbs", instead of bitterly hot red faced shaking fists at all the successful folk, you know the ones that got successful because they are clever and used life’s rules to their advantage without whinging!
Here is thought, why don’t for a more interesting article conduct a survey of St Kilda, Western Bulldog or Melbourne or Richmond fans (goodness knows you probably could afford the airline ticket to Fremantle) and ask them would they be happy with their team winning a long awaited premiership and a decade at the top of the AFL ladder if it meant playing somewhat ugly football?
You might also educate yourself by asking how many rate Paul Roos as an elite AFL coach!?
Lets actually delve shallowly into the irony!!! of your slapstick comments.
To bring up Robert Harvey! indeed all fair minded footy fans would appreciate a glorious career! But equally would feel sad that the champion is unlikely to taste the ultimate desire of premiership success despite his club recruiting a ex Swans coach to imitate the Sydney style mould some hacks , to try and achieve that very same goal!
To bring up Michael Braun!, who fortunately was included in the 2006 Grand Final winning WCE team when Sydney missed out by one point on going back to back premiers with as you put it “scrappers”. Unfortunately played with a club full of pretty boy’s with the glamour footy style saw them plummet to the bottom soon after, due to the lack of the type of discipline brought about in part by Sydney Swans committed style
In trying to be educational and positive, may I humbly suggest to you that the quality sports journalist’s that perhaps you had hopes of becoming, try to offer a balanced opinion piece!
I wonder if it has ever entered your vacant head that instead of gloating at Sydneys considerable drop off in form you might also present the fact that dual brownlow "rugby style" champions like Adam Goodes has continued to busting his gut for the team whilst playing injured?
Or indeed be able to find some praise for the dedication and commitment shown by Nick Malceski for undertaking risky surgery in intense proud desire to represent the “ugly” Sydney football team.
Or maybe you might consider the intense joy all South Melbourne / Sydney Swans fans and many other fairminded football fans gained from seeing a football team “struggling” against all odds to deliver the ultimate premiership reward.
Or maybe you might contemplate whether indeed Mr Paul Roos innovation necessitated the AFL and grumpy, but sorry arsed, Chief Andy Demetriou to get their finger out and address the existing rules and interpretations, which appear to have been modified posthumously in an attempt to thwart predominately the success of Sydney Swans!?
The absolute ignorance you display about anything football is hilarious!!!. As you gloat at the end of the Sydney “kidney stone phase” I wonder whether this might turn on any lights in your dark consciousness.
Paul Roos is has not yet resigned! Sydney have more low order draft recruits on which to base a new team version. Are you absolutely sure that with a tweak he could not again build a side on a variation of a game plan that the ignorant might find to their horror is distasteful because it brings Sydney success and to take them back to the top of the pile?
Do you really think if Paul Roos was available, despite his record of “ugly” innovative ideas that any AFL club in search for a quality coach would not be interested in seeking his services? I laugh again as, doubt no Swan fans indeed most who know something about football, would need a millisecond to answer that last question, but YOU take your time go ahead ponder for a while, doing some research would help you too!
The best of your jokes is again on you Mr Grunt! You see to borrow the expression used by another legendary revered AFL coach Malcom Blight I for one and I suspect most (but can’t and won’t speak for them) “don’t give a rats toss bag” what you or other club fans think about Sydney’s long enduring proven methods of success.
You see you might have heard but not understood the sages old saying which goes “Winners are grinners and losers can please themselves”! Let me explain for you , clearly that endorses your perfectly entitled right to please yourself !
I suspect other Swans fans might have sent you a nasty rude letter perhaps even said something like “Go and get well and truly fcuked!” But I am a kind soul and realize with your miserable negative outlook on life and things in general, there would be absolutely no chance in your hellish existence for that most pleasant event to happen!
As this letter arrives on your trashy, scummy ,backroom desk I have no doubt you will read it and for sure you would not be used to getting any rare polite fan mail!
However I have also posted it on BigFooty forum as I feel it highly likely that a man battling for ideas would scour such sites looking for junk material so you can make ends meet, and hope that some naïve posters will boost you deflated miserable ego, by also displaying sheepish qualities, follow the mob, and then might actually agree with you?
Trevor, I enclose for your education a DVD a few of Sydney Swans football team highlights this decade 2000-2008. Please seek out someone actually involved in the modern AFL game with knowledge (perhaps from your saviors Geelong FC) and ask them to view these “exhilarating” passages of play and see if they can explain to you whether it is as you claim indeed any evidence of Sydney “strangling the life out of the game”!?
Trevor, AGAIN, thank you for the comedy if anyone thought your article was intended to be anything more than a clown acting the fool for some cheap laughs, in hope of gaining someones respect, or actually thought you were in anyway knowledgeable or serious they, unlike myself, might be upset!.
Trusting the psychologist can help sort out the mess in your head soon!
With regards
Corpuscles
Cheeer up!Mr Grunt’s recycled junk is not worth the scrap of toilet paper he finger painted & scrawled his brown skid marks on!
But for my own fun I composed this rant , maybe some others might get a laugh too?
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Dear Mr Trevor Grunt
I am writing to you thank you very much for your comedy opinion piece in todays news rag! It was most enlightening and enjoyable!
Why is it “comedy” do you ponder? As your battered self esteem is pumped up slightly considering you might, have a yet to be discovered hidden talent?!
Indeed, this letter is in an attempt to help boost your deflated ego as you dodge through the backblocks to your humpy shack , fretting and worrying maybe praying that given you are bereft of new ideas or genuine football knowledge,that maybe your editor will accept your re hashed old "overdone to death" popularist junk gutter opinion piece, masquerading as journalism in the slowest news day of the sporting week!
I suggest as you roll past the "well to do suburbs", instead of bitterly hot red faced shaking fists at all the successful folk, you know the ones that got successful because they are clever and used life’s rules to their advantage without whinging!
Here is thought, why don’t for a more interesting article conduct a survey of St Kilda, Western Bulldog or Melbourne or Richmond fans (goodness knows you probably could afford the airline ticket to Fremantle) and ask them would they be happy with their team winning a long awaited premiership and a decade at the top of the AFL ladder if it meant playing somewhat ugly football?
You might also educate yourself by asking how many rate Paul Roos as an elite AFL coach!?
Lets actually delve shallowly into the irony!!! of your slapstick comments.
To bring up Robert Harvey! indeed all fair minded footy fans would appreciate a glorious career! But equally would feel sad that the champion is unlikely to taste the ultimate desire of premiership success despite his club recruiting a ex Swans coach to imitate the Sydney style mould some hacks , to try and achieve that very same goal!
To bring up Michael Braun!, who fortunately was included in the 2006 Grand Final winning WCE team when Sydney missed out by one point on going back to back premiers with as you put it “scrappers”. Unfortunately played with a club full of pretty boy’s with the glamour footy style saw them plummet to the bottom soon after, due to the lack of the type of discipline brought about in part by Sydney Swans committed style
In trying to be educational and positive, may I humbly suggest to you that the quality sports journalist’s that perhaps you had hopes of becoming, try to offer a balanced opinion piece!
I wonder if it has ever entered your vacant head that instead of gloating at Sydneys considerable drop off in form you might also present the fact that dual brownlow "rugby style" champions like Adam Goodes has continued to busting his gut for the team whilst playing injured?
Or indeed be able to find some praise for the dedication and commitment shown by Nick Malceski for undertaking risky surgery in intense proud desire to represent the “ugly” Sydney football team.
Or maybe you might consider the intense joy all South Melbourne / Sydney Swans fans and many other fairminded football fans gained from seeing a football team “struggling” against all odds to deliver the ultimate premiership reward.
Or maybe you might contemplate whether indeed Mr Paul Roos innovation necessitated the AFL and grumpy, but sorry arsed, Chief Andy Demetriou to get their finger out and address the existing rules and interpretations, which appear to have been modified posthumously in an attempt to thwart predominately the success of Sydney Swans!?
The absolute ignorance you display about anything football is hilarious!!!. As you gloat at the end of the Sydney “kidney stone phase” I wonder whether this might turn on any lights in your dark consciousness.
Paul Roos is has not yet resigned! Sydney have more low order draft recruits on which to base a new team version. Are you absolutely sure that with a tweak he could not again build a side on a variation of a game plan that the ignorant might find to their horror is distasteful because it brings Sydney success and to take them back to the top of the pile?
Do you really think if Paul Roos was available, despite his record of “ugly” innovative ideas that any AFL club in search for a quality coach would not be interested in seeking his services? I laugh again as, doubt no Swan fans indeed most who know something about football, would need a millisecond to answer that last question, but YOU take your time go ahead ponder for a while, doing some research would help you too!
The best of your jokes is again on you Mr Grunt! You see to borrow the expression used by another legendary revered AFL coach Malcom Blight I for one and I suspect most (but can’t and won’t speak for them) “don’t give a rats toss bag” what you or other club fans think about Sydney’s long enduring proven methods of success.
You see you might have heard but not understood the sages old saying which goes “Winners are grinners and losers can please themselves”! Let me explain for you , clearly that endorses your perfectly entitled right to please yourself !
I suspect other Swans fans might have sent you a nasty rude letter perhaps even said something like “Go and get well and truly fcuked!” But I am a kind soul and realize with your miserable negative outlook on life and things in general, there would be absolutely no chance in your hellish existence for that most pleasant event to happen!
As this letter arrives on your trashy, scummy ,backroom desk I have no doubt you will read it and for sure you would not be used to getting any rare polite fan mail!
However I have also posted it on BigFooty forum as I feel it highly likely that a man battling for ideas would scour such sites looking for junk material so you can make ends meet, and hope that some naïve posters will boost you deflated miserable ego, by also displaying sheepish qualities, follow the mob, and then might actually agree with you?
Trevor, I enclose for your education a DVD a few of Sydney Swans football team highlights this decade 2000-2008. Please seek out someone actually involved in the modern AFL game with knowledge (perhaps from your saviors Geelong FC) and ask them to view these “exhilarating” passages of play and see if they can explain to you whether it is as you claim indeed any evidence of Sydney “strangling the life out of the game”!?
Trevor, AGAIN, thank you for the comedy if anyone thought your article was intended to be anything more than a clown acting the fool for some cheap laughs, in hope of gaining someones respect, or actually thought you were in anyway knowledgeable or serious they, unlike myself
, might be upset!.Trusting the psychologist can help sort out the mess in your head soon!
With regards
Corpuscles
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Ohh my God Corpuscles!
You have just written the GREATEST post I have ever read on Bigfooty!
That is an absolute masterpiece!
That would make ANY...........I repeat...........any Swans fan, that has been feeling a little dejected of late, stand with their heads up high.
Well done mate for taking the time out to seriously cheer us Swans supporters up whilst we are under this rediculous barrage from so called 'AFL experts'!
I'm sure this twit's article will make it's way to the players. Can you imagine how they might react to it.
If it's fired us supporters up, imagine what the players themselves must be feeling.
Roosy might rest a few of his warriors this week but God help the team that we play in the first week of the finals (please let it be Collingwood at the "G"). They are going to be one real stiff team to come up against a pissed off Bloods outfit ready to lift for one more shot.
Cheers Corpuscles!!
You have just written the GREATEST post I have ever read on Bigfooty!
That is an absolute masterpiece!
That would make ANY...........I repeat...........any Swans fan, that has been feeling a little dejected of late, stand with their heads up high.
Well done mate for taking the time out to seriously cheer us Swans supporters up whilst we are under this rediculous barrage from so called 'AFL experts'!
I'm sure this twit's article will make it's way to the players. Can you imagine how they might react to it.
If it's fired us supporters up, imagine what the players themselves must be feeling.
Roosy might rest a few of his warriors this week but God help the team that we play in the first week of the finals (please let it be Collingwood at the "G"). They are going to be one real stiff team to come up against a pissed off Bloods outfit ready to lift for one more shot.
Cheers Corpuscles!!
carsoutback
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It's actually a nicely written piece of work,. I enjoyed reading it, it made me laugh and I certainly appreciate his point of view.
But...ermmmmmm....Premiers 2005. First for 72 years. Thanks.
But...ermmmmmm....Premiers 2005. First for 72 years. Thanks.
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ROFL
Mr Grunt’s recycled junk is not worth the scrap of toilet paper he finger painted & scrawled his brown skid marks on!
But for my own fun I composed this rant , maybe some others might get a laugh too?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Mr Trevor Grunt
I am writing to you thank you very much for your comedy opinion piece in todays news rag! It was most enlightening and enjoyable!
Why is it “comedy” do you ponder? As your battered self esteem is pumped up slightly considering you might, have a yet to be discovered hidden talent?!
Indeed, this letter is in an attempt to help boost your deflated ego as you dodge through the backblocks to your humpy shack , fretting and worrying maybe praying that given you are bereft of new ideas or genuine football knowledge,that maybe your editor will accept your re hashed old "overdone to death" popularist junk gutter opinion piece, masquerading as journalism in the slowest news day of the sporting week!
I suggest as you roll past the "well to do suburbs", instead of bitterly hot red faced shaking fists at all the successful folk, you know the ones that got successful because they are clever and used life’s rules to their advantage without whinging!
Here is thought, why don’t for a more interesting article conduct a survey of St Kilda, Western Bulldog or Melbourne or Richmond fans (goodness knows you probably could afford the airline ticket to Fremantle) and ask them would they be happy with their team winning a long awaited premiership and a decade at the top of the AFL ladder if it meant playing somewhat ugly football?
You might also educate yourself by asking how many rate Paul Roos as an elite AFL coach!?
Lets actually delve shallowly into the irony!!! of your slapstick comments.
To bring up Robert Harvey! indeed all fair minded footy fans would appreciate a glorious career! But equally would feel sad that the champion is unlikely to taste the ultimate desire of premiership success despite his club recruiting a ex Swans coach to imitate the Sydney style mould some hacks , to try and achieve that very same goal!
To bring up Michael Braun!, who fortunately was included in the 2006 Grand Final winning WCE team when Sydney missed out by one point on going back to back premiers with as you put it “scrappers”. Unfortunately played with a club full of pretty boy’s with the glamour footy style saw them plummet to the bottom soon after, due to the lack of the type of discipline brought about in part by Sydney Swans committed style
In trying to be educational and positive, may I humbly suggest to you that the quality sports journalist’s that perhaps you had hopes of becoming, try to offer a balanced opinion piece!
I wonder if it has ever entered your vacant head that instead of gloating at Sydneys considerable drop off in form you might also present the fact that dual brownlow "rugby style" champions like Adam Goodes has continued to busting his gut for the team whilst playing injured?
Or indeed be able to find some praise for the dedication and commitment shown by Nick Malceski for undertaking risky surgery in intense proud desire to represent the “ugly” Sydney football team.
Or maybe you might consider the intense joy all South Melbourne / Sydney Swans fans and many other fairminded football fans gained from seeing a football team “struggling” against all odds to deliver the ultimate premiership reward.
Or maybe you might contemplate whether indeed Mr Paul Roos innovation necessitated the AFL and grumpy, but sorry arsed, Chief Andy Demetriou to get their finger out and address the existing rules and interpretations, which appear to have been modified posthumously in an attempt to thwart predominately the success of Sydney Swans!?
The absolute ignorance you display about anything football is hilarious!!!. As you gloat at the end of the Sydney “kidney stone phase” I wonder whether this might turn on any lights in your dark consciousness.
Paul Roos is has not yet resigned! Sydney have more low order draft recruits on which to base a new team version. Are you absolutely sure that with a tweak he could not again build a side on a variation of a game plan that the ignorant might find to their horror is distasteful because it brings Sydney success and to take them back to the top of the pile?
Do you really think if Paul Roos was available, despite his record of “ugly” innovative ideas that any AFL club in search for a quality coach would not be interested in seeking his services? I laugh again as, doubt no Swan fans indeed most who know something about football, would need a millisecond to answer that last question, but YOU take your time go ahead ponder for a while, doing some research would help you too!
The best of your jokes is again on you Mr Grunt! You see to borrow the expression used by another legendary revered AFL coach Malcom Blight I for one and I suspect most (but can’t and won’t speak for them) “don’t give a rats toss bag” what you or other club fans think about Sydney’s long enduring proven methods of success.
You see you might have heard but not understood the sages old saying which goes “Winners are grinners and losers can please themselves”! Let me explain for you , clearly that endorses your perfectly entitled right to please yourself !
I suspect other Swans fans might have sent you a nasty rude letter perhaps even said something like “Go and get well and truly fcuked!” But I am a kind soul and realize with your miserable negative outlook on life and things in general, there would be absolutely no chance in your hellish existence for that most pleasant event to happen!
As this letter arrives on your trashy, scummy ,backroom desk I have no doubt you will read it and for sure you would not be used to getting any rare polite fan mail!
However I have also posted it on BigFooty forum as I feel it highly likely that a man battling for ideas would scour such sites looking for junk material so you can make ends meet, and hope that some naïve posters will boost you deflated miserable ego, by also displaying sheepish qualities, follow the mob, and then might actually agree with you?
Trevor, I enclose for your education a DVD a few of Sydney Swans football team highlights this decade 2000-2008. Please seek out someone actually involved in the modern AFL game with knowledge (perhaps from your saviors Geelong FC) and ask them to view these “exhilarating” passages of play and see if they can explain to you whether it is as you claim indeed any evidence of Sydney “strangling the life out of the game”!?
Trevor, AGAIN, thank you for the comedy if anyone thought your article was intended to be anything more than a clown acting the fool for some cheap laughs, in hope of gaining someones respect, or actually thought you were in anyway knowledgeable or serious they, unlike myself
Trusting the psychologist can help sort out the mess in your head soon!
With regards
Corpuscles
Well and truly worth the Yellow Card...post of the year IMO!
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Can you tell me where that article was posted?
what's a yellow card?
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It's what the moderators on the board hand out as a warning. It doesn't really do anything as such but if you get a red card then you are unable to post on the forum for a week or two.
Don't fret... it is an infraction... takes away some of my rights for a while.
But I didn't get one for that^^^^ (YET?
)I was stupid, rude and personally insulting ... on another BF board! But he prolly deserved it too!
Whilst i am here thanks! I am glad a few so far got some enjoyment!!!!!
But to be arguing with myself and fair ... there are a slim part of what he says in that trash ... that I agree with:
I am sort somewhat glad a changing of the guard is happening and new resources style etc might modernise the Swans. I got a little sick of dead set ugly and pushing the rules to the limit too!
But Roos based on his resources and circumstances has got the very best out of himself , the available playing list and did the right thing by the club and the millions of folks that got immense pleasure out of the last decade or so.!
Many write Roos and Swans off as no plan B
... but needs to have fresh resources to change that!
He is not supid and no point bashing away at alt plan B when you know it ain't got the backing fire power to bring desired results!
Clearly he might have a rest?????.... but I for one hope that after resting relaxing learning studing watching etc... he might again come back!
Uber respect for him whatever the consequences!!!!
Oh why I havea Daffy looney tune avatar is.... I don't care about being a winning ugly DUCK!
I am glad a few so far got some enjoyment!!!!!But to be arguing with myself and fair ... there are a slim part of what he says in that trash ... that I agree with:
I am sort somewhat glad a changing of the guard is happening and new resources style etc might modernise the Swans. I got a little sick of dead set ugly and pushing the rules to the limit too!
But Roos based on his resources and circumstances has got the very best out of himself , the available playing list and did the right thing by the club and the millions of folks that got immense pleasure out of the last decade or so.!
Many write Roos and Swans off as no plan B
... but needs to have fresh resources to change that!He is not supid and no point bashing away at alt plan B when you know it ain't got the backing fire power to bring desired results!
Clearly he might have a rest?????.... but I for one hope that after resting relaxing learning studing watching etc... he might again come back!
Uber respect for him whatever the consequences!!!!
Oh why I havea Daffy looney tune avatar is.... I don't care about being a winning ugly DUCK!
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100% SPOT ON Corpuscles !!! Trevor Grunt will hopefully crawl back from under the rock he has been hiding under for the past 12 years.
He obviously does heaps of reasearch before putting crayon to toilet paper, as this article attached below will illustrate.
Ugly Betty is fashionable, and so are the Ugly Duckling Swans ????
Measuring sustained success
By Matt Burgan 1:02 PM Mon 25 August, 2008
SUSTAINED success. It's a term often bandied around in football circles, but what does it actually mean?
Does it translate into consecutive premierships or flags achieved over a period of time? The number of top four finishes claimed in a row? Or successive finals made?
Realistically, it's most appropriate that sustained success is based on consecutive September outings or finals made over a period of time – particularly in today's AFL environment, revolved around drafts and the TPP (total player payments).
And with 18 teams set to compete from the next decade, sustained success is only going to get harder, with acknowledgment for regular finals players deserving of greater kudos.
On the weekend, eight teams nailed a September berth – Geelong, Hawthorn, Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne, Collingwood, Adelaide, St Kilda and the Sydney Swans. All have a chance at premiership glory, even if Geelong remains the raging red-hot favourite.
Regardless of what occurs throughout September, each club must be credited for securing a position eight other teams would relish. Ultimately, history will record these clubs as 2008 finals teams.
For three clubs in particular – Sydney Swans, Adelaide and North Melbourne – playing off in this year's finals series will continue what must be considered sustained success, when reflecting on the past 12 seasons.
Using 1997 as the starting point, when Port Adelaide entered the competition and Brisbane and the Lions merged to shape the league as we know it today, the Swans, Crows and Kangaroos (along with West Coast) have had the most sustained success.
This is based purely on the most finals appearances or in other words 'value for money', yet each team has also delivered premierships during this period.
In fact, the Swans are set to play off in their 10th finals series in 12 seasons – a feat no other AFL club can boast since 1997. Adelaide has played in nine and North Melbourne is next best with eight.
And although West Coast has endured a miserable season, those of the blue and gold faithful must understand the club has given it great value since 1997, as this will be just the third time it has missed out on the finals.
Quite clearly, the Brisbane Lions, with three premierships (2001-03) and four grand finals (2001-04), have had the most success since 1997, but not even they have competed in as many finals as the Sydney Swans, Adelaide or North Melbourne.
Still, Lions fans will hardly complain, as they were treated to a golden era – six consecutive finals series from 1999-2004, despite missing the past four finals series.
Even the brilliant Geelong, which is aiming for back-to-back flags, has had a 50 per cent finals ratio since 1997.
Yet North Melbourne achieved four top four appearances from 1997-2000 (it won the 1999 grand final and also the 1996 flag) under Denis Pagan, while Dean Laidley has taken the Kangas to three of the past four finals series – a first-class effort from the Roos.
Adelaide, through Gary Ayres and Neil Craig (who has the best winning ratio of any current coach in the competition), have guided the Crows to every finals series since 2001, except 2004.
And although Sydney Swans coach Paul Roos spoke on Saturday night of the difficulty to keep backing up each season, saying "it's hard to go back to the well all of the time", he and his predecessor Rodney Eade can be well and truly satisfied of their achievements.
After all, they have given the Swans the most consistent ride of any team since 1997.
THE FINALS LADDER – MOST APPEARANCES SINCE 1997
1 – Sydney Swans (10) – 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
2 – Adelaide (9) – 1997, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
3 – West Coast (9) – 1997, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
4 – North Melbourne (8) – 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007, 2008
5 – Brisbane Lions (7) – 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004
6 – Port Adelaide (7) – 1999, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007
7 – Essendon (7) – 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004
8 – Geelong (6) – 1997, 2000, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008
9 – St Kilda (6) – 1997, 1998, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008
10 – Melbourne (6) – 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006
11 – Western Bulldogs (6) – 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2006, 2008
12 – Collingwood (5) – 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008
13 – Hawthorn (4) – 2000, 2001, 2007, 2008
14 – Carlton (3) – 1999, 2000, 2001
15 – Fremantle (2) – 2003, 2006
16 – Richmond (1) – 2001
I'm only guessing but Trevor Grunt probably follows the Tigers ???
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1996 was also a very year. Finished the season as minor premiers and made the Grand Final, although I don't really want to be reminded of that result.....
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And must we point to games such as the '05 Prelim against the Saints, and that game in Round 9 against Port where the commentators actually commented on the Swans' ability to kick high scores? If we're an ugly team then why are games where we play a free-flowing high scoring game ignored?
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Don't fret... it is an infraction... takes away some of my rights for a while.
But I didn't get one for that^^^^ (YET?
I was stupid, rude and personally insulting ... on another BF board! But he prolly deserved it too!
Top post Corpy, 'prolly' the best post Ive read from you, and theres been heaps of rippers!
I hope you sent that to him somehow, AND his editors!...
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100% SPOT ON Corpuscles !!! Trevor Grunt will hopefully crawl back from under the rock he has been hiding under for the past 12 years.
He obviously does heaps of reasearch before putting crayon to toilet paper, as this article attached below will illustrate.
Ugly Betty is fashionable, and so are the Ugly Duckling Swans ????
Measuring sustained success
By Matt Burgan 1:02 PM Mon 25 August, 2008
The Swans have had the most sustained finals success
SUSTAINED success. It's a term often bandied around in football circles, but what does it actually mean?
Does it translate into consecutive premierships or flags achieved over a period of time? The number of top four finishes claimed in a row? Or successive finals made?
Realistically, it's most appropriate that sustained success is based on consecutive September outings or finals made over a period of time – particularly in today's AFL environment, revolved around drafts and the TPP (total player payments).
And with 18 teams set to compete from the next decade, sustained success is only going to get harder, with acknowledgment for regular finals players deserving of greater kudos.
On the weekend, eight teams nailed a September berth – Geelong, Hawthorn, Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne, Collingwood, Adelaide, St Kilda and the Sydney Swans. All have a chance at premiership glory, even if Geelong remains the raging red-hot favourite.
Regardless of what occurs throughout September, each club must be credited for securing a position eight other teams would relish. Ultimately, history will record these clubs as 2008 finals teams.
For three clubs in particular – Sydney Swans, Adelaide and North Melbourne – playing off in this year's finals series will continue what must be considered sustained success, when reflecting on the past 12 seasons.
Using 1997 as the starting point, when Port Adelaide entered the competition and Brisbane and the Lions merged to shape the league as we know it today, the Swans, Crows and Kangaroos (along with West Coast) have had the most sustained success.
This is based purely on the most finals appearances or in other words 'value for money', yet each team has also delivered premierships during this period.
In fact, the Swans are set to play off in their 10th finals series in 12 seasons – a feat no other AFL club can boast since 1997. Adelaide has played in nine and North Melbourne is next best with eight.
And although West Coast has endured a miserable season, those of the blue and gold faithful must understand the club has given it great value since 1997, as this will be just the third time it has missed out on the finals.
Quite clearly, the Brisbane Lions, with three premierships (2001-03) and four grand finals (2001-04), have had the most success since 1997, but not even they have competed in as many finals as the Sydney Swans, Adelaide or North Melbourne.
Still, Lions fans will hardly complain, as they were treated to a golden era – six consecutive finals series from 1999-2004, despite missing the past four finals series.
Even the brilliant Geelong, which is aiming for back-to-back flags, has had a 50 per cent finals ratio since 1997.
Yet North Melbourne achieved four top four appearances from 1997-2000 (it won the 1999 grand final and also the 1996 flag) under Denis Pagan, while Dean Laidley has taken the Kangas to three of the past four finals series – a first-class effort from the Roos.
Adelaide, through Gary Ayres and Neil Craig (who has the best winning ratio of any current coach in the competition), have guided the Crows to every finals series since 2001, except 2004.
And although Sydney Swans coach Paul Roos spoke on Saturday night of the difficulty to keep backing up each season, saying "it's hard to go back to the well all of the time", he and his predecessor Rodney Eade can be well and truly satisfied of their achievements.
After all, they have given the Swans the most consistent ride of any team since 1997.
THE FINALS LADDER – MOST APPEARANCES SINCE 1997
1 – Sydney Swans (10) – 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
2 – Adelaide (9) – 1997, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
3 – West Coast (9) – 1997, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
4 – North Melbourne (8) – 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007, 2008
5 – Brisbane Lions (7) – 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004
6 – Port Adelaide (7) – 1999, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007
7 – Essendon (7) – 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004
8 – Geelong (6) – 1997, 2000, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008
9 – St Kilda (6) – 1997, 1998, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008
10 – Melbourne (6) – 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006
11 – Western Bulldogs (6) – 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2006, 2008
12 – Collingwood (5) – 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008
13 – Hawthorn (4) – 2000, 2001, 2007, 2008
14 – Carlton (3) – 1999, 2000, 2001
15 – Fremantle (2) – 2003, 2006
16 – Richmond (1) – 2001
I'm only guessing but Trevor Grunt probably follows the Tigers ???
Thanks for that Lakeside Legacy!
May all the positive energy from our posting today flow on to our team of warriors for one last tilt for at least some finals success.
Please let us play Collingwood. I'm sure the players would love that challenge!!
Come to pappa!!