No passion, No pride, no NOTHING

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Top post. You should blog on the subject.

Thanks but I would like to keep my blogging role

I was quite critical last week and this week's will be a challenge to write...

What gets me as well is I don't understand how the players can be happy with themselves and continue to produce the same sort of non-effort so often. Sure it's partially the coach's job to get them mentally prepared for a game but they have to take responsibility to some extent for their pathetic efforts.

This is why we will not improve as a team until Neil Craig is gone and gone ASAP.

He is stubborn and will not change his mind or style of football so he doesn't look bad. We need a fresh POV and a new person sending the message who is willing to get back to basic one on one football so the younger guys can learn how to play football. Not this zoning crap, flooding or forward presure. Just football.

He is trying to bring back the Crow Bots.

I thought we were past this in 2009 but after hearing Andy Otten on ABC after the game last night my thoughts have changed.

In a nutshell he said the team would persist with executing their plan, even when opposition are on top, because they believe it is a winning plan. It's almost as if the players have taken on Craig's stubbornness.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

vB has been pretty good and last night at least he fought the game out unlike some of his mates, but man he just fumbled everything.

Must run in the family. I'm watching the Freo V Kangas game.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

I thought we were past this in 2009 but after hearing Andy Otten on ABC after the game last night my thoughts have changed.

In a nutshell he said the team would persist with executing their plan, even when opposition are on top, because they believe it is a winning plan. It's almost as if the players have taken on Craig's stubbornness.

Na, simply following the party line.

Get a new coach and the new party line will be followed.

 

[Crow-mo]

Thanks but I would like to keep my blogging role

I was quite critical last week and this week's will be a challenge to write...

What gets me as well is I don't understand how the players can be happy with themselves and continue to produce the same sort of non-effort so often. Sure it's partially the coach's job to get them mentally prepared for a game but they have to take responsibility to some extent for their pathetic efforts.



I thought we were past this in 2009 but after hearing Andy Otten on ABC after the game last night my thoughts have changed.

In a nutshell he said the team would persist with executing their plan, even when opposition are on top, because they believe it is a winning plan. It's almost as if the players have taken on Craig's stubbornness.

CG,

Obviously you shouldn't do anything silly, no need to cut your nose off etc.

but I do think its instructive that when the club starts losing people like you, maybe we need to accept that we're at the tipping point.

 

[ringo200]

it wasn't goodwin's leadership we missed, it was goodwin the player

He had another year in him too, even if he would've likely missed some games throughout the year.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Na, simply following the party line.

Get a new coach and the new party line will be followed.

Are you sure about that? Remember when his coaching stint is finally over he becomes mentor so will anything actually change?

 

[The Karma Bus]

Are you sure about that, remember when his coaching stint is finally over he becomes mentor So will anything actually change?

It's not set up for him to be mentor i thought?

Please don't let it be so..

Thought it was more for him to stay in some other manner..

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Are you sure about that? Remember when his coaching stint is finally over he becomes mentor so will anything actually change?

I still don't understand why he's being kept around. It's not like he is sheedy or Matthews with premierships or legendary status around the club. He has coached for 7 years with zero to show from it.

If anyone other than Goodwin or Bickley is appointed as the next senior coach, I can not see that person wnting the ex coach to hang around so he can stab that person in the back like he did with Ayres.

If we lose to Carlton, St Kilda and then Melb....the crowd number for the GC game may be plumett under the 20,000 figure and I think if we lose that...good buy Neil.

 

[ringo200]

I still don't understand why he's being kept around. It's not like he is sheedy or Matthews with premierships or legendary status around the club. He has coached for 7 years with zero to show from it.

If anyone other than Goodwin or Bickley is appointed as the next senior coach, I can not see that person wnting the ex coach to hang around so he can stab that person in the back like he did with Ayres.

If we lose to Carlton, St Kilda and then Melb....the crowd number for the GC game may be plumett under the 20,000 figure and I think if we lose that...good buy Neil.

There is about a 0% chance that a club would re-hire a coach that it had already sacked. If Craig is the one that walks the chances are about the same that he will coach the Crows again. Simply not going to happen.

The concern with Craig for me is all of the positive traits that were hallmarks of Neil Craig sides in 05/06 seem to have disappeared over the last two years. I wonder if perhaps some of those traits were remnants of the Ayres era.

 

[Crow-mo]

There is about a 0% chance that a club would re-hire a coach that it had already sacked. If Craig is the one that walks the chances are about the same that he will coach the Crows again. Simply not going to happen.

The concern with Craig for me is all of the positive traits that were hallmarks of Neil Craig sides in 05/06 seem to have disappeared over the last two years. I wonder if perhaps some of those traits were remnants of the Ayres era.

of course they were remnants of the ayres era.

we were contenders already, had a terrible injury run (the entire forward line out injured) and then in 2005 had the best injury outcome we've ever had.

he took an existing mature team, got plenty of injury luck, a couple of new coaching ideas and the general freshening effect of a change to get some good early results.

the real point though is that like Ross lyon he came in with one idea, and as that has lost currency and the side he inherited has fallen away over time so has results.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

There is about a 0% chance that a club would re-hire a coach that it had already sacked. If Craig is the one that walks the chances are about the same that he will coach the Crows again. Simply not going to happen.

Yeah, i guess you're right

The concern with Craig for me is all of the positive traits that were hallmarks of Neil Craig sides in 05/06 seem to have disappeared over the last two years. I wonder if perhaps some of those traits were remnants of the Ayres era.

More like a lot more Blight inflence in the player development.

I don't care what other say, Neil Craig is not a development coach. He can not develop young, inexperienced players or teams. I'm yet to see if or to be convinced.

He can coach senior players (100 games plus) who already understand the game and what they need to do, but he can not bring a kid on from 0 games.

He is not the man to take us forward.

 

[weeman09]

neil craigs game plan is dead! the game in general has past it i must admit .. we need to make a change not sure who... but like essenden they wanted their man and they got him (Bomber Thompson) . Mick Malthouse would be nice!

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

If things continue to go bad I'm sure Neil and the club will get together to come up with some form of exit strategy. Eg that Mark Bickley slowly assumes more of the head coaching tasks as Neil slides into a football director's role. We'll give Doc Clarke more responsibility and bring Rhett Biglands in as ruck coach.

Then the dynasty can continue.

 

[The Karma Bus]

If things continue to go bad I'm sure Neil and the club will get together to come up with some form of exit strategy. Eg that Mark Bickley slowly assumes more of the head coaching tasks as Neil slides into a football director's role. We'll give Doc Clarke more responsibility and bring Rhett Biglands in as ruck coach.

Then the dynasty can continue.

Perrie or Ingerson as goalkicking coach would be another good appointment..

 

[SugarShane]

If we lose to Carlton, St Kilda and then Melb....the crowd number for the GC game may be plumett under the 20,000 figure and I think if we lose that...good buy Neil.

If only 20K show up then we will lose. Aren't you aware that if we don't get 50K to a game we can't possibly win and the blame then lies on the supporters? It's true. There was a whole thread on it and everything.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

that's a cop out, you are claiming that succession planning is impossible?

no it isn't.

we had known for years that they needed to be replaced, the only surprised was how long they lasted.

we didn't trade for players or picks, promote youth, do anything really

Do you honestly think that replacing a champion player or 2 a year earlier and putting 10-15 games more into another youngster would make much difference at all? The young guys probably learned just as much from the 3 champs from training and having them around the club as they would from playing AFL

 

[Crow-mo]

Do you honestly think that replacing a champion player or 2 a year earlier and putting 10-15 games more into another youngster would make much difference at all? The young guys probably learned just as much from the 3 champs from training and having them around the club as they would from playing AFL

its always the same ones...

 

[cmndstab]

If anyone other than Goodwin or Bickley is appointed as the next senior coach, I can not see that person wnting the ex coach to hang around so he can stab that person in the back like he did with Ayres.

Is there even the scantest evidence that he stabbed Ayres in the back?

 

[taylor_walker_13]

If things continue to go bad I'm sure Neil and the club will get together to come up with some form of exit strategy. Eg that Mark Bickley slowly assumes more of the head coaching tasks as Neil slides into a football director's role. We'll give Doc Clarke more responsibility and bring Rhett Biglands in as ruck coach.

Then the boys club can continue.

Edited for accuracy