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Gone Critical said:
Hopefully Nick is as good as the wraps on him, we need some young elite talent in the club

Just want to clarify where he sits to get it right in my mind

He has played school footy (with Rowell and Anderson) and looked elite
He has played some rep footy
At this point he has not played TAC
His most recent footy is 2019
Rendell descibed him "as good a junior as I have seen play the game". He does like hyperbole Matt

Is all the above true?

Best case senario is he is a number 1 draft pick (or near to that) and we get him for unders and have converted 2021 first rounder into some medium level talent via the 2020 draft. We have a good 2021 so the pick we give up is somewhere in mid teens.

Worse case senario. Nick is good but not as good as the wraps say. He performs well at TAC level and maybe ends up as a 10-20 level pick. We have a bad 2021 and end up with pick 5-10 which now belongs to GWS. If we had kept it we would have had access to Nick and a pick between 5-10 in the 2021 draft which is assessed more highly than 2020 at this point.

I understand our strategy to a degree but if what I have written is correct and I am not misunderstanding the position I wonder whether we would not have odds on our side by having held onto the 2021 1st. We got 24,30 and a future 4th, there is a real chance that pick turns into a top 10 pick in a good draft and even if Nick goes in early picks we could have still traded it out next year possibly for a much better price. Of course if ends up a mid teen pick that will be different and I suspect the club and recruiting team have backed up to get the double, Nick a top 3 choice and finals in 2021, if so happy days.

Worse case like senario and we will have shot ourselves in the foot bigtime. It does seem a risk on a kid who hasn't played for 12 months and has not played TAC cup. Thoughts
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The kid is a certified jet. Don’t worry about it. The club wouldn’t have taken the route they did unless they were certain he was going to be top 5.
 
Gone Critical said:
Hopefully Nick is as good as the wraps on him, we need some young elite talent in the club

Just want to clarify where he sits to get it right in my mind

He has played school footy (with Rowell and Anderson) and looked elite
He has played some rep footy
At this point he has not played TAC
His most recent footy is 2019
Rendell descibed him "as good a junior as I have seen play the game". He does like hyperbole Matt

Is all the above true?

Best case senario is he is a number 1 draft pick (or near to that) and we get him for unders and have converted 2021 first rounder into some medium level talent via the 2020 draft. We have a good 2021 so the pick we give up is somewhere in mid teens.

Worse case senario. Nick is good but not as good as the wraps say. He performs well at TAC level and maybe ends up as a 10-20 level pick. We have a bad 2021 and end up with pick 5-10 which now belongs to GWS. If we had kept it we would have had access to Nick and a pick between 5-10 in the 2021 draft which is assessed more highly than 2020 at this point.

I understand our strategy to a degree but if what I have written is correct and I am not misunderstanding the position I wonder whether we would not have odds on our side by having held onto the 2021 1st. We got 24,30 and a future 4th, there is a real chance that pick turns into a top 10 pick in a good draft and even if Nick goes in early picks we could have still traded it out next year possibly for a much better price. Of course if ends up a mid teen pick that will be different and I suspect the club and recruiting team have backed up to get the double, Nick a top 3 choice and finals in 2021, if so happy days.

Worse case like senario and we will have shot ourselves in the foot bigtime. It does seem a risk on a kid who hasn't played for 12 months and has not played TAC cup. Thoughts
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Footy is a risk whatever way you look at it and especially drafting.

You have to look at not only your unbiased prospects for the coming year but also the relative prospects of the stronger clubs - such as retirement of key players etc. and then make your best guess.

The biggest risk is missing out on what many football experts seem to agree is a top prospect.

Time will tell.
 

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Gone Critical said:
Hopefully Nick is as good as the wraps on him, we need some young elite talent in the club

Just want to clarify where he sits to get it right in my mind

He has played school footy (with Rowell and Anderson) and looked elite
He has played some rep footy
At this point he has not played TAC
His most recent footy is 2019
Rendell descibed him "as good a junior as I have seen play the game". He does like hyperbole Matt

Is all the above true?

Best case senario is he is a number 1 draft pick (or near to that) and we get him for unders and have converted 2021 first rounder into some medium level talent via the 2020 draft. We have a good 2021 so the pick we give up is somewhere in mid teens.

Worse case senario. Nick is good but not as good as the wraps say. He performs well at TAC level and maybe ends up as a 10-20 level pick. We have a bad 2021 and end up with pick 5-10 which now belongs to GWS. If we had kept it we would have had access to Nick and a pick between 5-10 in the 2021 draft which is assessed more highly than 2020 at this point.

I understand our strategy to a degree but if what I have written is correct and I am not misunderstanding the position I wonder whether we would not have odds on our side by having held onto the 2021 1st. We got 24,30 and a future 4th, there is a real chance that pick turns into a top 10 pick in a good draft and even if Nick goes in early picks we could have still traded it out next year possibly for a much better price. Of course if ends up a mid teen pick that will be different and I suspect the club and recruiting team have backed up to get the double, Nick a top 3 choice and finals in 2021, if so happy days.

Worse case like scenario and we will have shot ourselves in the foot bigtime. It does seem a risk on a kid who hasn't played for 12 months and has not played TAC cup. Thoughts
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All true as far as I'm aware.

Draft prospects seem to be aligned to body shape/size I think. Big bodied kids who dominate those younger levels seem to be the bigger risk whereas a skinny kid like Nick Daicos tends to get better as they gain the physical attributes and experience to better compete. The biggest thing (outside significant injury) that might impact his draft position is another disjointed U18's season with little or no footy.

I'd be very surprised if he slid out of the top 10.
 
Gone Critical said:
Hopefully Nick is as good as the wraps on him, we need some young elite talent in the club

Just want to clarify where he sits to get it right in my mind

He has played school footy (with Rowell and Anderson) and looked elite
He has played some rep footy
At this point he has not played TAC
His most recent footy is 2019
Rendell descibed him "as good a junior as I have seen play the game". He does like hyperbole Matt

Is all the above true?

Best case senario is he is a number 1 draft pick (or near to that) and we get him for unders and have converted 2021 first rounder into some medium level talent via the 2020 draft. We have a good 2021 so the pick we give up is somewhere in mid teens.

Worse case senario. Nick is good but not as good as the wraps say. He performs well at TAC level and maybe ends up as a 10-20 level pick. We have a bad 2021 and end up with pick 5-10 which now belongs to GWS. If we had kept it we would have had access to Nick and a pick between 5-10 in the 2021 draft which is assessed more highly than 2020 at this point.

I understand our strategy to a degree but if what I have written is correct and I am not misunderstanding the position I wonder whether we would not have odds on our side by having held onto the 2021 1st. We got 24,30 and a future 4th, there is a real chance that pick turns into a top 10 pick in a good draft and even if Nick goes in early picks we could have still traded it out next year possibly for a much better price. Of course if ends up a mid teen pick that will be different and I suspect the club and recruiting team have backed up to get the double, Nick a top 3 choice and finals in 2021, if so happy days.

Worse case like senario and we will have shot ourselves in the foot bigtime. It does seem a risk on a kid who hasn't played for 12 months and has not played TAC cup. Thoughts
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That why it was good to get 4 top 31 Picks in last year Draft as we Finally bring in some Highly Rated Youngsters instead of Trading for a Mature Star then getting Prospects late int the Draft and Rookie Draft
 
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That why it was good to get 4 top 31 Picks in last year Draft as we Finally bring in some Highly Rated Youngsters instead of Trading for a Mature Star then getting Prospects late int the Draft and Rookie Draft
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We got 5 in the top 31 didn't we?
 
magpie_marty said:
Big wraps also on Buckleys Kids and also Eddies,future champions.
Reminds me of my high school years and Ron Richards grand son attended,
Great guy very funny and the splinting image of Lou.
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Did I miss Eddie playing 100 games for us?

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Jen2310 said:
Yeah, I think his youngest is either 19 or 20.
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He was talking about him doing year 12 last year, so he’s 18 at a minimum. Neither of them are/were looking to become footballers though.
 
Apex36 said:
He was talking about him doing year 12 last year, so he’s 18 at a minimum. Neither of them are/were looking to become footballers though.
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One of them was on neighbours. Not sure if thats the same one that travelled to QLD with him? Seems to be going into business
 
Apex36 said:
He was talking about him doing year 12 last year, so he’s 18 at a minimum. Neither of them are/were looking to become footballers though.
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Yes - the youngest Xander? did year 12 at Melb Grammar in 2020. Played first X1 cricket for them. Not sure about footy ability.
 
manicpie said:
If Nick has 43 possessions and kicks 3 goals in his first reserves match then I might agree. If he can go in the midfield
and dominate for years then go forward and kick 99 goals in a season then I might agree. You see where I'm going with this?
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Did Peter do that?
 

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Robroy22 said:
97 goals for Daics I believe but he probably got jipped a few in that year so yeah....
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I was at Vic Park when he played his first reserves game, we all went home with our jaws scraping along the ground after what we just witnessed
 
manicpie said:
If Nick has 43 possessions and kicks 3 goals in his first reserves match then I might agree. If he can go in the midfield
and dominate for years then go forward and kick 99 goals in a season then I might agree. You see where I'm going with this?
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manicpie said:
I was at Vic Park when he played his first reserves game, we all went home with our jaws scraping along the ground after what we just witnessed
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Peter Daicos played his first Reserves game in 1978. From what I can see, that game almost certainly was against Geelong in Rd. 12, and would have been at Waverley Park, as that's where the senior teams played. At the very least it's the first time his name appears in the best players or among the goalkickers for the Reserves. He was named in the U19's best players in the four games leading up to the Geelong game, so it adds up that he would have been promoted after that. He was named best player for Collingwood against the Cats, but failed to score a goal:
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A check of the Football Record from 1978 shows he kicked 4 goals in total in the Reserves that year, with never any more than 1 goal in a game.

So perhaps this is the game you are thinking of? It was in the opening round of 1979, and would have been played at Victoria Park, prior to the seniors game. Daicos kicked 3 goals, and was named best player:
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His senior debut came just three weeks later in Rd. 4.

Peter Daicos’ first match | Collingwood Forever (collingwoodfc.com.au)
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