No Priority Picks in 2012.

[Hank93]

Article on AFL website saying no Priority picks will be handed out this year. Extremely unlikely in 2013 also.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141412/default.aspx

Under the new system, the AFL commission has the power to award priority picks to struggling teams at its discretion, but the League has confirmed none of its clubs would qualify for such a pick in the first year of the new scheme's operation.

"The new system can't apply after one year," AFL spokesman Patrick Keane told AFL.com.au.

"The slate was wiped clean when the commission decision was announced in February and special assistance can't apply after one poor season."

Given the new system will only be in its second year of existence in 2013, it's unlikely that any club will qualify for a priority pick at the end of next season given the emphasis on youth and high draft picks in the formula.

"The clubs that came in during the expansion period, due to the multiple picks that they've had at the start of the draft, won't qualify," Keane said.

"If you have a large group of players in their late teens, early twenties, who are high draft picks, then you're not going to qualify for a priority pick simply because they're still developing."

By that criteria even if Melbourne finishes down near the bottom of the ladder it will be unlikely to qualify given the Demons' relative youth and the presence of several high draft picks on its list.

 

[stewie griffen]

So the new system cant apply after one year.... or two years.

And you didn't think of this until now? Bunch of muppets

Edit - according to the linked article this applies to only Gold Coast?

GOLD Coast won't receive an extra pick in the first round of this year's NAB AFL Draft even if the Suns fail to register a win in their second AFL season.​

 

[philthy05]

since the article is talking about the gold coast and it appears the quote ,"The new system can't apply after one year," AFL spokesman Patrick Keane told AFL.com.au. was in reference to the gold coast i would assume what they mean is that the system cant apply to them after one season in the comp they then are not eligible to be judged and awarded on the year after that.

hard to know exactly though as it isnt specific enough.

if they have ruled out any clubs getting priority picks in the next couple of seasons then that is yet another huge **** up by the same administration. why you have to judge a club from years after you change the rules after already changing the rules before and already denying clubs priority thanks to the expan teams coming in is beyond me. i mean, if port are shit this year, were shit last year, and shit the year before how many years do you need to see before they get the same help that some vic teams got at the drop of a hat??

i should just reference that when i talk about teams getting priority picks in the future i would advocate a pp is either

a) a pick after all non-finalists teams have picked. this would be a pick from 11-14 depending on compo picks.

or

b) a pick after the bottom 4 teams have had their selection.

i would prefer option a) as option b) does have the incentive for teams to finish 4th from bottom rather than 5th from bottom to avoid being after those priority picks. option a) offers an incentive for teams to finish 9th and be before priority picks that no team would see as worth missing the 8 and finals football for. only one option to be available, offering different level picks for different finishes offers an incentive to finish poorer which we want to avoid.

ffs sake afl its not rocket science. i have no degree and no administration background, yet using logic i can work out a simple solution to help teams while avoiding giving incentives to tank. how has it eluded your team of 6 figure salaried boffins for over a decade?

 

[Hank93]

So the new system cant apply after one year.... or two years.

And you didn't think of this until now? Bunch of muppets

Edit - according to the linked article this applies to only Gold Coast?

GOLD Coast won't receive an extra pick in the first round of this year's NAB AFL Draft even if the Suns fail to register a win in their second AFL season.​

Under the new system, the AFL commission has the power to award priority picks to struggling teams at its discretion, but the League has confirmed none of its clubs would qualify for such a pick in the first year of the new scheme's operation.

"The new system can't apply after one year," AFL spokesman Patrick Keane told AFL.com.au.
"The slate was wiped clean when the commission decision was announced in February and special assistance can't apply after one poor season."


This part of the article makes no mention of GC, and explains the system won't apply in its first year.

 

[stewie griffen]

Under the new system, the AFL commission has the power to award priority picks to struggling teams at its discretion, but the League has confirmed none of its clubs would qualify for such a pick in the first year of the new scheme's operation.

"The new system can't apply after one year," AFL spokesman Patrick Keane told AFL.com.au.
"The slate was wiped clean when the commission decision was announced in February and special assistance can't apply after one poor season."


This part of the article makes no mention of GC, and explains the system won't apply in its first year.

Bizarrely the article is titled 'No draft bonus for Suns'.

It does read that no clubs are eligible tho.... flipping AFL, tweeted Keane to clarify it, not holdiong my breath tho

 

[philthy05]

could these ****s be any dumber? or are they just out and out cheats??

how can they hand out pick 1's like candy to vic teams for years and call emergency meetings when the vic teams are struggling then as soon as they get up off the bottom and the few non-vic teams slide they dust their hands of the whole thing and stick their heads in the sand while people have come out and said tanking did happen and say it never did? they have effectively stopped any chance of anyone getting a pp for years now. **** you cheats.

should it be any surprise that the only teams that have received a real priority pick are carlton, collingwood, hawthorn, st kilda, melb, western bulldogs and richmond? anyone see a pattern here?

i cant be frakked looking at the number but it must be something like 10 priority picks there to melb clubs, and a big fat goose egg to non-vic clubs. is that coincidence? nope. **** **** ****

 

[Mayestro]

Yeah, it's the inconsistency that grates. I've no issue with brisbane not getting one if we've got 6-8 wins this year, but to 'wipe the slate clean' with Port who are struggling just as much as any of the previous recipients is just out of order. If they were to truly wipe the slate clean then surely Melbourne shouldn't receive 2 first rounders after obviously tanking for Scully.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

As per usual from the AFL none of this makes any sense. So they have only just now figured out in July that no picks can be awarded because the slate was wiped clean in February? Why not just announce that in February then? And why should the slate be wiped clean? If Port has been poor for the last two seasons and are again this year and next why wouldn't they qualify for at least a end of round 1 PP?

It also indicates the new formula is based on age of list, number of high draft picks etc? Well who are the teams likely to have young lists with a bunch of high draft picks on them? It's going to be the sides down the bottom who struggle to be competitive for a few years in a row. If these teams don't qualify for PP's which teams will? It all seems quite stupid and the AFL should really just scrap the PP concept altogether or just make them end of first round or something. The lack of transparency, subjectivity and seemingly ridiculous tests to meet indicates it is a farce that is basically open to favouritism and corruption.

 

[stewie griffen]

The AFL tweeted the article as:

AFL ‏@AFL
.@GoldCoastFC will not receive an extra first round draft pick this year, under the new priority pick system: http://afl.to/SguyZC

which is why I originally read it as just the GC, who knows with the AFL tho

 

[Ghost of Grinter]

The Bullies should get an end of first round pick at least for the AFL
under valuing Ward when they dished on the compo payment last year.

Ward is killing it for the GWS, easily their best player and the Bullies have
been short changed severely by his loss.

 

[Hank93]

Its almost like Roby's power rankings in regards to criteria and data.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

What's the new system?

 

[bombermick]

It's obvious GC, GWS or Melbourne don't deserve one, as all have loaded up on first round picks. However, Port should at least be considered, as they haven't been able to re-load - due to being shit at exactly the wrong time.

 

[year of the roo]

Ummmm this is excellent news. Surprised no one has said this yet.

Boo hoo for Port.

 

[Suma Magic]

Great news.

GC and GWS would have planned to get a #1 PP pick in their second year, then try to shoot up the ladder in year 3.

I reckon they would be secretly filthy.

 

[jjami15]

Should just scrap it entirely. Can't wait for all the concession picks to be finished as well. Both systems just compromise the draft in my opinion. Understand the logic in paying teams concessions if they lose players to GC and GWS but this mini draft garbage robs teams for the opportunity to draft kids in who are elite. Understand it is only two players missing from the draft that can be chosen but the knock effect is that the lower teams are missing out on a player who might just be that better if they were a pick 8 instead of a 6. Just would like it to go back to normal and without priority picks. Some ownership has to be placed on football clubs and the management of their playing lists.

 

[philthy05]

did you not read my post suggesting priority picks should be after non-finalists picks. therefore not hurting their chances at getting a good prospect?

offers poor teams a chance to get a good player with a pick in the teens without stripping any top ten picks away.

 

[Delids]

So they r starting fresh, look at the last 32 years and tigers have only made finals twice.
This system will b only favoured to GWS or GC

 

[ausbacker]

If Port Adelaide doesn't improve their win loss ledger considerably by the end of the season it would be wise on the AFL's behalf to help kick start their rejuvenation with a priority pick.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

could these ****s be any dumber? or are they just out and out cheats??

how can they hand out pick 1's like candy to vic teams for years and call emergency meetings when the vic teams are struggling then as soon as they get up off the bottom and the few non-vic teams slide they dust their hands of the whole thing and stick their heads in the sand while people have come out and said tanking did happen and say it never did? they have effectively stopped any chance of anyone getting a pp for years now. **** you cheats.

should it be any surprise that the only teams that have received a real priority pick are carlton, collingwood, hawthorn, st kilda, melb, western bulldogs and richmond? anyone see a pattern here?

i cant be frakked looking at the number but it must be something like 10 priority picks there to melb clubs, and a big fat goose egg to non-vic clubs. is that coincidence? nope. **** **** ****

Wrong! How about West Coast getting I think Darling as a priority draft pick in what 2010. Also, Brisbane and Sydney have a bigger salary cap, and can have first dibs at anyone in their state,who they can keep as rookies. I think Adelaide and PA would have similar concessions so stop winging, you were handed a premiership along with all the interstate clubs when you entered our competition with your draft concessions. Small traditional clubs like the Bulldogs (being a historic club, Port Adelaide would relate to this) have suffered because of those draft picks (remember 1997 and 1998) and the newer franchise teams.

The only team that stuffed that up was Freo who drafted away or their first round draft picks to Hawthorn and Essendon who both got premierships courtesy of Freos inept list management.

 

[philthy05]

Wrong! How about West Coast getting I think Darling as a priority draft pick in what 2010. Also, Brisbane and Sydney have a bigger salary cap, and can have first dibs at anyone in their state,who they can keep as rookies. I think Adelaide and PA would have similar concessions so stop winging, you were handed a premiership along with all the interstate clubs when you entered our competition with your draft concessions. Small traditional clubs like the Bulldogs (being a historic club, Port Adelaide would relate to this) have suffered because of those draft picks (remember 1997 and 1998) and the newer franchise teams.

The only team that stuffed that up was Freo who drafted away or their first round draft picks to Hawthorn and Essendon who both got premierships courtesy of Freos inept list management.

can you read? or are you capable but too lazy?

when ive been talking about the pick 1's or pre- first round pp's all thread long , then again in the post, then say only vic teams have had real pp's it should be obvious to any half brain that im not putting pick 27 in the same category as a pick 1 2 or 3. do you put pick 27 in the same category as pick 1 2 or 3??

yes sydney has a bigger sal cap. bris did but im not sure if they still do now?

adelaide and port adelaide do not have extra sal cap concessions. you are wrong there.

syd and bris have recently introduced academies. adelaide and port adelaide do not. again, you are wrong.

as for ports draft concessions we were given access to 4 players from rival teams and zone selections. the huge bulk of our squad came from the sanfl, hardly worth you crying over.

is any of your post correct or relevant to this discussion?

how embarrassing for you.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

can you read? or are you capable but too lazy?

when ive been talking about the pick 1's or pre- first round pp's all thread long , then again in the post, then say only vic teams have had real pp's it should be obvious to any half brain that im not putting pick 27 in the same category as a pick 1 2 or 3. do you put pick 27 in the same category as pick 1 2 or 3??

yes sydney has a bigger sal cap. bris did but im not sure if they still do now?

adelaide and port adelaide do not have extra sal cap concessions. you are wrong there.

syd and bris have recently introduced academies. adelaide and port adelaide do not. again, you are wrong.

as for ports draft concessions we were given access to 4 players from rival teams and zone selections. the huge bulk of our squad came from the sanfl, hardly worth you crying over.

is any of your post correct or relevant to this discussion?

how embarrassing for you.

Sorry but your post is unintelligible, with no punctuation and a lot rambling, so I will just leave you to feel sorry for yourself, as I don't consider this a worthy discussion.

 

[GreatBradScott]

Why is everything the fault of Victorians when comes to interstate supporters? What the **** did we do?

 

[Hank93]

Why is everything the fault of Victorians when comes to interstate supporters? What the **** did we do?

In this situation, its a bit ridiculous.

Its not the AFLs fault that Essendon, Collingwood, Carlton, Hawthorn and StK were shithouse during the PP era. Port, WCE, Syd and BL were all awesome during 2001-2006. Adelaide also solid.

 

[doggies ftw]

Wow complaining that the slate has been wiped clean? They brought in a new system so obviously the slate has to be wiped clean...

The PP should be scrapped altogether, if a team is that shit it is a fault of their own to let the list get that way, they should not get an advantage over other teams.