NEAFL - Northern Conference 2013

[stuyd1]

Not tipping Broady Premier?
Is weller and Geary not playing?

kittycat,
Broady have a long injury list...and unfortunately this list includes some 5 of our top 10 players.( Geary, Walton,Fife,Greely,Mcconichie,), thus I can see why 2010 Premier gave Labrador the nod.... Still I think we can win... have regained Brennan, and Haley.... and will be very interesting to see how Harris goes, having his first game in the seniors after some 3 seasons away....

 

[stuyd1]

Watched the Thunder vs Panthers today... good contest with only a goal separating the sides for the first 3 quarters.. Panthers then broke the game with a 9 goal last quarter.Have seen the Panthers over the past 3 weeks against my Cats, Southport and today.... They play very good footy all over the ground, but are lacking with poor disposal on many occasions resulting in turnover of the pill, and need very much to improve on there goalkicking.... many missed goals that should of been goals.
Some 3 seasons ago I commented on this Forum that Kent Abey was one of the best overhead marks in the comp... and after his performance today, he still is... he dominated in the final quarter, took the game by the scruff of the neck in a matchwinning performance.

 

[2010premier]

kittycat,
Broady have a long injury list...and unfortunately this list includes some 5 of our top 10 players.( Geary, Walton,Fife,Greely,Mcconichie,), thus I can see why 2010 Premier gave Labrador the nod.... Still I think we can win... have regained Brennan, and Haley.... and will be very interesting to see how Harris goes, having his first game in the seniors after some 3 seasons away....

Cats were very spirited today. The skill level from both sides today left a fair bit to be desired but the cats got over the line because they wanted it more. Facing the worst injury situation that I can remember 16 total and 9 senior players against Labrador who had the majority of their best available. 2 debutants and 2 others playing their first senior game in 5 years all did ok. An extremely physical game in front of an excellent crowd. Shreeve should poll ok in the grogan, I reckon clearly best afield for I would think the 3rd or 4th time this year. His ability to accelerate away from stoppages is good. Labrador have some top liners but their bottom 6 is their Achilles heal IMO. Goldsmith is a top young kp playe, white works hard, but davey"s form isn't great, well held for not the first time.

 

[Speedyunit]

Watched the Thunder vs Panthers today... good contest with only a goal separating the sides for the first 3 quarters.. Panthers then broke the game with a 9 goal last quarter.Have seen the Panthers over the past 3 weeks against my Cats, Southport and today.... They play very good footy all over the ground, but are lacking with poor disposal on many occasions resulting in turnover of the pill, and need very much to improve on there goalkicking.... many missed goals that should of been goals.
Some 3 seasons ago I commented on this Forum that Kent Abey was one of the best overhead marks in the comp... and after his performance today, he still is... he dominated in the final quarter, took the game by the scruff of the neck in a matchwinning performance.

Kent is one of the greatest forwards to play in the league.

 

[Yesterday]

Plenty of rumours around about a restructured NEAFL next year....depending on who you believe, many existing clubs may be given the flick..

 

[footymaad]

Friend who has son at Mt Gravatt tells me certainly lots of concerns at the club about possibly not being in NEAFL next year. As Morningside supporter hope the clubs lack of funds doesn't put them at risk.

Anyone have anything concrete about what is being considered for comp next year?

 

[smy1305]

I do know the comp will be taken over and run by the AFL clubs - it will be a comp specifically for the 2 current AFL clubs and will be designed to maximise the capacity to showcase footy talent all over the state. RBTL I think that unfinancial clubs are at grave risk of staying in no matter how successful they have been in the past. Nth Qld will be a big chance to come in. Agree with Yesterday and FM.

 

[kwhit]

Rumours are rife at the moment. Have heard that only Aspley and Southport will be in next years NEAFL competition with Gold Coast, Brisbane, NT and cross conference matches to make up the remainder with Morningside, Mt Gravatt, Labrador, Broadbeach dropping back into the SEQAFL div 1. Maroochydore, Burleigh and Coolangatta making room for them by dropping back a division! Now I know that the numbers don't add up there and what about Redlands? I have only heard what I have posted, so take what you want from it but that is what I am hearing. I do believe there is a meeting this week at AFLQ to discuss this proposal. Will be very interesting to see the outcome.

 

[Breretonisahood]

Rumours are rife at the moment. Have heard that only Aspley and Southport will be in next years NEAFL competition with Gold Coast, Brisbane, NT and cross conference matches to make up the remainder with Morningside, Mt Gravatt, Labrador, Broadbeach dropping back into the SEQAFL div 1. Maroochydore, Burleigh and Coolangatta making room for them by dropping back a division! Now I know that the numbers don't add up there and what about Redlands? I have only heard what I have posted, so take what you want from it but that is what I am hearing. I do believe there is a meeting this week at AFLQ to discuss this proposal. Will be very interesting to see the outcome.

If that's true, lots of repercussions throughout footy in QLD. 1st Div SEQAFL will be interesting with Morningside, Mt Gravatt, Labrador, Broadbeach and maybe Redland entering, but Maroochydore, Burleigh and Coolangatta will be pissed off. I suppose this is the way AFL in Queensland has been heading for a few years now since the licence was taken off Zillmere- $$$ cashed up clubs like Aspley and Southport are the only "viable" clubs. I've always admired the way Morningside (and previously Zillmere) were such strong clubs with no $$$ to spend. At least some of the old local rivalries can be revived/continued in 1st Div.

 

[kittycat12]

If that's true, lots of repercussions throughout footy in QLD. 1st Div SEQAFL will be interesting with Morningside, Mt Gravatt, Labrador, Broadbeach and maybe Redland entering, but Maroochydore, Burleigh and Coolangatta will be pissed off. I suppose this is the way AFL in Queensland has been heading for a few years now since the licence was taken off Zillmere- $$$ cashed up clubs like Aspley and Southport are the only "viable" clubs. I've always admired the way Morningside (and previously Zillmere) were such strong clubs with no $$$ to spend. At least some of the old local rivalries can be revived/continued in 1st Div.

Have heard these rumours around the club as well.
Think that the proposed alternative is a step backwards and shortsighted.
Will kids/mature age players get drafted from Div 1? I doubt it.
It will be a real shame with our new facility going to be the best in Div 1.
Would Nth QLD be able to be competitive?

 

[Breretonisahood]

Have heard these rumours around the club as well.
Think that the proposed alternative is a step backwards and shortsighted.
Will kids/mature age players get drafted from Div 1? I doubt it.
It will be a real shame with our new facility going to be the best in Div 1.
Would Nth QLD be able to be competitive?

I can't see Nth QLD being competetive without an injection of players and $$$. Maybe the AFL will offer incentives to the better players from the clubs leaving the NEAFL to go north. Otherwise, a Nth QLD team will be cannon fodder.

 

[kwhit]

I would be very surprised if Nth Qld could be competitive! They have been belted by the stockman team the past two outings. And it would be fair to say a stockman squad would be competitive at best in NEAFL.

 

[footymaad]

Seems to be all about the AFL teams and having a comp that serves their purposes. In some ways would like to see them have their own comp and let Qld teams go back to competing against each other on a somewhat more even playing field. Sounds like proposal is partly this, but also taking a couple of cashed up SE Qld teams with them??

However despite first thoughts being get the AFL reserves out of our local comp if they don't want to be part or it, the real issue as brought up above if what this means for local comp and particularly the young talent coming through? Majority of money will Im sure go to this comp and not to the next level down. And If the only SE Qld teams in the NEAFL were Aspley and Southport and they then have to spend big money buying players from interstate to be competitive as AFL teams want to play as many listed players as available each game, where does that leave the local kids? Not every talented 18 yo will want to or be able to go to those 2 clubs, and the number of spots available will be limited anyway. Agree will be hard to get noticed in second tier comp. And where do Southport and Aspley reserves play?

Hopefully there is a balance in discussions between what the AFL and AFL clubs want, and what's best for the future of local grassroots footy.

 

[Speedyunit]

Seems to be all about the AFL teams and having a comp that serves their purposes. In some ways would like to see them have their own comp and let Qld teams go back to competing against each other on a somewhat more even playing field. Sounds like proposal is partly this, but also taking a couple of cashed up SE Qld teams with them??

However despite first thoughts being get the AFL reserves out of our local comp if they don't want to be part or it, the real issue as brought up above if what this means for local comp and particularly the young talent coming through? Majority of money will Im sure go to this comp and not to the next level down. And If the only SE Qld teams in the NEAFL were Aspley and Southport and they then have to spend big money buying players from interstate to be competitive as AFL teams want to play as many listed players as available each game, where does that leave the local kids? Not every talented 18 yo will want to or be able to go to those 2 clubs, and the number of spots available will be limited anyway. Agree will be hard to get noticed in second tier comp. And where do Southport and Aspley reserves play?

Hopefully there is a balance in discussions between what the AFL and AFL clubs want, and what's best for the future of local grassroots footy.

i still dont see why we cant just have the left over listed players filtering back to local clubs like they did in the 90s, the proffesionalism of local coaches and clubs has certainly changed since then!
why not have 4 brisbane clubs with the injection of say 5 players each from the lions, 4 GC clubs with the injection of 5 plyers from the suns, i know this wont happen but, it would hold the integrity of the comp together as well give the afl clubs control of their players if they are willing to communicate with the clubs...

 

[Dogwarna]

If your a traditionalist this is horrible news..
As I know it the comp will be:
Lions
Suns
Swans
GWS
Nt
Nq
Aspley
Southport
Ainslie

My beef is this is happening next yr supposedly. Neafl clubs meeting with Afl over wed and thurs.. Who at AFLQ going into bat for the tradition of our league.. Why pump coin into Nq at the detriment of a Morningside..$500000 the magic number to be apart of it. So aspley and south to spend close to $750000 maybe to finish where on the ladder if afl lists predominantly injur free. Will afl clubs be set up like the vfl where fringe players are signed by lions, suns etc.. So many variables so little time

 

[footymaad]

In reply to speedyunit

As you say, this wont happen. AFL teams across the country all want stand alone teams where they are in complete control of the players - where they play, game time, focus of development over winning etc.

Herein lies the major issue - is the major state
Comps primary purpose to provide a reserves comp for AFL teams and to aid in the development of their players, or is it to have a true competitive local showcase comp for the best local players.

In WA and SA the battle rages to maintain the integrity of local comp. Unfortunately in Qld and NSW we don't have the money / interest in local comp to argue for integrity of local comp - AFL will do what they want / what they think is best for local AFL team in my view. And local clubs have little choice but to go along with it to ensure ongoing support for grounds / facilities etc, which most can't afford to maintain on their own

 

[Speedyunit]

If your a traditionalist this is horrible news..
As I know it the comp will be:
Lions
Suns
Swans
GWS
Nt
Nq
Aspley
Southport
Ainslie

My beef is this is happening next yr supposedly. Neafl clubs meeting with Afl over wed and thurs.. Who at AFLQ going into bat for the tradition of our league.. Why pump coin into Nq at the detriment of a Morningside..$500000 the magic number to be apart of it. So aspley and south to spend close to $750000 maybe to finish where on the ladder if afl lists predominantly injur free. Will afl clubs be set up like the vfl where fringe players are signed by lions, suns etc.. So many variables so little time

it isnt such a bad thing as the current AP cup will be the old QAFL you would think maybe a 16 team comp?
West
MtG
Red
Panthers
Sandgate
Grange
Mayne
Noosa
PBC
Broady
Lab
Surfers
all geographicalareas covered good comp good traditional footy.....Redland are the concern as they have the $$$$ but all other clubs would have similair $$$ and player draw power?

 

[footymaad]

If your a traditionalist this is horrible news..

Agreed - depressing. Hadnt thought of the idea of AFL teams signing locals to play for them - sig implications as well - would they go for best locals and pay them, best kids from academy and not pay them, etc. Any option would have sig implications for local comp

As a local footy watcher can't see myself going out of my way to watch matches in such a comp, an sure many others will be the same. Only reason would be to watch local young talent if they were playing as "top ups"

If this proposal becomes general knowledge by end of week (likely if being discussed this week) then there are going to be some interesting discussions around the grounds this weekends...

 

[kittycat12]

The reality is that maybe going forward 1 Brisbane and 1 GC club would need to drop out as there is not enough depth of talent to support the current comp. But a super comp as proposed holds no interest to me and my mates who watch most Broady games and go to other coast games. And going back to a lower standard does not excite me either. The advantage the WAFL and SANFL have is that I think they still own their comp. Sadly we gave that back to the AFL.
Don't understand the fuss around AFL sides having a "better" comp. Sydney have done fine over the years. And Brisbane won 3 premierships 10 years ago with a lower standard comp.
Feel sorry for the young kids coming through. They will struggle to get genuine opportunities IMO.

 

[kwhit]

I must say the NEAFL comp will be very interesting if the format posted is correct! But the Div 1 will be a beauty, that list of teams would make for a far better competition than the current one. What would be everyones thoughts on potentially pulling out of the under 18 National carnival and have the under 18's represented in the NEAFL comp? I mean we cop a whipping by the southern states and realistically only push NT and NSW. The exposure they would get from playing in a NEAFL comp would be far superior to running around for 3 months, getting pumped by the big states and going back home to their respective state league or div 1 clubs. Thoughts?

 

[2010premier]

it isnt such a bad thing as the current AP cup will be the old QAFL you would think maybe a 16 team comp?
West
MtG
Red
Panthers
Sandgate
Grange
Mayne
Noosa
PBC
Broady
Lab
Surfers
all geographicalareas covered good comp good traditional footy.....Redland are the concern as they have the $$$$ but all other clubs would have similair $$$ and player draw power?

It may be a reasonably even comp but really a massive step back IMO. The neafl attracts quality players to the the opportunity of playing in the best comp in qld and interstate travel, games against afl reserves teams. Take these away and there is little incentive to play footy in qld.

The standard would be very poor, and I wouldnt be very interested in it. I reckon you would go back to the old days where the best youngsters would have to go interstate to get noticed. With only southport and aspley very few talented youngsters would get a chance, further reducing our draft numbers. The academies are a failure IMO they should go back to rep teams like in the under 16"s to play an extended carnival (a 10 week season) finishing up prior to the national championships. These rep sides would be based on zones and be linked to neafl clubs and the extended carnival would replace the current neafl u 18"s. After the state carnival the players would either play with the neafl club or go back to the local club and play in the seniors.

I find it hard to fathom why they would want to pump huge $$$ into a nth qld team that probably will get whacked, where there are some good clubs in the current neafl that get very little assistance and in my opinion overall do a pretty good job developing players and improving the standard of the comp.

It also seems as the afl is going to tell the clubs how its going to be, rather than consulting with the major stakeholders of qld footy.

 

[Speedyunit]

It may be a reasonably even comp but really a massive step back IMO. The neafl attracts quality players to the the opportunity of playing in the best comp in qld and interstate travel, games against afl reserves teams. Take these away and there is little incentive to play footy in qld.

The standard would be very poor, and I wouldnt be very interested in it. I reckon you would go back to the old days where the best youngsters would have to go interstate to get noticed. With only southport and aspley very few talented youngsters would get a chance, further reducing our draft numbers. The academies are a failure IMO they should go back to rep teams like in the under 16"s to play an extended carnival (a 10 week season) finishing up prior to the national championships. These rep sides would be based on zones and be linked to neafl clubs and the extended carnival would replace the current neafl u 18"s. After the state carnival the players would either play with the neafl club or go back to the local club and play in the seniors.

I find it hard to fathom why they would want to pump huge $$$ into a nth qld team that probably will get whacked, where there are some good clubs in the current neafl that get very little assistance and in my opinion overall do a pretty good job developing players and improving the standard of the comp.

It also seems as the afl is going to tell the clubs how its going to be, rather than consulting with the major stakeholders of qld footy.

how many interstate players are there currently at Panthers,vultures,labrador and broady?

 

[Speedyunit]

how many interstate players are there currently at Panthers,vultures,labrador and broady?

i reckon Palm Beach would have more then some of them....

 

[thoselionslads]

If your a traditionalist this is horrible news..
As I know it the comp will be:
Lions
Suns
Swans
GWS
Nt
Nq
Aspley
Southport
Ainslie

My beef is this is happening next yr supposedly. Neafl clubs meeting with Afl over wed and thurs.. Who at AFLQ going into bat for the tradition of our league.. Why pump coin into Nq at the detriment of a Morningside..$500000 the magic number to be apart of it. So aspley and south to spend close to $750000 maybe to finish where on the ladder if afl lists predominantly injur free. Will afl clubs be set up like the vfl where fringe players are signed by lions, suns etc.. So many variables so little time

I've heard similar things.

It was inevitable, but how will kids who live in South East corridor (ie the ones who have played at MtG, M'side & R'lands) get drafted? Will they have to drive to Aspley or Southport?

 

[chikka ferguson]

Aspley have 1st choice in playing Conway and Tickner for rest of the year. If Aspley don't select them in seniors then Lions can play them. That's the arrangement Brisbane agreed to start of the year. Question begs who does Blairy drop for Conway after his injury?