New rule if 19 players are on the field.

[MagooTheRoo]

I can't believe that the AFL managed to sort this out. The old rule was completely unworkable and the potential penalty way too harsh for a minor infringement. They reacted well and in a timely manner after the NM v Syd problem the other week.

Normally these clowns couldn't organise a pi$$ up in a brewery but I've got to give credit where it's due. The new rule is actually workable and appropriate.

 

[telsor]

Good on them for acting so quickly, but the punishment is too little.

Having 19 on the ground could be a massive advantage..The penalty should be bad enough that nobody would consider it...A free + 50 doesn't cut it.

 

[MagooTheRoo]

My understanding is that the emergency ump would signal the free kick immediately the extra player went on so I don't see how they could get too much of an advantage.

 

[red+black]

How no one posted this last night I don't know. I was listening to SEN and thought there must be a bit of discussion about this on BigFooty, but no, nothing.

The old rule is a joke. The new rule is a joke. Even worse is that there are three different rules over three rounds.

Round 7 - old rule
Round 8 - no rule
Round 9 - new rule

If the wanted to award a free-kick, should have simply made it a kick from the 10m line by any player the team chooses, that is, virtually a guaranteed goal. But what a joke that a team gets a 50k fine, a few weeks later, it's a free-kick which could result in an out of bounds on the full

 

[Hawthorn United]

They should of given the same punishment they were going to give during the NAB Cup if teams went over the interchange quota each quarter.

 

[Spook]

My understanding is that the emergency ump would signal the free kick immediately the extra player went on so I don't see how they could get too much of an advantage.

If the emergency ump doesn't see him go on.

 

[telsor]

My understanding is that the emergency ump would signal the free kick immediately the extra player went on so I don't see how they could get too much of an advantage.

What about at the start of the quarter ( for example )?

Make it simple...In addition to the free/50, the 19th man can't come back on the ground for the rest of the game. If there is dispute who is the 19th man ( is, at the start of the qtr ), the opposing captain gets to pick.

It's harsh, but think all teams will make every effort NOT to do it.

 

[Grave Danger]

All sounds a bit 'Soviet era'.

 

[Atomboy]

What about at the start of the quarter ( for example )?

Make it simple...In addition to the free/50, the 19th man can't come back on the ground for the rest of the game. If there is dispute who is the 19th man ( is, at the start of the qtr ), the opposing captain gets to pick.

It's harsh, but think all teams will make every effort NOT to do it.

Or you could just tie the 19th man to a wheelchair, strap a pool ball in his gob and wheel him around the boundary line so the crowd can throw stuff at him

 

[No1SwansFan]

Or you could just tie the 19th man to a wheelchair, strap a pool ball in his gob and wheel him around the boundary line so the crowd can throw stuff at him

From what I understand there is an interchange area with 2 stewards and the players themselves hand over the slips o paper and have to wait there or the person they are replacing to come off. Would make it awful hard for an accident to happen so if in the event there is an extra man on the field it should be considered intentional and a massive penalty should happen or the stewards have done something wrong and need to be dealt with.

 

[candiehappy]

From what I understand there is an interchange area with 2 stewards and the players themselves hand over the slips o paper and have to wait there or the person they are replacing to come off. Would make it awful hard for an accident to happen so if in the event there is an extra man on the field it should be considered intentional and a massive penalty should happen or the stewards have done something wrong and need to be dealt with.

In country footy we've had interchange stewards forever. It's not rocket science....

 

[CrowMagnum]

These slips of paper seem a bit amateurish, do you have to wait for your number to be called like in a deli? They may as well hug each other or give a high 5 as they interchange, like in soccer.

 

[XFactor1979]

this rule is useless

just limit the number of interchanges like they do in nrl

*holds one-fingered salute to mick malthouse*

 

[Haydos]

Geez you blokes are hard to please.

There is one steward per team dedicated to monitoring interchange transitions. If a player goes on before another is off (even by a metre) there is immediately, he immedaitely informs the emergency umpire who communicates with the main umpires and a free kick is awarded 30-40m out from goal.

If that rule was in place against Sydney vs North, North would have won and there would have been no need for a $50,000 fine.

 

[pharro]

From what I understand there is an interchange area with 2 stewards and the players themselves hand over the slips o paper and have to wait there or the person they are replacing to come off. Would make it awful hard for an accident to happen so if in the event there is an extra man on the field it should be considered intentional and a massive penalty should happen or the stewards have done something wrong and need to be dealt with.

I don't think this rule is designed to prevent accidents like the White/Jolly/Jack situation. It is more about preventing the player coming on from gaining 5, 10, 15, 20 metres on their opponent by flagrantly breaking the rule knowing that there was absolutely no recourse for 19 men on the field for a few seconds.

 

[BIGBEZ]

I don't think this rule is designed to prevent accidents like the White/Jolly/Jack situation. It is more about preventing the player coming on from gaining 5, 10, 15, 20 metres on their opponent by flagrantly breaking the rule knowing that there was absolutely no recourse for 19 men on the field for a few seconds.

haha, it was just White mate, just admit it, he was the 19th man, even with this new rule, who would the emergency ump have pinged as the 19th man?

 

[Mitchell Madness]

It will screw up. When there is a ruck near the interchange, occasionally (at least 5 times a yr) the player will think he can come on. And for about a minute he is on and gets a touch or two. This means, that teams will get a free kick because of a ruck contest too close to a boundary... This rule needs to be changed too, and another and so on... everything has a negative.

 

[BIGBEZ]

It will screw up. When there is a ruck near the interchange, occasionally (at least 5 times a yr) the player will think he can come on. And for about a minute he is on and gets a touch or two. This means, that teams will get a free kick because of a ruck contest too close to a boundary... This rule needs to be changed too, and another and so on... everything has a negative.

In all levels of footy, players coming on the ground, have always waited near the gates, usually champing at the bit, you always run on a few steps early, I wonder how strict this rule will be policed?

 

[pharro]

haha, it was just White mate, just admit it, he was the 19th man, even with this new rule, who would the emergency ump have pinged as the 19th man?

Haha, it's bigger than that Sport. The AFL was very concerned with the tendency of players to run onto the ground regardless of how close or far away the player they were swapping with was to the boundary. Can you not see that this is exactly what the new rule addresses?

 

[pharro]

In all levels of footy, players coming on the ground, have always waited near the gates, usually champing at the bit, you always run on a few steps early, I wonder how strict this rule will be policed?

Hopefully as strictly as the centre square at centre bounces. Running on early and having too many on the field is fundamentally wrong.

 

[Tatsean]

In country footy we've had interchange stewards forever. It's not rocket science....

I agree. And if u get caught in the country leagues you get your score wiped off. On saturday night against Kyabram we ran on to the ground after half time and realised we had 7 in the forward line. The 19th player quickly ran off after cries from the bench. He wouldn't listen to me. I told him to stay on. We were down 11.10 to 0.0 so what could the umpire have done after a head count? Can we have a negative score?

 

[candiehappy]

I agree. And if u get caught in the country leagues you get your score wiped off. On saturday night against Kyabram we ran on to the ground after half time and realised we had 7 in the forward line. The 19th player quickly ran off after cries from the bench. He wouldn't listen to me. I told him to stay on. We were down 11.10 to 0.0 so what could the umpire have done after a head count? Can we have a negative score?

That's pretty good! We have a dominent team in our league in Bairnsdale. Got caught with 19 on the ground in the third quarter a few weeks ago. Cost them the game, couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of pr*cks...

 

[No1SwansFan]

I don't think this rule is designed to prevent accidents like the White/Jolly/Jack situation. It is more about preventing the player coming on from gaining 5, 10, 15, 20 metres on their opponent by flagrantly breaking the rule knowing that there was absolutely no recourse for 19 men on the field for a few seconds.

I think this rule will prevent it from happening but really if a team wanted to cheat they could it will prevent the accidents though. I dont know how times at the Sydney v Dogs game i watched players from both teams running on before the players coming off were over it. Happens frequently and it will stop that from happening not that it has a bearing on the game.